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Cops mistake Krispy Kreme doughnut glaze for meth

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Syriel

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Time to sue. Would love to hear the officer try to explain how their drug test for meth came back positive on glazed sugar.

Now imagine all the people who didn't have the resources to contest this.

And this is why police aren't usually stupid enough to stop upper-middle-class folks with bogus charges like this.

If they stick to stopping people who don't have the resources to fight, they're golden. Stop someone who knows a lawyer, and has the resources to fight, and the PD has a fight it really doesn't want.
 

Kibbles

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At least he'll get a lighter sentence based on the amount, since Krispy Kreme donuts are mostly air.
Yeah I used to love KirspyKreme but I got them recently from Sam's club and didn't really care for them. The KwikTrip glazed donuts I had when one opened up nearby were far superior and less messy.
 

Syriel

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At least the guy in the OP is filing suit:

Rushing, who retired after 25 years as an Orlando parks department employee, has hired a lawyer and is asking the city to pay him damages.

"I got arrested for no reason at all," he said.

He has not spelled out how much money he wants, but attorney William Ruffier says he expects to file suit next month.

The Orlando Police Department did not explain why the two drug field tests that Riggs-Hopkins conducted were wrong.

When asked how many other road-side drug tests have produced false positive results, an OPD spokeswoman wrote, "At this time, we have no responsive records. … There is no mechanism in place for easily tracking the number of, or results of, field drug testing."
 

zeemumu

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Archaix

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At least the guy in the OP is filing suit:

When asked how many other road-side drug tests have produced false positive results, an OPD spokeswoman wrote, "At this time, we have no responsive records. … There is no mechanism in place for easily tracking the number of, or results of, field drug testing."

Translation: "God dammit you assholes. Now I have to go make fake receipts to act like we ever had the ability to drug test in the field"
 

Africanus

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It's stories like these that make me wonder just how many white (and mostly black and Latino) people are currently rotting in the prision system from the 80s on because of false positive arrests.
 
Cops searched my car (after choking their dog and claiming it as a positive ID) and were suspicious of the newspaper bags I stored my trash in, and claimed that a yogurt-crusted spoon was used for heroin.
 
They really need to get rid of those drug testers. They read positive for anything. No the polices fault though because they don't know thy don't work either. Also who assumes that flakes on the ground are drugs first and foremost?

Well I can say through personal experience that from the moment they get out of their car, they are looking to pin anything on you, and to get inside your car. I've had a state trooper follow me for 3 miles on the highway (I saw when he pulled off the side of the road, and also read the mile markers to see how long he was following me) and not pull me over. I got off the highway and was very near my house, at a stoplight, when the cop decided that it was time to pull me over. He said that I was speeding on the highway even though he was following behind me the entire time, and did not put his lights on lol. It was 1 in the morning, and it escalated very quickly from him telling me I was speeding (was 72 in 60, not reckless), to him asking me how much I had drank that night, for no reason. Once I told him I had 1 beer 3 hours before when I got off work, he thought that was good enough excuse to make me get out of my car and take a sobriety test (I did the stand on one leg and say abc's). I passed easily, and I will never forget what he asked next. "Ok so how much weed did you smoke tonight then?" I looked at him and said "what? I don't smoke marijuana." and that's when he tried to trap me. Basically he said he wanted to search my car... and I told him no, because at that point I felt mad violated. I remember so vividly him saying things like "Hey, I'm just doing my job" and "Well I could just call the K-9" and I didn't crack. Told him "Sir I passed your test, and you don't have any reason to search my car, so nah, you can call them if you want." Then he tried to switch it on me one last time by saying that when I got out the car, he say a plastic weed bag by my foot. I rolled my eyes at him, and opened the door to see a piece of clear tape on the ground where my feet would have been. I picked it up off the floor, and pretty much shoved it in his face saying "looks like tape to me officer". I just got the speeding ticket, and when I tried to tell the judge in court that the officer was profiling me, he wasn't hearing it lol.

I guess what I'm saying is they probably assume anything on the ground is drugs, in hope that they get lucky, and fill their quota. And maybe if they aren't lucky, they make up something.

The drug kits most police depts use are from 1973, cost $2, and are wildly unreliable
https://www.propublica.org/article/common-roadside-drug-test-routinely-produces-false-positives

Most cops know the tests are unreliable, and are able to turn any test positive or negative depending on whether they want to make a bust or not
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/marijuana-advocacy/

Don't let cops search your car.

Yep. Just don't let them, as long is there's no cause.
 
How does sugar trigger a positive on their test? Like, wtf.

The cop simply lied.

They won't even spin it to say it was a "false positive", they'll just won't comment on it and it will fade away. Reading further it could also be the shitty tests, which is even more alarming since they can create crimes and evidence out of thin air.
 

teiresias

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"I recognized through my eleven years of training and experience as a law enforcement officer the substance to be some sort of narcotic," she wrote.

This nonsense just made me simultaneously annoyed and amused, and made me think of that scene from "The Birdcage":

- "Chewing gum helps me think."
- "Sweetie, you're wasting your gum."
 

Tall4Life

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How the hell did the drug test even come back positive on doughnut glaze in the first place?

The field drug tests that cops use are horribly inaccurate and can be triggered by many normal things. It's the more likely scenario than the cops falsifying the test. The cops know the test is terrible but they use it anyway since its cheap.
 

ElRenoRaven

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If these tests are so goddamn unreliable that they're turning up positive on fucking sugar then they need to do away with them. That's just batshit crazy that fucking sugar turned up positive for meth.
 

GhostBed

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Something similar to this happened to me once, luckily I avoided arrest.

