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[Sn4ke_911]

Compared to even Cluj-Napocca, this is low. Seeing CSGO Stagnant this much compared to the Previous major is bad.

But tomorrow is the ultimate test I guess. Major starts early morning on a Sunday for America. No excuse for us to not watch it now.

Let's not forget SGDQ is also running atm so yeah...

 

[Hey Im Patrick]

yeah, this was the chat



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZW4ZIyjZU&feature=youtu.be&t=40s

Ow shit. Damn, it's hard to believe that this will happen at that time.

 

[jediyoshi]

ayyyyyyy

got 2 cobble drops today

$$ ez

 

[Haribi]

I don't understand why they are low since this is best CS in a long time lmao.

Player and viewer numbers have been declining for some time now, for whatever reason. The last big tournaments also had much lower viewer numbers than tournaments of that scope used to have

 

[baby]

Player and viewer numbers have been declining for some time now, for whatever reason. The last big tournaments also had much lower viewer numbers than tournaments of that scope used to have

i personally stopped playing and watching because i for a short while had faith that overwatch could become a real REEEEEEEsport as i was fed up with the csgo community at large (not you guys[by you guys i mean most of the thread minus speedy]) and the game started making me angry as many of you know

 

[KingKong]

i personally stopped playing and watching because i for a short while had faith that overwatch could become a real REEEEEEEsport as i was fed up with the csgo community at large (not you guys[by you guys i mean most of the thread minus speedy]) and the game started making me angry as many of you know

there is no way, however much money Blizzard dumps in it, that overwatch becomes a real esport

 

[ironmang]

Player and viewer numbers have been declining for some time now, for whatever reason. The last big tournaments also had much lower viewer numbers than tournaments of that scope used to have

It's hard for a game to appeal to the masses for years. CSGO got super popular when skins were newish and then with CSGL. A couple years is a very long time.

A lot of people want a game that constantly changes too. They want new experiences. Long time CS fans are different and actually prefer the same experience. It's a big reason why I mostly avoid games like Siege, The Division, Destiny, Overwatch, CODs, Halos, etc. Going in knowing the community is going to fall off after a couple years assuming the servers even remain open is a big negative for me.

I could see the game getting back players though if they evolved the matchmaking system somehow. Just how it went from pubs and private servers in 1.6 and source to matchmaking with ranks in GO. If they found a way to integrate a team ladder system or some shit there could be a lot of interest seeing as ESEA league is extremely unfriendly to anybody except the very best.

 

[baby]

there is no way, however much money Blizzard dumps in it, that overwatch becomes a real esport

i agree, especially seeing how many awful decisions theyve made early on, ie coinflip system/no hero limit

i did think it had potential when it first came out

It's hard for a game to appeal to the masses for years. CSGO got super popular when skins were newish and then with CSGL. A couple years is a very long time.

how long until it stops appealing to sbd

 

[Haribi]

i personally stopped playing and watching because i for a short while had faith that overwatch could become a real REEEEEEEsport as i was fed up with the csgo community at large (not you guys[by you guys i mean most of the thread minus speedy]) and the game started making me angry as many of you know

I've pretty much stopped playing and watching too tbh. If I didn't have 2 ESEA matches a week I wouldn't be playing at all.
I still enjoy my ESEA matches, but the game just isn't fun anymore when I don't have a "goal" in mind. I just don't see the point in playing meaningless matchmaking and pugs anymore.

I guess I'm just burnt out from playing the same game so much for 4 years.

And yeah, Overwatch too. It's not a coincidence that CS got it's biggest drop in players right when Overwatch came out. I play Overwatch slightly more than CS nowadays but I'm also already getting sick by some of the balancing and gameplay issues.

 

[The 18th Letter]

I don't understand why they are low since this is best CS in a long time lmao.

what? how do you figure

2015 was the best CS where about 4 or 5 teams were legitimate contenders to win a major. Now it's just what, SK and Fnatic? You had Astralis/TSM, NaVi going to two majors, NV before the French forgot how to play CS. VP is a premier team now

Even NiKo is a scrub now

 

[baby]

I've pretty much stopped playing and watching too tbh. If I didn't have 2 ESEA matches a week I wouldn't be playing at all.
I still enjoy my ESEA matches, but the game just isn't fun anymore when I don't have a "goal" in mind. I just don't see the point in playing meaningless matchmaking and pugs anymore.

