Cop Allegedly Shot Unarmed Man Parked In His Own Driveway

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wildfire said:
The problems with the justice system are bad but not so much that we can't rely on the police to do their job now and again. But please continue telling people not to call the police when they want them to mediate a problem.
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You are embarrassingly naive.

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Also, this is the part where I remind everyone that disarming cops wouldn't do that much.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=875684
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=857530
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=895508
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=846200
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=885414

Ironically, these aren't the thread I intended to link to. I was aiming for the one where the cop has the old lady strattled on the side of the freeway and is beating the shit out of her, but I found all these instead. No, the issue is that cops think like this:

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=878318


Slammin_Hammon said:
What is with all of this shit recently? I don't remember these kinds of things happening so frequently in the past. Was I just less aware or has there been some imperceptible change in America in the past few years?
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You were less aware. Ironically, it's actually better now than it was in the past. Chew on that for a while.
 
Dan said:
What a load of shit.
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I don't get the logic behind it. His misdemeanor lead to someone getting killed. So shouldn't he be simply charged with both, misdemeanor and manslaughter?

If I kill someone with my car while drunk, will I only get charged with driving while intoxicated? I have my doubts.
 
Kinyou said:
I don't get the logic behind it. His misdemeanor lead to someone getting killed. So shouldn't he be simply charged with both, misdemeanor and manslaughter?
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Double jeopardy and the grand jury has final say. Only hope is a civil suit.
 
DreamDrop said:
You were less aware. Ironically, it's actually better now than it was in the past. Chew on that for a while.
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That's good I suppose, because instead of race relations and abuse of power worsening they have at least improved, despite still being horrendous. Things must have been pretty bad in the past if we are progressing now.
 
Same old shit , just a different day

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Slammin_Hammon said:
That's good I suppose, because instead of race relations and abuse of power worsening they have at least improved, despite still being horrendous. Things must have been pretty bad in the past if we are progressing now.
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We aren't being lynched or raped nearly as often and the media actually notices when we die. You gotta remember, the civil rights movement was most of our parents, not grandparents.
 
Slammin_Hammon said:
What is with all of this shit recently? I don't remember these kinds of things happening so frequently in the past. Was I just less aware or has there been some imperceptible change in America in the past few years?
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I think most people were less aware in the past. Thanks to the internet, we can get news from all around the globe. In the past this story likely wouldn't have been known outside of where it took place.

As for the actual story, I'm not sure what excuse can justify this as a misdemeanor. A slow speed chase of a senior citizen should never end in five gunshots. It's inexcusable.
 
Oh great it was investigated and he was found at faul... wait what? You other people just swooped in and decided against it? Jesus fucking christ, there's literally no way for a cop to actually be charged with the crime he actually committed. They could shoot a random person in the face and best they'd get fired and get a handful of years (after outrage and protests of course).
 
DreamDrop said:
We aren't being lynched or raped nearly as often and the media actually notices when we die. You gotta remember, the civil rights movement was most of our parents, not grandparents.
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You're right. It's easy to forget that it hasn't been that long since the civil rights movement. The man who was shot was probably in his late teens during the time. For some reason that feels much further away than it should.
 
Did his toxicology report reveal the weeds? I'm sure it was the weeds. Story has old menace hyped up on the weeds written all over it. I say good kill Officer Craven, good kill.
 
wildfire said:
The problems with the justice system are bad but not so much that we can't rely on the police to do their job now and again. But please continue telling people not to call the police when they want them to mediate a problem.
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hahaha I got shot at and didn't call the police because I didn't want any trouble.
Just learned my lesson, don't chill in Silver Hill in a parking lot after dark.

edit: and his name is literally Craven. Jesus.
 
Slammin_Hammon said:
What is with all of this shit recently? I don't remember these kinds of things happening so frequently in the past. Was I just less aware or has there been some imperceptible change in America in the past few years?
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24 Hour News and the Internet has made it so people are no more aware of injustices. The Internet also has a rather liberal slant so things like Police Brutality tend to pop up often. Combine that with the fact that we're still hot off Ferguson, and a lot of stuff that happened with the last year is popping up and pissing people off.

A good example is the fact that in my home state (Vermont) a certain case is getting a lot of press. In the town of Rutland a cop pulled a kid over and wanted to search his car since Heroin has been a big problem and--big shocker!--he was black. After arguing with him for several minutes he wrote him a ticket for "having a bit of snow obscuring his registration sticker" (IT WAS MARCH IN VERMONT) and then said he had probable cause to search his car. When the guy continued to decline that he then just has his car towed, and left him in 20 degree weather to make his way home (8 miles) on his own while declining to allow him to get his cell phone and wallet from inside the car.

