Counter-Strike: Source, new beta now available

Lafiel said:
It's funny that i'll probably play the game more when this update comes. And it's mostly because of the achievements? :lol

Oh so will I.

I'm no better. :|

*get's back into single file line to radioactive meat grinder*
 
Those weapon achievements are bullshit. They force you to use the bad weapons. I don't even think I've killed 1000 players the whole time I played CS:S.
 
So is there any obvious improvements to the looks? Downloading now. Haven't played this in a while.
 
Honestly wtf. If you do not play this game competitively your opinion is not valid. You think that by making the game more fun it is somehow better.

#1 The graphics have improved that's a + ( Good job on that just make it a little lighter )

#2 To alter the gameplay will be destroying the game. No one asked for the strafing speed to be increased.

#3 Stop catering to simple minded pub stars.

#4 FIX THE ♥♥♥♥ING GAME. Honestly you guys should be more involved in the css competitive community. Try esea.net or cadred.org.

#5 With LANchamp people had hopes that it would bring the competitive scene back but this beta/update will destroy it.

#5 WHAT WAS WRONG with the old scoreboard. Stop fixing ♥♥♥♥ that was never broken.

#6 You actually changed the find server setup. The game should not resemble TF2 in any way

The game was dumbed down to fit mass-market appeal with all this ♥♥♥♥ in MW2 and everything. That's why all the pubstars like it.

im about 400% sure that the people who compete in leagues have brought more people to this game then pub stars did.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1263829

All from the same thread on the steam forums, just reminds me why i have little respect for the "pro's" out there.
 
I love how CS 1.6 is the 3S of the FPS world :lol
I hope they go back to 1.6 hit boxes tho.. Source just doesn't feel right.
 
ChoklitReign said:
Those weapon achievements are bullshit. They force you to use the bad weapons. I don't even think I've killed 1000 players the whole time I played CS:S.

There are no bad weapons, just bad players.

Pctx said:
I love how CS 1.6 is the 3S of the FPS world :lol
I hope they go back to 1.6 hit boxes tho.. Source just doesn't feel right.

I love that people still play CS 1.6...

...so I don't have to play with those people.

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Strafing is not just faster now it is slippery as well. Feels like ice skating just like HL2 does. Character does not stop crisply now.
 
ChoklitReign said:
Those weapon achievements are bullshit. They force you to use the bad weapons. I don't even think I've killed 1000 players the whole time I played CS:S.
It would seriously take me months just to get a "Kill 20 players in Counter Strike: Source" achievement :lol
 
ToyMachine228 said:
I know I'm going to get hate for this BUT...Bring CS: Source to 360. Please.


It hardly takes anything to run this game nowadays. What's the point of moving it there?
 
Pctx said:
I love how CS 1.6 is the 3S of the FPS world :lol
I hope they go back to 1.6 hit boxes tho.. Source just doesn't feel right.

1.6 is the Hyper Fighting version of SF2 of the FPS world.
Source is Capcom Fighting Jam.

What they need to do is fix the tremendous bug list that's out there. The smoke bug where you see them, but they can't see you needs to get the fuck out of the game first and foremost.

Gattsu25 said:
It would seriously take me months just to get a "Kill 20 players in Counter Strike: Source" achievement :lol

Seriously? I can get that in less than 2 mins in some random pub.
 
Stallion Free said:
There isn't HDR, it's still exclusive to the maps that were released post-Lost Coast/Dust.

CS:S was patched to include HDR/bloom a while back (At least two years ago). It's not amazingly good, and maps have to be specifically built to support it, but it's there.
 
Fireye said:
CS:S was patched to include HDR/bloom a while back (At least two years ago). It's not amazingly good, and maps have to be specifically built to support it, but it's there.

Stallion Free said:
It's still exclusive to the maps that were released post-Lost Coast/Dust.

Try reading that.
 
err wtf. It said I had signed up to the beta. But the servers were busy.

So I left it a while, installed CS but now it's saying the beta is full. WTF
 
Diablohead said:
Also the OB Source engine = CSS works on Mac's now.
Ah. It all makes sense now. Still, it's very cool that Valve are leveraging the opportunity of Steam coming to Mac in such an awesome way.

Honestly wtf. If you do not play this game competitively your opinion is not valid. You think that by making the game more fun it is somehow better.
Wow
 
Everdred said:
Why are 1.6 players such cry babies? It's pretty ridiculous.

Mostly because source is an abomination of what made the original great and it's shameful that it carries the same name. Don't get me wrong I played a lot of source too, but it quite literally is in no way an improvement over the original and is generally a different game. It's prettier - that's about it.

Also achievements can go die in a fucking fire. Not just for CS but for every game in general.
 
JoeMartin said:
Mostly because source is an abomination of what made the original great and it's shameful that it carries the same name. Don't get me wrong I played a lot of source too, but it quite literally is in no way an improvement over the original and is generally a different game. It's prettier - that's about it.

Also achievements can go die in a fucking fire. Not just for CS but for every game in general.

It's not a different game though. It's the exact same ruleset. The only difference is some variables.
 
ZZMitch said:

A slew of albeit small but significant gameplay/mechanics changes (that have been enumerated countless times elsewhere on the internets already) that negatively affect the skill ceiling and general real skill potential of the game.

And as much as I hate to use the word, the best way to put it in layman's terms is that they've made the game more "casual" than the original.
 
dygiT said:
It's not a different game though. It's the exact same ruleset. The only difference is some variables.