I guess I'm just burnt out from playing the same game so much for 4 years.

And yeah, Overwatch too. It's not a coincidence that CS got it's biggest drop in players right when Overwatch came out. I play Overwatch slightly more than CS nowadays but I'm also already getting sick by some of the balancing and gameplay issues.

every time i get a coin flip at the end of a match i get a little closer to uninstalling battle net, and now i have no incentive to come back to cs since i dropped out of the ksf top 1k somehow and i cant even surf on the less populated server.

i was so fucking bored today i even found myself watching the nba summer league

what? how do you figure

2015 was the best CS where about 4 or 5 teams were legitimate contenders to win a major. Now it's just what, SK and Fnatic? You had Astralis/TSM, NaVi going to two majors, NV before the French forgot how to play CS. VP is a premier team now

Even NiKo is a scrub now

how can you say fnatic is one of 2 contenders to win the major when they didnt even make it to the finals

 

[The 18th Letter]

because they came in as one of the favorites? they lost but that doesn't make them NiP tier all of a sudden

 

[baby]

because they came in as one of the favorites? they lost but that doesn't make them NiP tier all of a sudden

but theyre literally not a contender

 

[Divius]

Hmm, got a cobble drop signed by JDM.

Could sell it for 18 euro

But I'm gonna open it because I'm not a little bitch like other people in here.

Prepare for disappointment...

edit: disappointed.

 

[Hixx]

This guys accent

"find heem, keel heem, teelt heem off the feece of the planeeet"

 

[cHinzo]

Hmm, got a cobble drop signed by JDM.

Could sell it for 18 euro

But I'm gonna open it because I'm not a little bitch like other people in here.

Prepare for disappointment...

edit: disappointed.

U the real hero.

what? how do you figure

2015 was the best CS where about 4 or 5 teams were legitimate contenders to win a major. Now it's just what, SK and Fnatic? You had Astralis/TSM, NaVi going to two majors, NV before the French forgot how to play CS. VP is a premier team now

Even NiKo is a scrub now

Agreed. So many teams were playing at a high skill level with lots of tactics. Astralis was finally winning tournaments, Na'Vi with Flamie was winning tournaments, Envy was a beast of a team winning a major, Fnatic was untouchable by a lot of teams and the Brazilians were up and coming at the end of the year. Almost every team is slumping nowadays, playing at a lower level than they're used to. The NA teams improved a lot though this year.

 

[tootsi666]

what? how do you figure

2015 was the best CS where about 4 or 5 teams were legitimate contenders to win a major. Now it's just what, SK and Fnatic? You had Astralis/TSM, NaVi going to two majors, NV before the French forgot how to play CS. VP is a premier team now

Even NiKo is a scrub now

Agreed

coldzera showing why he is the best

Edit. ok TACO

 

[Hixx]

2016 has been sloppy as fuck by the top level pro teams.

Watching fnatic last night v Liquid just summed it up. Olofmeister was doing my head in playing like an idiot on Cache.

There's not really any team I enjoy watching atm. I ended up rooting for VP this tournament.

VP!

 

[jediyoshi]

jdm's awping -_-

 

[KingKong]

SK are just too good but w/e, train was their map so let's see what Liquid is like on cobble

 

[cHinzo]

I hope Nuke is gonna be the deciding factor in this game. 😏

 

[tootsi666]

Only 750k viewers

Daed gaem

 

[ashecitism]

disappointing stuff

 

[Rixxan]

Ugh, completely out played

 

[Mentok]

SK is no joke, probably one of the best teams to come along in a while.

 

[jediyoshi]

cameraman doing their best to not follow any action so we can imagine a more exciting game

whole team is in drop so let's follow this awp aiming at nothing for a minute

 

[Deadly]

Liquid got rekt. Would Fnatic have fared better against SK?

 

[The 18th Letter]

good thing we had a legitimate contender to challenge sk in the final

 

[tootsi666]

Congrats SK. The second roster to win two Majors

 

[isuzu]

aeeee

 

[Confrontation]

LG/SK building a dynasty to become the greatest CS GO team ever by a long, long way. Awesome, couldn't happen to a better team and people.