The point is, whatever you feal about Ferguson, it has brought Police Brutality and Police Militarization to the main stage. The kinds of stories that would get passed around via word of mouth are now on the news and flying around the internet.
 
StanleyStutters said:
I think most people were less aware in the past. Thanks to the internet, we can get news from all around the globe. In the past this story likely wouldn't have been known outside of where it took place.

As for the actual story, I'm not sure what excuse can justify this as a misdemeanor. A slow speed chase of a senior citizen should never end in five gunshots. It's inexcusable.
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I think you're probably right about the effect of the internet. Also I agree that there is no reason that the situation should have ended the way it did. An able bodied 25 year old should know he can deal with a 68 year old man without needing to draw his weapon.

Edit: (to the above post) the situation in Ferguson does seem to have had a large effect on what we see in the media currently, and I suppose that shouldn't be a suprise since hot button topics and stories that relate always get a lot of attention.
 
Lamel said:
What even is a slow speed chase...for 9 miles.

The dude didn't deserve to be shot and killed, the cop is totally in the wrong. But what was he thinking by not pulling over?
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Well, considering that he got killed after he stopped, it may be prudent not to pull over...
 
Excuse me.....but where are all the GOOD COPS speaking out about this? Where's the good cops coming out publicly stating there was no reason to draw his weapon and that he shouldn't be on the force?

*crickets*

speculawyer said:
Why did he shoot him? Because he was pissed?

I don't get it.
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When you're a cop you can lose your temper, shoot a man and then just make up any excuse after the fact.

It's very common.
 
DreamDrop said:
We aren't being lynched or raped nearly as often and the media actually notices when we die. You gotta remember, the civil rights movement was most of our parents, not grandparents.
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Ferguson is actually an example of how things have improved. Back in the old days, the police would've just gone through that town and shot everyone in sight, lynched a couple dozen people, and called it a day.
 
FStubbs said:
Ferguson is actually an example of how things have improved. Back in the old days, the police would've just gone through that town and shot everyone in sight, lynched a couple dozen people, and called it a day.
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Truth. Hearing my parents stories of growing up in North Carolina in the 1940's scared the shit out of me.
 
DreamDrop said:
Existing while black.
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i laughed,

not because it's funny, it was more like a pity laugh i guess

We went from driving while black to waiting for your kids while black. only makes sense to just stop beating around the bush and make it existing while black.
 
would love for one of these stories to end with someone getting justice for the victim in an eye for an eye way. i honestly dont know how you could have a loved one murdered, let alone by a cop, and not take revenge on them. i could never let something like that go, never.
 
neurosisxeno said:
A good example is the fact that in my home state (Vermont) a certain case is getting a lot of press. In the town of Rutland a cop pulled a kid over and wanted to search his car since Heroin has been a big problem and--big shocker!--he was black. After arguing with him for several minutes he wrote him a ticket for "having a bit of snow obscuring his registration sticker" (IT WAS MARCH IN VERMONT) and then said he had probable cause to search his car. When the guy continued to decline that he then just has his car towed, and left him in 20 degree weather to make his way home (8 miles) on his own while declining to allow him to get his cell phone and wallet from inside the car.
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Amazing.

Even reading up on more details the story gets clownier.

n fact, the complaint says, "Mr. Zullo was perfectly obeying all applicable traffic laws when driving through Wallingford that day."
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The traffic stop was recorded by a dashcam on Hatch's SUV, which missed most of the audio because Hatch did not take the microphone with him went he went over to Zullo's car.
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threatening to impound the car and claiming the police dog in the back of his SUV had smelled something suspicious. According to the ACLU, the dog, which never left the SUV, was not even trained to detect drugs.
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I feel saddened that I "knew" the man was black. It wasn't until reading several posts referring to his skin color did I realize the thread title failed to mention his color, I just safely assumed. What the fuck is going on with police officers in the south?
 
DedValve said:
how many times does this need to happen before we get serious change about the disgusting police activity?
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When theses incidents for white people go up by a factor of 4. I'm not even pulling these numbers out of thin air. Based on a previous thread about "justifiable homicides" and the racial disparity it would need be magnified that much. Though I would not be surprised if it would take less than that.
 
Spine_Ripper said:
I feel saddened that I "knew" the man was black. It wasn't until reading several posts referring to his skin color did I realize the thread title failed to mention his color, I just safely assumed. What the fuck is going on with police officers in the south?
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Same shit as always. Just can't kill as many black people nowadays.
 
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