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Could UFC champion Ronda Rousey be competitive against male fighters?
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You don't think Floyd would trash a low-tier MMA fighter in a street fight that starts on your feet? Because that's what Rousey is if she competes in a male division.
Leg kicks would essentially be the only serious threat Floyd would have to train for, because if he gets on the ground he probably loses no matter what, so you're not going to waste time on anything more than basic takedown defense just in case. He's so much quicker and faster, and her kicks are not so overwhelmingly dominant/dynamic, that I don't think he'd need years of experience to be able to defend himself from leg kicks.
The Shogun
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I already got involved with this shit earlier and I'm not about to get into another argument about it.
But lol at people that think Floyd could beat her in a street fight. My goodness.
But lol at people that think Floyd could beat her in a street fight. My goodness.
She started judo with her mother at age 11, qualified for olympics at age 17 (youngest judoka in the games) and became the first American to medal in women's judo. She retired from judo at age 21, started MMA at 22 where she won her first fight in just 23 seconds and has completely dominated ever since.
Most of her fights are won via armbar in less than a minute (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Iyuo9Kvy0s) but 2 of her 3 most recent fights were won by KO.
I sure as hell wouldn't. Women are people too, not objects to be protected. I wouldn't want to see her getting jumped in the streets, but if she agrees to a match then I want to see both fighters go at their all. If she gets knocked unconscious then so be it. She's a professional and I would respect the fact that she'd rather get her ass kicked than have people hold her back because she's a woman.
Kurt Angle
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Ronda could beat Tom Brady
The ultimate thread, Ronda Rousey vs. Bruce Lee.
Ninja Scooter
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I cried when this happened to BJ Penn.
LyleLanley
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Could Ronda Rousey play in the NBA?
Pretty much. Anyone with any sense is not giving her any chance. They're just promoting their one marketable fighter.
TemplaerDude
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THAT AIN'T TRUE, KURT.
LiquidSolid
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I don't really care about this debate but:
Wow. Does "men things" involve not drawing a cent of money? Because your division is pretty fucking great at that, bro.
Ian McCall said:
Wow. Does "men things" involve not drawing a cent of money? Because your division is pretty fucking great at that, bro.
LyleLanley
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This much is obvious. They're just getting everyone worked up with a stupid hypothetical scenario hoping that they'll buy the next PPV with her.
You're horribly misinformed. Horribly. Men don't fight women because it's unethical. The strength and athleticism difference is huge.
The Shogun
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Floyd would die. Literally, if she wanted to kill him.
But yes, any top level MMA male fighter would mess Ronda up bad
Nevermind, this is now the dumbest thing.
Just no. Floyd would have 40 lbs on her come fight day and he has man strength. And he just needs to hit her once, not even clean, to put her out.
Ninja Scooter
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lol Floyd would counterpunch and drop Ronda like a sack of potatos the minute she went in for her first strike or grapple.
The Shogun
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BJJ / Judo
How does it work?
You are aware a Division 1 College Wrestler who makes zero dollars could FUCK up Mayweathers entire world correct?
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
That's great when considering women's potential in the abstract, but nothing you are saying is relevant to the discussion of a specific woman competing in a specific kind of contest against a specific array of men.
The Shogun
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Yep, Floyd's KO power is legendary. Damn man has power like a freight train.
Again BJJ / Judo.
How does it work?
Boxing is old school. Anyone possessing any kind of ground game could defeat any boxer on earth.
How would Floyd stop a double leg? Please explain.
A man with that pedigree might, a women with that pedigree wouldn't.
SomethingClever
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This is correct. But we're not talking about "a boxer." We're talking about Floyd Mayweather.
Ninja Scooter
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He's fighting men. He'd drop a women like a bad habit. Hell he's probably done it before.
BronsonLee
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Other questions I have:
What would happen if Ronda Rousey was in the MCU?
Who would win in a fight between Batman and Ronda Rousey?
Is Joe Rogan high like, 24/7?
Is Joe Rogan on DMT?