Only 750k viewers

Daed gaem

Was over a mil during Columbus though.

 

[The 18th Letter]

LG/SK building a dynasty to become the greatest CS GO team ever by a long, long way. Awesome, couldn't happen to a better team and people.



Was over a mil during Columbus though.

SK has to achieve a lot IMO for them to be considered best team ever. Fnatic was dominant during a time where every team was playing at their peak. The level of competition has dropped to the point where people think G2 is actually good

 

[Qassim]

Liquid got rekt. Would Fnatic have fared better against SK?

Almost definitely. Experience matters a lot in scenarios like this, Liquid beat Fnatic fairly, it wasn't a fluke, but this is a fairly common scenario - when an underdog that hasn't had much experience at the very top level of play manages to make it through to later stages they often fall short.

It's why teams like VP and NiP (when they were in their downward trend for so long) could bring it closer than they should have been able to in the later stages of tournaments against better but less experienced opponents - mental fortitude is a big factor the further into tournaments you get.

 

[tootsi666]

fnatic was top 2 for more than 12 months. SK is not at that level yet

 

[Confrontation]

Brehs, I said 'to become', they aren't there yet of course.

What I did notice watching this major a lot through GOTV, is the insane equipment usage by SK. Of course all these teams know their flashes, smokes and all that, but this team is just so incredibly drilled that they know like every single smoke, flash, molly at every single spot at every map they had to play. Not only that, but they time it almost all the time to perfection for themselves and/or teammates. It's incredible.

 

[PrematureQuiche]

That final was so incredibly disappointing after the semis were really fun. Feel sad for Hiko, not sure he'll get another chance.

 

[The 18th Letter]

That final was so incredibly disappointing after the semis were really fun. Feel sad for Hiko, not sure he'll get another chance.

Probably not. Pimp can't do half the stuff s1mple can

 

[baby]

That final was so incredibly disappointing after the semis were really fun. Feel sad for Hiko, not sure he'll get another chance.

i dont really know if they should keep hiko much longer. personally ive been kind of iffy about his performance since the rest of gx got banned and screwed his future. seems like he exclusively performs in clutch situations

 

[PrematureQuiche]

i dont really know if they should keep hiko much longer. personally ive been kind of iffy about his performance since the rest of gx got banned and screwed his future. seems like he exclusively performs in clutch situations

Hey baby we should go to the next MLG major together....

 

[rugioh]

SK taking home that cool 500k to make up for the ELEAGUE shittery. They could've taken back around 900k if they didnt get voted out by NA CS this month.

In other news I dug myself out of the trenches after nearly deranking down to MGE on a huge tilt solo queue streak

 

[PrematureQuiche]

I lost 6 in a row before I left and didn't lost my LEM so I did one soloq before I left and finally won. Now I can derank when I get back!

 

[baby]

Hey baby we should go to the next MLG major together....

i cant afford to go all the way to ohio

 

[PrematureQuiche]

i cant afford to go all the way to ohio

baby pls. It'll be beautiful.

 

[Confrontation]

If the next American one is indeed around the same time next year in Columbus again, sign me up as well. Just need to know quite a bit in advance to plan it, no last minute stuff.

I could combine that shit with a Cavs and Blue Jackets game.

 

[rugioh]

I already got tickets to ESL NY if any euros are going to that.

 

[PrematureQuiche]

I already got tickets to ESL NY if any euros are going to that.

I'm going to Texas like two weeks after that to see TayTay otherwise I would be so down for that.

 

[The 18th Letter]

why would anyone purposely go to texas

 

[Speedy Blue Dude]

EDIT: I'm an idiot.

 

[TUSR]

2 soon sbd

 

[Speedy Blue Dude]

2 soon sbd

I actually didn't realize that my joke could be taken as a joke about the recent incident in Dallas. :/ I'm so sorry. I was joking more about the plentiful amount of guns and firearms in Texas, since that's a frequent stereotype about Texas.

I'm sorry for being ignorant and not being mindful of the recent tragedy. If I offended anyone, I'm sorry and I hope you accept my apology.