Controllers |OT| It's the Hall-Effect Life!

BeardSpike

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0. Introduction

The market has recently seen an explosion of high-quality game controllers from third-party, often unlicensed manufacturers based in China. These brands gained traction by innovating with technologies like Hall-Effect analog sticks and now release new models at an incredible rate. This has left many consumers feeling overwhelmed, as choosing the right option requires significant research. Furthermore, the rapid pace and fragmentation of discussions make it hard for community knowledge to accumulate.

Because this technology evolves almost weekly, a simple list of recommendations would quickly become outdated. Therefore, this guide will take a more durable approach: first, we will explain the key differences in the underlying tech, then provide buying tips and resources, and finally, present some current recommendations.

Thanks to Astray Astray and BennyBlanco BennyBlanco for their assistance in writing this OT's opening post.

1. Analog Stick Types

Since its (re)introduction with the Nintendo 64, analog sticks are easily the most important part of the modern controller experience. There are currently 3 commonly-used types of analog sticks (and 1 new one), just note that while the core differences between technologies remain consistent, there are differences in how each manufacturer implements and calibrates them, and thus, it's entirely possible to have a terrible-performing controller even if the underlying tech is "Good":
  • ALPS (Potentiometer-based) is The most common and cost-effective analog stick technology (and what console makers use even in their more premium SKUs like the Xbox Elite 2 or Dualsense Edge), ALPS sensors use physical wipers moving across resistive tracks to detect movement. While offering a familiar good feel and compact design, this style of using contacts leads to gradual wear and tear, making them susceptible to the dreaded "stick drift".
  • Hall Effect was originally used in the Sega Dreamcast controller and forgotten about for a long time, Hall effect technology utilizes magnets and contactless sensors to eliminate the physical friction found in ALPS sticks, thus significantly reducing wear and virtually eliminating stick drift caused by contact degradation. This makes for increased durability and consistent performance, though it could be susceptible to strong magnetic interference.
  • TMR (Tunnel Magnetoresistance) represent more of an evolution of the Hall Effect tech than a total revolution, TMR sensors detect changes in magnetic resistance within a magnetic tunnel junction for highly precise and sensitive positional data. This technology offers the highest precision so far (better than Hall Effect), excellent durability by preventing sensor wear-related drift, and lower power consumption than Hall-effect sticks.
  • Capacitive is The newest kid on the block. This technology works via sensing changes in electric capacitance, rendering it more resistant to magnetic interference, this method of sensing is also no-contact, granting similar no-drift guarantees as Hall-effect and TMR. Capacitive sticks also promise even greater resolution and lower power consumption than either. It remains to be seen if the sticks get as widely-adopted as Hall-effect or TMR, though there are a couple models in the wild already.

2. Button Types

For obvious reasons, buttons are the 1st and most important cornerstone in the controller experience (even predating analog sticks!), and right now there are three main technologies that exist for any button on a controller, including the D-Pad and shoulder buttons, and they will sound familiar to anyone who is into keyboards as it's essentially the same ideas in a different form factor:
  • Membrane Buttons are the regular, budget-friendly standard that's been used since at least the NES days. They work by pressing a flexible layer onto a circuit, giving a soft, "mushy" feel. They're reliable for casual use but aren't the most durable or responsive. These are also the quietest of the three, so you're probably gonna want to go with membrane if noise is a concern.
  • Mechanical Buttons elevate the experience with individual mechanical switches that rely on a physical contact for each button. This provides satisfying tactile feedback (a "click") and superior durability. They offer a more precise and consistent response, which makes them often preferred by the sweaty of us. Just note that they are noisy and you might bother a significant other if they're sitting right next to you.
  • Microswitch Buttons can also be used for shoulder buttons, most commonly in hair-trigger modes on the back triggers and for the shoulder bumpers, this type of button works (and sounds) exactly the same as you might find in your mouse's left and right click actuators.
  • Optical Buttons represent the cutting edge of mechanical switches. Instead of physical contact, they use a beam of light to register presses. This makes them incredibly durable, lightning-fast, and remarkably smooth since there's no physical wear and tear. They too are noisy compared to membrane switches.