It's not fair to compare Rousey to male fighters, and it's not fair to compare Mayweather to an MMA fighter. Rousey should not fight a male, and Mayweather should not compete in MMA, because those are freakshow fights that they will never need to do.
Rousey is dominant. Mayweather is dominant. They are both dominant in their respective fields. Leave it at that. Also, basically everything Rogan said on LeBatard is correct.
Edit: oh jesus Baikal is here, prepare for a whole lot of 'But I don't understand this!'
What would happen if Ronda Rousey was in the MCU?
Who would win in a fight between Batman and Ronda Rousey?
Is Joe Rogan high like, 24/7?
Is Joe Rogan on DMT?
It's not fair to compare Rousey to male fighters, and it's not fair to compare Mayweather to an MMA fighter. Rousey should not fight a male, and Mayweather should not compete in MMA, because those are freakshow fights that they will never need to do.
Rousey is dominant. Mayweather is dominant. They are both dominant in their respective fields. Leave it at that. Also, basically everything Rogan said on LeBatard is correct.
Edit: oh jesus Baikal is here, prepare for a whole lot of 'But I don't understand this!'
Subpar Spatula
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I can understand reach, pound for pound, height, etc. If a woman is able to match these requirements for the male division, what is she missing objectively that prevents her from fighting?
I consider boxing to be more centuries ago military tactics: stand in place and shoot. The advent of moving and shooting is vastly more superior because of the options available. I feel it's analogous because boxers generally are trained in boxing so a lot of techniques they cannot counter. It doesn't matter if he's physical stronger, if he is unable to anticipate or get out of certain situations he will lose. If you pit the world's best boxer against the world's best MMA fighter, the MMA fighter would win because the technique is much better for fighting. Ronda has proven herself capable. Floyd is a boxer. He would lose.
ZackieChan
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Could she beat John Carmack?
HolyBaikal
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I don't know, Brittney Griner is pretty amazing.
I like how we are now down to comparing random things.
"You know a NFL DE would crush a NBA player correct?"
Beyond delusional.
It would never happen. It would be a disaster in every possible scenario except the one where she beats the guy without getting hit once, which is exceedingly unlikely. No one wants to see a professional male fighter actually hit any woman.
Ninja Scooter
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against a top male athlete she will likely be at a disadvantage in basic strength and speed even if those other factors are even. Males and females are not equal biologically.
On paper and just looking at height and weight, Michael Carter-Williams and Brittany Griner are very similar. Watch them actually play and it's night and day.
The Shogun
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The OP directly mentioned Mayweather vs Rousey. I never brought that up.
Stop pretending I'm going OT, its in the damn OP
How would Floyd stop a double leg. Explain the technical analysis of how he would do it.
Not hurt, but it could definitely be a quick submission.
It's really a lose lose for any guy. Boxer or UFC. If he taps out he looks bad. If he pummels the crap out of her he looks bad. I just can't see any guy making that match.
She might be completely willing to complete and have that happen, but that's not going to change public opinion of the result.
SomethingClever
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OK, you must be trolling.
Griner is amazing relative to her competition, but she wouldn't even make the men's team at a top D1 school.
No he wouldn't
Ninja Scooter
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He would punch her in the face as soon as she shot in for it. He's a lot faster and has much quicker reflexes.
If there isn't any significant biological hurdles keeping women from competing with men explain to me why no woman is able to compete in something like golf, or tennis? But no, a woman is going to make the leap in one of the most physical types of sports around? Explain that.
BronsonLee
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The same way James Toney did!
I'm not sure why he's a shithead. He's being very complimentary with what he said on LeBatard.
Intangible obvious traits such as huge disadvantages in power, speed, explosiveness. That's just the most obvious.
College Wrestlers were in the OP?
Also you seem to think Mayweather wouldn't train at least a little on how to MMA fight if he agreed to it. That's a logical fallacy to assume he would just say "fuck it, I'll just stick to boxing in a MMA fight."
Subpar Spatula
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Do you have any material regarding this? It's quite interesting. Is there documented differences between male and female strength, durability, and strength even if they are similar body wise, type, muscles, etc.?
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