I had a small plate in my back seat that I had left there from eating a sandwich or something in the car a few days prior. When I was pulled over, the officer tried to open my back door without asking me or saying anything. Luckily it was locked and I said "Uh, please don't open my car without asking?" to which he didn't respond.

"What are the black specks on that plate in the backseat?"

"Umm, black specks? Dirt I guess. It's been in here for a few days"

"is it marijuana resin?"

I literally laughed out loud when he said that which probably didn't help. He used the plate as an excuse to search my car and called two other officers to watch me while he was searching. He didn't find anything but he took the plate and said he was gonna take it "back to the lab" to test for marijuana and if he found any there would be a warrent for my arrest.

Worth mentioning that I had been arrested on marijuana charges a few years prior in the same town and this stop was following pretty much every cop in town aggressively following me wherever I went, which is apparently a common tactic of theirs for people they don't trust, according to several members of the community I talked to about it. They really really wanted to bust me again.
 

DiscoJer

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The Drug War is just absolutely insane. It's literally become an inquisition.

And it's easy to say "Just don't let the cops search your car (or house)", but it's much, much harder to actually do that when it happens to you (as it did to me once, apparently because I have allergies and would buy a box of actifed a month)
 
Oh, the jokes.

How can they call themselves cops if they can't recognize donut glaze?

The cop then arrested her partner for leaving meth w/ rainbow sprinkles in her patrol car.

If she had done a field touch-taste tests she would have known the difference. And immediately craved some coffee to go with it.

Woukd she have also mistaken a powdered sugar donut dust for cocaine powder?



More seriously, he needs to sue the pants off the company that makes those field drug-test strips. If it can't differentiate meth from sugar glaze, it is abysmally flawed.
 

Condom

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Oh, the jokes.

How can they call themselves cops if they can't recognize donut glaze?

The cop then arrested her partner for leaving meth w/ rainbow sprinkles in her patrol car.

If she had done a field touch-taste tests she would have known the difference. And immediately craved some coffee to go with it.

Woukd she have also mistaken a powdered sugar donut dust for cocaine powder?



More seriously, he needs to sue the pants off the company that makes those field drug-test strips. If it can't differentiate meth from sugar glaze, it is abysmally flawed.
It isn't the fault of the company that the users of those tests are idiots (or rather uninformed users) who known little about drugs.
 

Apt101

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This is what happens when you let your basic high school graduates and GED holders try to conduct scientific tests on the side of the road.
 
Worth mentioning that I had been arrested on marijuana charges a few years prior in the same town and this stop was following pretty much every cop in town aggressively following me wherever I went, which is apparently a common tactic of theirs for people they don't trust, according to several members of the community I talked to about it. They really really wanted to bust me again.

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Be careful...
You may end up on the Holodeck sequel in 40 years
 
This reminds me when some jackass cop thought an ecstasy pill my brother had in his pocket was heroin

Herion.

The Tampa police bastards charged him with a felony because of their stupidity.
 
It isn't the fault of the company that the users of those tests are idiots (or rather uninformed users) who known little about drugs.

I'm assuming the "This is meth!" indication appeared when they used the strip (or whatever it is). Which means a indicator for meth ALSO indicates the presence of sacharrides, which seems like a massive design flaw.

IDK though, maybe the moieties on meth molecules are similar to sugars? I don't know the chemical structure of meth.
 

h1nch

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The police should be sued and have extremely punitive punishments levied against them every single time something like this happens.

It's the only way they'll learn to stop being worthless scumbag organized criminals.
 

Syriel

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It isn't the fault of the company that the users of those tests are idiots (or rather uninformed users) who known little about drugs.

I would seriously doubt he has any sort of case against the company making those kits.

Those kits are marketed and sold to cops as easy/quick tests.

The reliability (or lack thereof) is known.

It's not like these are re-purposed tests that police just decided to buy. They were created for and are specifically marketed to police departments across the US as a way to increase drug arrests and convictions via plea deals.

None of the road side tests are admissible in court. The average person does not know that.
 
Lol as people saying dont give the police the chance to search your car. All the police need to search your car is probable cause and you declining the search is enough to give them that. They can say they smelled weed, saw residue, or noticed you acting jumpy and that's good enough. If you try to leave they can say you were fleeing the scene and then you are definitely getting searched and getting booked.

If at any point you are unlucky enough to have to interact with a police officer if at any time that officer wants you to sit in a jail cell, in a jail cell you will be and there is nothing you can read on the internet that will keep that from happening.
 

Aselith

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Lol as people saying dont give the police the chance to search your car. All the police need to search your car is probable cause and you declining the search is enough to give them that. They can say they smelled weed, saw residue, or noticed you acting jumpy and that's good enough. If you try to leave they can say you were fleeing the scene and then you are definitely getting searched and getting booked.

If at any point you are unlucky enough to have to interact with a police officer if at any time that officer wants you to sit in a jail cell, in a jail cell you will be and there is nothing you can read on the internet that will keep that from happening.

No reason not to decline. If they want to force the issue, that's on them. Agreeing to a search will never be in your favor.
 
No reason not to decline. If they want to force the issue, that's on them. Agreeing to a search will never be in your favor.

A reason not to decline is that you don't want a jackass cop pissed off at you, make up some bullshit to search the car anyway, not find anything then make you wait for the K-9 unit to show up, get the dog to give a false hit, and now your car is impounded.

Yes it has happened!

At this point if I'm stopped by the police it's assumed they will search the car.
 
So the cops were just pissed no donuts were left for them right?

Remember kids if you eat donuts in the car, save one extra for the police.
 

Hale-XF11

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Sadly, this type of behavior from cops is standard procedure. If the police actually cared whether or not we trusted them, they wouldn't do this kind of bullshit.
 
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