3. Controller Connection Methods

Another important part of how a controller operates is how it connects to your system of choice, now what's important to mention here is just because a connection type is mentioned by your controller's spec sheet and your device is capable of it, that doesn't mean that you're guaranteed to have the controller working on your system, an example of this is some 8bitdo controllers not working on some mobile phones for example despite supporting Bluetooth. This is why we highly advise you to very carefully look over the spec sheet of a controller before buying it.

The other thing is just because a controller supports a predecessor device to the one you want to control, doesn't mean that your newer system will work with it (e.g. a controller supporting Switch 1 may not necessarily fully work on Switch 2 with all features intact!), so be very careful about reading those spec sheets and if necessary, consult some of the resources we will share later in this OP.

  • USB Cable is the most direct and reliable connection type. It offers virtually no input lag, charges the controller simultaneously, and requires no batteries. The main drawback is the physical tether, limiting movement and potentially creating cable clutter. With that said, it's probably the go-to for competitive gaming where every millisecond counts.
  • Bluetooth is the normie option for ultimate convenience and widespread wireless compatibility (this is what consoles use by the way), as it connects directly to devices with built-in Bluetooth (PCs, phones, consoles). While offering great freedom of movement, it generally has higher input lag than 2.4GHz or wired, making it less ideal for competitive gaming. It's best for casual play and cross-device use where responsiveness isn't critical. A notable exception so far is Gulikit's Hyperlink 2 Bluetooth technology which reaches pretty high polling rates and apparently has the lowest input lag on the market right now.
  • 2.4GHz Dongles are a connection type that offers a strong balance of wireless freedom and low latency. They use a dedicated USB dongle that creates a direct, optimized wireless link, resulting in very minimal lag, often comparable to wired. However, you need a free USB port for the dongle, and it's less universally compatible than Bluetooth. However, it typically boasts higher polling rates and lower latency than Bluetooth does.
  • NearLink is an up and coming connection protocol that was introduced by Huawei as a replacement for traditional connection protocols, it promises better latency and security. As you can probably predict, the predominant usage of Nearlink in gaming applications has been in Chinese controllers.

4. Other Controller Features

There are some controller models out there that boast even more features, these features are just way too many to mention here, but some examples are:

  • While the current situation on Switch 2 support is still developing, most, if not all of the Switch 1's suite of controller features are already supported by 3rd party controllers (such as Amiibo support or HD Rumble or most recently, wake-up functionality). Please note that any feature that is omitted on a spec sheet is likely absent.
  • Gyro aiming is another feature that's quickly becoming widespread as well on both Switch and PC. Though you should note that the quality can vary across units and configs.
  • Some controllers have come out with officially supported Steam Input.
  • Some controllers have Hair-Trigger Modes on the back-triggers that can be switched on or off, this can either be micro-switch-based (meaning the actuation method actually switches to a micro switch), or it can be software-based (meaning dampening is added with a shortening of the travel distance of the trigger, but no physical switch change on the inside). This feature tends to appear a lot in eSports-oriented "Pro" controllers, but is becoming more widespread in more mainstream third-party controllers, console manufacturers tend to lock this to their "pro" versions though.

5. Layout types

A long-argued-over aspect of controller design, all known game controllers today can be either Symmetric or Asymmetric, below is a brief comparison:
  • Symmetric Layout (e.g., PlayStation): Both analog sticks are parallel, usually at the bottom. Your thumbs rest in the same vertical position. Valued if you need easy access to the D-Pad (e.g. .
  • Asymmetric Layout (e.g., Xbox, Nintendo): The left analog stick and the D-pad are swapped. Your left thumb rests higher (on the stick) and your right thumb rests lower (on the face buttons), which some find more ergonomic for modern games.
NOTE: We won't be getting into which one is better than the other here. We can discuss layouts further in OT - but let's keep it civil here. Thank you.