It's the same game in theory, but when you actually play it, it's entirely different.

Everdred said:
Why are 1.6 players such cry babies? It's pretty ridiculous.

It's called being a purist. Original CS is one of the greatest games ever created next to Quake 3, and when they remake the game with flashier graphics, and on a different engine, all the things that made the game good got lost in translation.
 
dyergram said:
They gotta be working on a CS sequel...tf2 style art please valve :D

I really don't think they'd do the same thing twice over. It doesn't fit with the tone of the game either.
 
OMG, my css addiction will be renewed. I didnt even know about this until now. Going to go play for a few hours. This all sounds awesome even though I'm not even an achievement lover. I hate em but I'm going to get ALL of them in css.
 
"Notice: Thanks for your interest. We've filled the available slots."


WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!?
 
JoeMartin said:
A slew of albeit small but significant gameplay/mechanics changes (that have been enumerated countless times elsewhere on the internets already) that negatively affect the skill ceiling and general real skill potential of the game.

And as much as I hate to use the word, the best way to put it in layman's terms is that they've made the game more "casual" than the original.

Don't forget the fucking barrels. Oh good lord the barrels. Oh well, i've long gotten over it. DoD:Source still pisses me off though. That rage will never subside.
 
Red Scarlet said:
What the hell are those weapon names? Nighthawk? Magnum Sniper Rifle?

??


It's been that way since counter-strike went retail. As long as the game was a free download they could use the real names but once it was sold Valve had to pay to use the real names, and Valve didn't pay want to pay for the licenses.

Except for the Uzi. The company that made Uzi's went out of business so that name is free to use.
 
Igo said:
Don't forget the fucking barrels. Oh good lord the barrels. Oh well, i've long gotten over it. DoD:Source still pisses me off though. That rage will never subside.

I love DoD:Source (and DoD before it) :/ Whats the main gripe people have with it ? Same as CS:S (too "casual") ?
 
vocab said:
It's called being a purist. Original CS is one of the greatest games ever created next to Quake 3, and when they remake the game with flashier graphics, and on a different engine, all the things that made the game good got lost in translation.

That makes me wonder why those people don't just stick to 1.6 and stop bitching about CSS. If you don't like it; don't play it.
 
Moobabe said:
That makes me wonder why those people don't just stick to 1.6 and stop bitching about CSS. If you don't like it; don't play it.

They're all closet graphics whores.

Trying to reason is pointless.
 
Moobabe said:
That makes me wonder why those people don't just stick to 1.6 and stop bitching about CSS. If you don't like it; don't play it.
Ehm? What? :lol
I'm pretty sure most people who whine about it never plays it.
But don't expect the people playing 1.6 to not whine about Source when they completely fucked it up as a "sequel".
 
I apologize for the thread derailment here, but I really need to say something.

I honestly mean no offense to the 1.6 players posting here, in fact I actually applaud you guys for sticking with the original CS for so long, but if it was the goal of the 1.6 community mainstays here to paint your community in the worst possible light, then mission accomplished.

I'm guessing you could probably give two shits, but if you're wondering why the CS community have such a shitty reputation for being assholes (which, for the record, I have only come across once or twice in my time with either iteration of CS) you need look no further than this thread. People are trying to talk about updates to Source, a game which the 1.6 community likes to remind us all on a relatively constant basis that you never touch (or soil your eyes by even looking at) and yet you feel the need to come in here and bitch about changes that have absolutely zero effect on you. Nearly every other post is an anti-Source "Here's why you're a fucking loser if you suggest any changes to the CS formula at all." Christ, even the Halo community was open to compromise
Eventually :P
.

Don't get me wrong, I understand that CS is essentially the poster child for the modding community, what it represents and what it's capable of (creating a world-wide phenomena, as well as a game that helped define what a online PC gaming is and helped pave the way for console gaming). I also understand the love for the game and that sense of community you have, especially since you guys get (and have gotten) a lot of grief for latching onto a game who's time in the lime-light has long passed.

I'm not saying every one of you who avidly plays 1.6 and has posted in this thread have represented your community in a bad way, I'm just saying that very few of you have made any attempt to actually convince people why 1.6 is "superior" without coming off, frankly, like a douche. If someone suggests CS should get...I don't know...regenerating health, instead of saying to them "What? So it can become a pussy-ass Call of Duty clone for the poor little 12-year-old console gamers? Please." you just tell them "Well, CS is known for it's round-focused elimination gameplay, adding regenerating health would more than likely take away from that, and matches would probably become overly long campfests or waiting-games. The game's just not built for it."

I completely understand the idea of being a 1.6 purest, I'm sure that most of the people here on GAF have some iteration of a franchise from their past that they can always go back to or have some of their fondest gaming memories of playing and have his/her feelings about how its the "best" in the series, but I don't see how coming in here and lighting a-flame anyone who praises Source's virtues really accomplishes anything at all, aside from further condemning then 1.6 community's less than stellar mythical reputation.
 
vocab said:
It's called being a purist. Original CS is one of the greatest games ever created next to Quake 3, and when they remake the game with flashier graphics, and on a different engine, all the things that made the game good got lost in translation.

There's a difference between being a purist and being a whiner. It's fine to prefer 1.6 to source (I don't) but a lot of the 1.6 fans seem to sound like this guy:

"Honestly wtf. If you do not play this game competitively your opinion is not valid. You think that by making the game more fun it is somehow better."
 
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