Astral Dog
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Ugly textures on Mario Kart 8? i mean, of course there are some low res textures on a few parts, its the Wii U and it runs at 60 fps after all, but it seems to me they did a good job with textures and effects overall
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Consoles screenshots thread (PS4/Xbone/WiiU) [Up: Thread rules in OP]
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Ugly textures on Mario Kart 8? i mean, of course there are some low res textures on a few parts, its the Wii U and it runs at 60 fps after all, but it seems to me they did a good job with textures and effects overall
thedarknight87
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Deferred rendering is positively an ancient technique tracing its origin to most mobile GPUs, where it is used to provide energy efficient graphics processing. Deferred rendering is just a way to allow more dynamic lights, having deferred rendering doesn't make a game better looking by default. None of the nice looking WiiU games (even sub-30fps WWHD) comes close to the games I listed. Let's see whether ZeldaU can provide better visuals than the best of PS3/360.
While games do look better in motion, judging from the screenshots here, there will be a ton of pixel crawl and shimmering in MK8.
freefornow
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DKCTF.
I know that this is not the thread to discuss, but the music in that level is awesome!
Does the game have any AA.
DirgeExtinction
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Dang, those MK8 screens look rough.
What's going on with that section? It's like a block was added(or edited).
What's going on with that section? It's like a block was added(or edited).
Nope(going by these screens).
prag16
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It's not like we have to wait to find out; there's a ton of direct feed footage out there (even if most if it's 30fps because youtube).
Not saying you personally expressed this sentiment, but the idea that some jaggies in the screens retroactively makes the videos less appealing is sort of absurd. Kind of like how Digital Foundry routinely seems to retroactively make various games less appealing.
And no, not all games look better in motion. Performance/animations/etc matter. A lot.
I couldn't pass up commenting on this one:
If a game "looks beautiful in motion" that means it's not an "ugly game". Come on.
"Playing the game" is playing the game... and that happens in motion. "Looking at screenshots (often zoomed to way more than 100% in order to nitpick)" isn't playing the game.
Yes, this is a screenshots thread, so zooming in past 100% marveling (or not marveling) at the IQ is what we're all doing, but when we start saying things like "this game looks awesome when i'm playing it, but this topic proves it's a fraud and that it's actually ugly" that's a little far.
thedarknight87
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Dang, those MK8 screens look rough.
What's going on with that section? It's like a block was added(or edited).
This is precisely what I meant by unphysical lighting. There is a square green box of glow coming from that turtle shell. The motion blur is overdone and not bokeh but a cheaper technique. I thought the WiiU is a gen8/gen4(if you like EA's nomenclature) console, Deferred Rendering is a last gen technique (extensively used on PS3/360), this gen is all about realistic materials, physical shaders, better AA, high quality DoF, awesome particle effects, etc (Deferred rendering is a given, unless forward rendering suits the game better eg. Forza, Killzone Mercenary). Deferred Rendering does not make an ugly game look good.
thedarknight87
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I am not zooming past 100%, I am viewing native 1280x720 image on my 15" 1366x768 laptop screen. Seeing it on a 32" television (again in native 1280x720 res (letterboxed) on a 1366x768 last gen Sharp TV) made me realize how gross and ugly this game looks on a fixed pixel display. Maybe you have a CRT or Plasma, in which case I envy you, but this game looks horrendous in stills (it gives W101 a run for its money in the horrible aliasing department) on fixed pixel displays.
I'll never understand this.
"Its beautiful, but since its not technically impressive, i dont like it."
Oops forgot to embed this couple of screenshots, my first ones so dont kill me guys.
It's beautiful because it's beautiful.
prag16
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Sidestepping the entire point, and locking in on one aspect (the zooming past 100% thing) which wasn't even really critical to the argument. Okay. I'll strip it down for you:
If a game "looks beautiful in motion" that means it's not an "ugly game".