6. Buying Tips

  • Know Your Needs First: What systems you're planning on using the controller with, how you plan to connect them, whether the layout is good for you or not, this will help you reduce waste of money on features you don't need, or having to replace controllers because you realized they don't have a feature you need. The same goes for things like polling rate etc, don't overpay to get 2000hz polling or hair triggers when you're essentially playing singleplayer games.
  • Don't Assume Specs: Any feature that is not explicitly mentioned should be assumed missing. Don't assume an aftermarket controller has TMR sticks or wakes up a Switch 2 or supports amiibos etc unless you are explicitly told that it does, and even then, sometimes you might have to consult a review to see if it works natively or if they hacked it in a less-optimal way.
  • Investigate Connectivity Closely: Don't assume because a controller has bluetooth that it will connect to your phone or your PC. Some manufacturers like 8bitdo are notorious for having Bluetooth that only works with iOS, or being touted as a wireless Xbox controller when said wireless functionality depends on the 2.4G dongle being connected.
  • Know Your Language Support: It's generally preferable to know in advance whether the instruction manuals or accompanying software supports a language you actually converse in. A lot of AliExpress sellers will sell you China-exclusive SKUs or China-specific SKUs with no English support. This is not an insurmountable problem with the rise of machine learning etc, but just be mindful of it. Good reviewers will tell you about this.
  • Buy from Trusted Vendors: You don't want to be in a tussle with some shady AliExpress or Temu vendor over returning a defective unit (which can happen to any manufacturer on any model). Using a distributor in your country or region might help as your local/regional consumer laws will likely apply to them and keep them in line. It is also highly advisable to know the return policy.

7. Key Resources and Sites to Know


Benchmark, Database & Discussion sites:

r/Controller - Lot's of useful info. Mostly reviews.
Gamepadla - Benchmarks. Latency, polling rate etc.
Hardware Tester (Gamepad) - Site for testing controllers, no additional apps required as it works via your browser.

List of Notable Manufacturers

  • Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo: Console vendors are not the best specs-wise, but they are always a viable option as their distribution and post-sale support capabilities absolutely clear what independent manufacturers can do. They also tend to offer the most color variants of all brands.
  • 8Bitdo
  • Gamesir
  • Flydigi
  • Gulikit
  • EasySMX
  • ZD
  • Manba
  • Mobapad
  • Mohjon (formerly known as BigBigWon)
  • Beitong
  • Aolion
  • Razer
  • Scuf
  • PXN
  • Nacon
  • PowerA
  • Turtle Beach
  • NYXI
  • Hori
  • HexGaming
  • Dobe

Notable Reviewers

Here is a non-exhaustive list of sites and YouTube channels to look at if you're thinking of buying a controller, please note that this is NOT an endorsement as any of these people could get into some sort of controversy after we added them here, but we've found their content to be quite informative while making this OT, we will be updating the OP as time goes on to add others, so please don't hesitate to suggest any you find:

Known Buying Sites

This is a non-exhaustive list of sites and sellers that are generally well-thought of in the controller community. With that said, buyer beware!

AKNES
GadgetHyper
MINIXPC
AliExpress (Exercise caution when choosing sellers though, we personally find that sticking to the 'Choice' tag works best if you're unsure about the seller)

Controller Care tips:

  • We generally recommend starting out with dry wiping the hard parts of the controller, just make sure you are not being too rough with it, if certain stains won't go away, proceed with the following steps because we might still have you covered!
  • If dry wiping controllers won't suffice, we recommend using wet wipes/baby wipes preferably 99% water ones, those have less oils so controllers won't get sticky - it's essentially water and soap, and it cleans sweat, dead skin and any type of dirt.
  • Be sure to use a dry tissue or paper towel afterwards to remove any residual moisture or oils so there won't be any stains.
  • When cleaning, watch out for stickers at the back of controllers, as some are basically pure paper and they will disintegrate on contact with moisture, laminated labels should be fine though as long as you don't scrub. Also use tissues with up to 3-4 layers, those shouldn't leave any paper crumbs.

8. Notable Posts

Coming Soon as the OT matures. =)
 
Dude this is an awesome thread! I love talking shop on controllers. Really looking forward to the discussions here.
 
