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Conservatives defend Mike Pence not interacting with women cause they might have sex
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Does this mean I should be worried about going to conventions with scantily clad cosplayers, after all I might just cheat on my girlfriend!
Fucking weirdos.
Like, whatever, he doesn't eat with females. Not a huge deal on it's own. It's the weird way conservatives are trying to say this is deserving of praise.
Fucking weirdos.
Like, whatever, he doesn't eat with females. Not a huge deal on it's own. It's the weird way conservatives are trying to say this is deserving of praise.
Lol not wanting to share a room with a work colleague isn't the same as generally not interacting with women and that has everything to do with privacy and nothing to do with sex.
And if poor Mike Pence wanted to not be judged based on what he does with his relationships, maybe he should stop wishing torture on gay people for what they do with theirs
This reminds of me that "hillbilly-pop" (I don't know what to call that bullshit) song about that guy saying he shouldn't drink anymore because then he'll cheat on his girl.
"Oh no, honey, I'm good
I could have another but I probably should not
I got somebody at home and if I stay I might not leave alone"
I mean as a guy, I'm kind of offended. Have some self control.
"Oh no, honey, I'm good
I could have another but I probably should not
I got somebody at home and if I stay I might not leave alone"
I mean as a guy, I'm kind of offended. Have some self control.
Is going to a one on one business dinner a requirement for professional treatment? I'm not saying it's wrong to do at all, but this is a guideline that he and his wife have come up with inside of their relationship. Its not like he's proposing legislation that will make this a law.
As a woman, it's super irritating that men who think like this seem to see all woman as temptresses dangling potential flings and sexual encounters in front of them like some sort of carrot. Never mind all the hard work and effort we put into our jobs and relationships that we already have. All we really want to do is ensnare these poor married men in our clutches for......who knows. Most women I know want nothing to do with married peen. Is it seriously that hard for men to casually dine or chat with a woman without wanting to bone her? Dear god.
NYCmetsfan
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He's the VP. Other legislators hold this view.
They make laws about women's bodies and sexual harassment/discrimination
His personal views are a problem since they clearly influence his public policy and are based on his own inability to not control himself
lucablight
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They aren't the same thing but I'm just making the point that a persons gender can influence the way you behave with someone. If I was going on a trip with a work colleague I would potentially have no issue with sharing a room with a male colleague but I wouldn't share it with a female worker. It doesn't mean I wouldn't be able to control myself and want to sleep with her it just comes down to boundaries at the end of the day.
Well when your origin story involves the "weaker" sex giving in to temptation and then corrupting her male counterpart, it makes sense that every other facet of life gets warped by that sort of thinking.
Puck Beaverton
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All women are femme fatales.
ALL
ALL
lucablight
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Lol not wanting to share a room with a work colleague isn't the same as generally not interacting with women and that has everything to do with privacy and nothing to do with sex.
And if poor Mike Pence wanted to not be judged based on what he does with his relationships, maybe he should stop wishing torture on gay people for what they do with theirs
Isn't the article just saying he wouldn't have dinner with another female if they were alone? So if there was another person there then he would go ahead with it?
benicillin
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There is so much to unpack here I don't even know where to start. It's crazy, and one of the better examples of how many conservatives and religious folks dehumanize women.
Well when the bill is proposed to ban men and women eating together let's discuss it.
Yes, and you don't see that as a problem?
It's saying, look, I can't see you as anything other than a sexual temptation unless another person is here with us.
It's fucked up.
I'm not sure about the origins of your tag but it doesn't really inspire confidence.
NinjaCoachZ
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Women are sirens and men have absolutely no control over or responsibility for their own actions.
NYCmetsfan
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Do you think women working under these men are afforded a fair shot, do you think this informs his (pences) vote on abortion today?
aGuyInaBearSuit
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Ten bucks says these dudes who say they can't be trusted to be alone with women also vehemently deny the existence of rape culture.
Chainsawkitten
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If it's the way you treat male business partners then yes.
Netherscourge
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So he's afraid to go to dinner with a woman other than his wife because... unsolicited sex might be offered?
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Right, the only way this isn't completely sexist is if Pence literally doesn't have 1:1 meetings with anyone, ever.
bennywhatever
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I honestly understand him doing this. It's not a religious thing; it's a conservative thing. There are a ton of people I know this same way and I'm one of them - It's my illusion of giving respect to my wife. My rules are a little different; for instance, if my boss (female) wanted to have a 1 on 1 lunch, it's fine. But if an old female friend of mine wanted to have lunch or dinner, I'd ask for another person join us. I don't know why; it just feel like that's the way it should be. Has nothing to do with sex at all, it just feels like that's the proper way to respect my wife.
lucablight
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I think calling it "fucked up" is a bit extreme. He obviously doesn't want to put himself in a certain situation out of respect for his values. He isn't hurting anyone in this case so I think the outrage is a bit over the top. What's an example of a scenario where he can't get something done unless it's over a one on one dinner with another female?
If the one person needs a chaperone to keep honest or the other person needs one for trust I feel like the respect is already gone.
Sorcerer
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Technically most religions recognize that you are flawed scum. Its your job to be a better person.
Pence if pretty much falling in line here..
Something that I've noticed lately is that people aren't really equipped to deal with outside attraction when they're in a relationship. I don't get it. It's normal, it happens, and it doesn't have to lead to anything. Get over it.
To me limiting the proportion of people you could be close friends with like that is ridiculous.
lucablight
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I wouldn't categorise myself as a conservative but I can't agree with your statement. If you're in a relationship I don't see why you would want to be spending leisure time alone with a person of the opposite gender. It just seems inappropriate to me. Like I said people have their own boundaries.
How exactly is that showing respect to your wife ?
If my girlfriend ever told me she doesn't want to interact with people one on one out of "respect" for me I would seriously wonder about the state of our relationship. (And if she ever told me to stop I would show her the door immediately)
Yep.
Because... they're friends and you enjoy their company ? what a bizarre line of thinking.
Nah, son.
So by your logic, since I'm bisexual and in a relationship, me being spending leisure time with anyone else one-on-one seems inappropriate?
Fallout-NL
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To me limiting the proportion of people you could be close friends with like that is ridiculous.
Yeah, fair enough man, like I said, I'm not judging.
Not my fault the ice cream was covered in delicious chocolate sprinkles!
And these same people are the ones attacking Muslims and ranting about Shariah law
So many weird things about this. It assumes if you're straight you can't have a good platonic friend of the opposite gender. And what if you're somewhere else along the sexuality spectrum, no single dinners with anyone?
It wouldn't surprise me, they can't all be straight. I've always suspected some people who are that blinkered, ignorant and hateful usually have skeletons in the closet, whether it be gay, extreme kinks or illegal stuff.
biggersmaller
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I'm married. Have had lunch / dinner with women. However, if I were politician I wouldn't be alone with a woman. Accusations alone (even if not made by her) would be a hastle.
For the record, Pence is an idiot.
For the record, Pence is an idiot.
autumnleaf
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You don't have friends of the opposite gender?
benicillin
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Glad you brought this up because I've seen it mentioned a ton of times. This whole phenomena completely ignores how it makes absolutely no sense if you're bi, gay or lesbian. You can apparently only spend time with people if you aren't attracted to that entire group of people.
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