"Playing the game" is playing the game... and that happens in motion. "Looking at screenshots" isn't playing the game. Therefore the latter can't logically supercede the former in terms of judgement of ugliness of the game overall.
playingwithfire
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I don't care if MK8 is ugly, just keep the screenshots coming please. It's making the wait till the 30th easier to bear
Trevelyan9999
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To be fair, the footage we've seen is NOT indicative of how it will look on our TV sets and the direct feed screenshots are closer to achieving that look. Other methods of streaming video that we've seen (as far as I'm aware, we don't have any direct-feed MK8 videos that are minimally compressed) are far too compressed and low bitrate.
thedarknight87
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I would like to know what you think of Resistance 3 and all CoDs on PS3 (all of these are sub-720p games that looked good in motion). In motion this game barely looks better than modnation racers/sonic racing/lbp karting. This is a gen 8/gen 4 console pardon me for expecting better IQ, this game is ugly period (I do not know why I am arguing this anyway. Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder, if you find this jagged mess with unphysical lighting and DoF beautiful, more power to you. I have higher expectations from gen 8 /gen 4 games)
thedarknight87
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From the OP: 5. Critique and be opinionated about games/shots, but don't threadshit. So I am guessing that criticizing screenshots and defending criticism is allowed. But maybe I did not read it right or does my criticism of 'ugly, no AA, weird DoF with green box lighting around turtle shell' MK8 hurt your sentiments? If it is the latter then I apologize for hurting your feelings.
Interceptor
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"MK8 is rough and ugly" is the new hip thing to say for the cool kids. ^^
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I see absolutely no direction to the debate going on, so lets stop it in favour of posting more screenshots.
Tip: If somebody says they think a game looks ugly for technical and/or artistic reasons, you do not need to jump to the game's defence as to why it's totally not ugly and said person is wrong because reasons. And if someone disagrees and thinks a game actually looks really great despite aliasing and resolution and textures or whatever complaints, you don't need to spend several posts arguing your taste.
Tip: If somebody says they think a game looks ugly for technical and/or artistic reasons, you do not need to jump to the game's defence as to why it's totally not ugly and said person is wrong because reasons. And if someone disagrees and thinks a game actually looks really great despite aliasing and resolution and textures or whatever complaints, you don't need to spend several posts arguing your taste.
Kaneda Shotaro
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This one is worthy of a PS3 launch.
Not to derail but what area/which city is this?? I didn't know there was any beach type area in the game.
Grinchy
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That's in Costa Del Sol, which is somewhere in the Limsa Lominsa area. I really like the area a lot. The clear light blue water is relaxing haha.
So nice!
Jimmyfenix
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Giant Crab
prag16
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It's not about hurting people's feelings. What compelled me to comment was the odd statement indicating that a game could simultaneously be "beautiful in motion" but in reality be ugly because screens.
But complaints are noted and correct; discussion of this to this extent isn't appropriate for this thread. I will gladly drop the matter at this point. No hard feelings.
Only when taken from the PS4, a capture card eliminates that entirely. Example I took from my capture card:
that looks real
Shin-Ra
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Lovely shadow quality. Mmm.That's in Costa Del Sol, which is somewhere in the Limsa Lominsa area. I really like the area a lot. The clear light blue water is relaxing haha.
So nice!
I'm guilty dragging out that debate as well and I apologize to the good folks in this thread and to thedarknight87 as well.
Here's some DK screens I took a while back but never posted
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This one looks damn good, games runs at 60fps as well correct?
That's in Costa Del Sol, which is somewhere in the Limsa Lominsa area. I really like the area a lot. The clear light blue water is relaxing haha.
So nice!
Game looks lovely, I would love to get into it but I fear I don't have the time to sink into an MMO these days. Perhaps if I have a lot of free time later in the year.
Grinchy
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I swore I'd never play an MMO again because I spent way too much time playing Everquest and FFXI. They were just such enormous time sinks and I was way too willing to sink my time in.
Luckily these newer MMOs, while they are still timesinks, are much more accessible than the old school ones. There have easy to follow quest lines, map indicators, ect. Grouping no longer involves sitting in the area you want to grind in for 45+ minutes shouting out that your are LFG or LFP. There's no more bullshit where you just waited all day for a group and the healer took one look at your gear and said you couldn't join.
I've been playing 14 for a few hours at a time every couple days or so. Without devoting a ton of time into it, I'm already level 42 (out of a max level of 50). So it requires much less time than any MMO I used to play. I'm starting to sound like a Square Enix shill so I'm going to back away slowly now lol...
Disorientator
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sportzhead
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More MLB 14 PS4
That actually sounds great! You've convinced me that this is a MMO that might suit me. I'll definitely put it on my "to purchase" list
Will likely be on PC though since I don't have a PS4 yet
Thanks again for the info
WeAreStarStuff
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Finally made it to Titan in FFXIV PS4 (absolutely incredible fight with amazing music
For some reason this shot reminds me of the original SSX on PS2.
StreetsAhead
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Trigger warning: Blurring Filter Applied
PsihoPerihelion
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Some random COD Ghosts screens
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