Audio jack on the gamepad: should it be considered mandatory in any civilized society? I love those 8BitDo Ultimate gamepads and even bought one (with company money) but I really miss having an audio jack there. It's why I mostly use an Xbox One gamepad even if it's a bit worse, imo.
 
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My favorite controller is the Xbox Series S/X ones. I use them on PC via Bluetooth.

They have that texture that allows grip even if the grubby rat paws holding it are sweaty.

The analog stick placement feels right.

If only I didn't have to replace it once a year due to buttons misfiring and sticks not being accurate.
 
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Dude this is an awesome thread! I love talking shop on controllers. Really looking forward to the discussions here.
Me too although I only had time to post the OT. I have to go to sleep now, lmao.

It's nice to finally post the thing we were working together on, finally we can talk about controllers all we like.

I can share udev rules template for my Linux bros around here.

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I've already decided that TMR is the way to go for Sticks.
But I'm still don't know what buttons are best.
I just don't want to hear a physcial click when I press. So I guess I'm a membrane fan.

I've never had a face button fail on any controller I've owned, But I've had several with bumper issues, sticking and breaking.
 
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If only I didn't have to replace it once a year due to buttons misfiring and sticks not being accurate.
Love the gamepad too but those damn triggers are just too weak.

Got mine broke during an Elden Ring playthough and that hurt more than any death lol. :goog_relieved:
 
Audio jack on the gamepad: should it be considered mandatory in any civilized society? I love those 8BitDo Ultimate gamepads and even bought one (with company money) but I really miss having an audio jack there. It's why I mostly use an Xbox One gamepad even if it's a bit worse, imo.
I assume you're doing your gaming on PC, if so, then it depends on what kind of headphone you want to connect, most of the amps in these controllers can't handle like a high-impedance audiophile headphone, but for your wired HyperX/Razer/Corsair etc headsets, it should more than suffice in terms of quality/volume.

But honestly I think a better long-term path is either going with a good wireless headphone (lots of reasonably priced options out there) or if you want to go audiophile, then you should go with an external DAC/Amp and use that (this carries the added benefit of removing motherboard noise from the equation).

The other thing is whether you will like being tethered to your controller, I personally didn't like the feeling way back when.
 
I've already decided that TMR is the way to go for Sticks.
But I'm still don't know what buttons are best.
I just don't want to hear a physcial click when I press. So I guess I'm a membrane fan.
Membrane is your best bet here, but there's a new controller that touts "silent" mechanical buttons (louder than membrane, more quiet than typical mechanical switches). So this feature might propagate amongst the other Chinese controllers.

Some videos if you want to see for yourself:



My favorite controller is the Xbox Series S/X ones. I use them on PC via bBluetooth.

They have that texture that allows grip even if the grubby rat paws holding it are sweaty.

The analog stick placement feels right.

If only I didn't have to replace it once a year due to buttons misfiring and sticks not being accurate.
Good TMR modules are already available for the Xbox series controllers, but the process to take them apart seems kinda annoying, not to mention that you need to be good with a solder, here's a video if you want to check if it's for you:
 
Oooh, my new favorite thread! I have collected controllers for a long time, and have an, uh, embarrassing amount...

The new Gamesir G7 Pro looks fantastic! I'm thinking I'll order one, give it a go.
I personally went for the Zenless Zone Zero special edition as it looks seriously sick (I don't even play ZZZ lol), it's shipping in Dec though!


 
Membrane is your best bet here, but there's a new controller that touts "silent" mechanical buttons (louder than membrane, more quiet than typical mechanical switches). So this feature might propagate amongst the other Chinese controllers.

Some videos if you want to see for yourself:




Good TMR modules are already available for the Xbox series controllers, but the process to take them apart seems kinda annoying, not to mention that you need to be good with a solder, here's a video if you want to check if it's for you:

I can confirm they are a pain to disassemble/reassemble. I did that once when my "B" button stopped working. Getting each face button back in place for putting the front cover back on is like playing a marble maze game but with four marbles, and you lose if any of them fall in a hole.
 
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Oooh, my new favorite thread! I have collected controllers for a long time, and have an, uh, embarrassing amount...
Same. I'm definitely past 200 controllers at this point. Maybe even 250-300.

Of course about 40-50 of those are just GameCube controllers, since I was into competitive Melee for a super long time.

At some point I want to round up all of my controllers and do a proper inventory. I also definitely could stand to throw/give some of them away.
 
My wife is trying to make me do this lol.
That's why I'm afraid to take an inventory… right now, most of the controllers are put away in boxes. If I were to splay them all out on the floor, I'm pretty sure she'd want me to throw a bunch away.
 
Of course about 40-50 of those are just GameCube controllers, since I was into competitive Melee for a super long time.
I'm curious, what do you think of their durability? Because I have 3 GC controllers and, while one of them has the Z button sort of messed up, the other two work just as they did back in 2002.

Xbox has the best controllers
Great hergonomics but kinda shitty durability. Although I'd say the later's true for many modern controllers including the ones from the big 3.
 
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But then again, I haven't searched if someone out there sells an out-of-the-box carbon copy of them with better build quality/features.
If you're on PC.. Tons!

You can pick almost any brand from the ones we posted in the OP and it's super likely they have some "Xbox-inspired" controllers out there.

Some like Gamesir have even went on to make licensed Xbox controllers!
 
I'm curious, what do you think of their durability? Because I have 3 GC controllers and, while one of them has the Z button sort of messed up, the other two work just as they did back in 2002.
They're some of the most durable controllers ever built. Unless you're a rabid Melee player, you can expect those controllers to work almost indefinitely. The only thing that really starts to break down are the sticks, and usually they just start getting a bit loose. But all of the buttons (including the Z button) are incredibly easy to clean and repair.

The main reason why I have so many is because there are really minute differences in the sticks that can affect high-level Melee play, and so for anyone "serious" about that, you need to burn through a lot of controllers before you find one that feels just right.

But in terms of general use, the 6th Gen controllers are some of the most durable and well-built.
 
The Dualsense Edge with Gulikit TMR modules is the best pad I've ever used by such a long way, infact it's completely changed this gen for me, the alps sticks that they use by default are trash.
 
Am I in the minority here who thought the Dualshock 4 had better build stability and felt more ergonomically comfortable than the Dualsense?
 
Tagging HeisenbergFX4 HeisenbergFX4 and Topher Topher as we talked controllers before.


Shape and ergos yes, but the face buttons and D-pad are honestly far too noisy for my liking though and they don't have a satisfying click to them like the Gamesir G7 pro does.

Sweet! Thanks for tagging me

Great thread BeardSpike BeardSpike !

Xbox has the best controllers

Sure, if you think so, but what other controllers have you tried? There are a ton of quality options out there these days......at least on the PC side.
 
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Oooh, my new favorite thread! I have collected controllers for a long time, and have an, uh, embarrassing amount...

The new Gamesir G7 Pro looks fantastic! I'm thinking I'll order one, give it a go.
I use it on Linux no problem you just have to switch it from HID Input to Xinput.


FYI.

Gamesir Super Nova works out of the box too. I haven't have had any problems with both Gamesir and Gulikit on Linux, 8BitDo on the other hand...

Wasn't a fan of Gulikit before because of some weird choices with triggers dampening before.

But since they started to work with gamepadla.com they started to improve insanely to the point I basically daily drive ES Pro.

Can't wait for Gulikit TT Pro and Max, I'm excited they are bringing HyperLink 2, their lowest latency on the market, improved triggers, Switch 2 wake up and mixing it with their patented Maglev motors. Those are insane, can basically do Rumble, HD Rumble and Haptics in any game. Plus it will have TMRs and will be priced competitively and will probably do 750Hz over Bluetooth and 1000Hz polling rate wired. Insane value tbh. And TMRs will have adjustable force feedback.

Oh, I forgot I was going to sleep, lmao.

FYI. Gulikit HyperLink 2 BT adapter works under Linux.

And it improves polling rates on DualSense regardless of OS.

MrAlwaysRight MrAlwaysRight

If you use your DualSense Edge with TMR sticks on PC order HyperLink 2 adapter you will be in awe.
 
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Am I in the minority here who thought the Dualshock 4 had better build stability and felt more ergonomically comfortable than the Dualsense?

Don't really agree. DS4 was fine, but it was ergonomically inferior to DualSense. Same for build quality. The achilles heel for DualSense is battery life.
 
Am I in the minority here who thought the Dualshock 4 had better build stability and felt more ergonomically comfortable than the Dualsense?
My experience has been the opposite, DS4 consistently gave me hand cramps while Dualsense never did.

Battery life on the Dualsense completely sucks though.
 
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Here's a random picture of controllers, but the reason I'm posting it is because of the prototype Steam Machine controller in the top right. I won't be home for a few days, but I wanted to post this controller, since it's pretty interesting. But it's the only picture I have of it atm.

It has no sticks, two touch pads, these super awkward ABXY buttons, and then four programmable square buttons in the middle. It's a horrible controller.

I was one of the 300 people who received a prototype Steam Machine back in the day, and I remember giving pretty scathing feedback about this controller. Thankfully, they drastically changed it.

(Side note about the above picture. If you zoom in on the X360 controller's left stick, you'll see a metal octagonal gate that I modded in there. This was to give me cardinal and diagonal notches to better play games like Marble Blast Ultra, and certain fighting games.)

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Here's another interesting one. It's a hotel Lodgenet controller I "acquired" from a hotel when they were changing out TVs. It's modded to play on a normal GameCube, but the hotel buttons are obviously non-functional. It's interesting, this controller I believe was made by Hori, and even though it feels first-party and high-quality, some of the buttons are a bit different. The Z button, especially, is very clicky with no spring mechanism.

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And here's one more neat one. The world's smallest GameCube controller! This was originally one of those GameCube controller keychains, but there's an incredible modder out there who makes a ton of custom controllers (I forget her name, but I'll edit this comment when I find it), and I contacted her and she made me one. It's 100% fully functional. Both sticks are fully analog. The tiny d-pad works. All of the buttons work. (No L and R analog, just digital.) And it even has a tiny rumble motor in it!

Easily one of the coolest controllers I own.
 
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If you're on PC.. Tons!

You can pick almost any brand from the ones we posted in the OP and it's super likely they have some "Xbox-inspired" controllers out there.

Some like Gamesir have even went on to make licensed Xbox controllers!
Thanks! I started looking at 8bitdo options on Amazon.

For some reason I thought 8bitdo was super expensive, but their wireless Xbox-style PC controllers I'm seeing are the same price or even cheaper than first-party. What?!
 
I am still using a wired xbox360 controller...maybe 15 years old already. But I need something new....that thing is starting to show his age. I really would like to buy the same controller...just in new. But all these controllers I see nowadays seems to be nearly all wireless. :messenger_pensive: If someone know a good wired xbox-ish controller which works ootb under linux...just let me know.
 
Sweet! Thanks for tagging me

Great thread BeardSpike BeardSpike !



Sure, if you think so, but what other controllers have you tried? There are a ton of quality options out there these days......at least on the PC side.

Ive been gaming for over 30 years now breh... I dont care much for pro or custom controllers but I do like 8bitdo's when it comes to third parties. Always found Razer to be meh.

Switch 2 Pro is very nice btw.
 
Awesome thread! I also have an embarrassing number of game controllers lying around.

My current daily driver though is the PS5 Dualsense, USB wired into my PC for the full experience. It's just more comfortable and less buggy than my 8bitdo Ultimate, sorry.
 
Thanks! I started looking at 8bitdo options on Amazon.

For some reason I thought 8bitdo was super expensive, but their wireless Xbox-style PC controllers I'm seeing are the same price or even cheaper than first-party. What?!
8bitdo is super reasonable. And while there are a few controllers of theirs that I avoid, by and large they make some of the best modern controllers you can get today.

If you're ever looking for a good retro controller, their M30 is probably in my top 5 controllers of all-time. (Get the black version, though. I've had issues with the d-pad on Saturn-colored version.)
 
Am I in the minority here who thought the Dualshock 4 had better build stability and felt more ergonomically comfortable than the Dualsense?

I certainly never went through analog sticks as often on the DS4, but going back to it now the range of motion feels clunky and it feels too small, so i think the Dualsense just nailed it, at the expense of QC of course, but it seems all the alps modules are terrible these days.
 
Ive been gaming for over 30 years now breh... I dont care much for pro or custom controllers but I do like 8bitdo's when it comes to third parties. Always found Razer to be meh.

Switch 2 Pro is very nice btw.

lol.....I wasn't questioning your gaming experience my man. Think this thread is looking a bit further out than standard console controllers, but if those are all that interest you then cool.
 
Am I in the minority here who thought the Dualshock 4 had better build stability and felt more ergonomically comfortable than the Dualsense?
8th and 9th gen controllers are all terrible. (With the exception of the Switch 2 Pro, at least so far.)

I've gone through 5 Xbox Elite controllers, repairing a few of them up to half a dozen times with aftermarket parts. And I've now gone through 3 Xbox Elite 2 controllers. I've gone through 4-5 Xbox One controllers, and 3 Xbox Series controllers.

I keep buying them because I LOVE the feel and layout of the modern Xbox controllers. But they fall apart like legos. 90% of those controller deaths were because of broken LB/RB buttons. (Usually from playing Rocket League.)

I've only gone through 2 or 3 DualShock 4 controllers, but that's mostly because I don't like that controller, so I rarely use it. Mostly the same with the DualSense, though it's nicer than DS4.
 
Thanks! I started looking at 8bitdo options on Amazon.

For some reason I thought 8bitdo was super expensive, but their wireless Xbox-style PC controllers I'm seeing are the same price or even cheaper than first-party. What?!
8bitdo is kind of different to the Xbox controller, a bit smaller and has a different curvature. I own the Xbox 3-Mode controller and it's nice, but kinda different to the Xbox controller grip in ways I don't necessarily like.

I would recommend looking into:
EasySMX
ZD
Beitong
Gulikit

These companies do shapes that are closer to the Xbox one, BeardSpike BeardSpike would almost certainly be able to suggest specific models for you once he wakes up lol.
 
Me too although I only had time to post the OT. I have to go to sleep now, lmao.

It's nice to finally post the thing we were working together on, finally we can talk about controllers all we like.

I can share udev rules template for my Linux bros around here.

Poppinfresh Poppinfresh Durin Durin Topher Topher Soodanim Soodanim Crayon Crayon B Broad Spectrum Hudo Hudo pudel pudel Kataploom Kataploom Diseased Yak Diseased Yak Wolzard Wolzard Jinzo Prime Jinzo Prime StereoVsn StereoVsn feel free to jump in if you are interested in talking controllers and your experiences on different OSes.
Please do!
 
Ohhhhh great thread! I have a crap ton of controllers spanning MANY eons!

Current daily controller:
PC: GameSir G7 pro
Switch: Pro 2
PS: DS Edge/Razer V2 (after the 45 minutes of the DS Edge are used up)

Favorite fight stick:
Leverless: Razer Kuni or the 8bitdo (surprisingly awesome)

Traditional:
Victrix or whatever Madcatz TE that's laying around.

Emulation:
Mister- SNAC for whatever platform
8bitdo pro 3 (but having compatibility issues with some hardware).
 
Gamepadla.com is useful to compare latency of different controllers. I wanted 8bitdo for hall sticks and latency, but they have so many similarly named controllers its difficult to keep track. Two very similar options:
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The Ultimate 2 is much better over bluetooth, and over twice as fast with the USB dongle. But the older one is actually better plugged in, though by a slim margin (2.02 vs 2.81). The "Ultimate C Wired" gets you hall sticks and 6.67ms latency for only 20 bucks, but no wireless. It really depends on your priorities, there is no best one of these.

I ended up going with the Ultimate 2.4G. It's cheaper than the new model, while still being technically fastest while plugged in. The C version is tempting at $20 but I wanted the option to use it wireless. If I'm concerned about latency I'll just plug it in.
 
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