Court set to rule on Apple vs Samsung case in a few minutes
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By reinventing the smartphone
Just one more bullet point about why this system needs fixing.
.....the more I think about it the more I do think reform has a chance of happening. Especially if google ends up getting hit hard with this. With the way lobbying and corporate money are as important as ever to congressmen, if some of these giant tech companies become more and more threatened from companies like apple and similar patent trolls, companies like google and Samsung are going to pour money into coffers in order to get congress to take on the issue. After all for companies like Samsung this is going to directly hurt their bottom line. And the more this keeps going on the more companies that will be recruited onto the Samsung team and less on the apple team.
I have a old droid 2.
Should I be knocking over desks now.. or...?
Haven't been following, but apple won all of the bullshitty patents right? Meaning next they will try to patent holding a phone to your ear to speak..yes..? Something like that?
rage.
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Is android done for?
Should I be knocking over desks now.. or...?
Haven't been following, but apple won all of the bullshitty patents right? Meaning next they will try to patent holding a phone to your ear to speak..yes..? Something like that?
rage.
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Is android done for?
I dont understand this. Apple created this feature (ok, well if anyone wants to find some obscure prototype or an unreleased product, FIRST TO BRING TO MARKET), and just because everyone decided to copy it, it makes it "invalid"? Because every phone uses it? I mean, pinch to zoom is one of the prominent features of iOS products.
guess the worst thing that could happen would be a software 'update' that gets rid of some features. i still want the bounce back thingy back on my S2
How do you feel about iOS notifications? Arguably a much less 'obvious' feature, yet obviously... inspired by Android.
Me personally? I don't think Apple should get into trouble for seeing a software feature in a competing product and trying to introduce something similar into their own.
freenudemacusers
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Theres an app for that
They still are and do.
I wish Samsung would sue them for that, just so Apple can be forced to implement NC in a new and smarter way.
poppabk
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The biotech industry is far better than the software industry. There is a requirement to have very specific uses for discoveries and vagaries will get your patent thrown out quick.
RoadHazard
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They didn't invent pinch-to-zoom. Not even close. They did make it popular in the consumer market, but that shouldn't grant them a monopoly on using it in their products.
You know what the funny thing is, all my professors and supervisors think that it helps with innovation and progresses the industry. I'm pretty sure they all have their names on at least one or two patents.
Using stuff like slide to unlock something used centuries ago.
So should sega be able to sue namco, capcom, and nether realm for using punches in video games since they(I think) were the first to use that in a videogame with heavyweight champs?
It's absurd and how you don't see that I don't know.
BurnOutBrighter
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Fuck this bullshit. This is like SOPA for patent law.
RoadHazard
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On principle I don't think Apple should get sued for it either, but given the way they've been acting... bring it on. Bring it the FUCK on!
Todd Akin is that you?
Sir Abacus
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Zombie James
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You know what's ridiculous? You have companies now patenting genes and DNA. How this helps innovation and progress is beyond me.
actually no. One it was first to invent when these were given, so pinch to zoom is invalid in any sense of the word
we get pushed to patent ideas at work... ideas. Its dumb
See, comments like these make it pretty obvious that you're not really that bothered by the patent system, it's just the fact that Apple is winning them that makes your blood boil. And that's true for a ton of posters in this thread.
What's happening lol
Whos that?
I would love to hear their arguments about how the current laws governing software patents is good for that sector and encouraging for innovation long term?
Especially in light of some of the absurd lawsuits we've seen recently, this one included.
You mean starting them? Win or lose, I'd think die hard Android fans would want retaliation, lol.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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You're being too broad.
Apple didn't 'invent' / popularise / whatever zooming itself, merely a method of zooming that up until that point wasn't prevalent within the market.
If Sega had specifically created a method of administering a punch in a video game, by use of a pressure sensitive controller of something, then you may have a point.
They go in the amazon, smuggle plants and insects out and patent their dna all the time.
If you think the american patent system needs reform now, you're 50 years late.
Sir Abacus
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Most of it would boil down to "there's more than one way to skin a cat". Trying to get around patents can drive just as much innovation. Case in point, slide to unlock patent. Google turned that into a passcode mechanism and bypassed the patent. Voilà, innovation! Instead of everyone sitting around with the dull old slide to unlock feature they've taken it to the next level all because they couldn't copy it.
RoadHazard
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What? I think the patent system is absolutely ridiculous. That's why I don't think either Apple nor Google or Samsung should be sued/suing for this stuff, because it shouldn't be patentable.
Samsung doesn't develop the software for the Nexus, Google does.
That patent shouldnt even got granted. Its like theyre forgetting theres door locks that you have to slide to open it....there
Psychological Intellect
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has it been a few minutes yet?
Its good for companies who want to destroy competition...
brucewaynegretzky
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Ugh, juries.....
This is why my patent prof would rag on juries for extended periods of time. My favorite quote was "You know what the problem with juries is? Think about your last trip to the DMV. There's your jury pool. Have fun."
This is why my patent prof would rag on juries for extended periods of time. My favorite quote was "You know what the problem with juries is? Think about your last trip to the DMV. There's your jury pool. Have fun."
Lets see how the US courts deal with that...
Their main argument is that new ideas, when patented, are able to be shared with the public instead of them being kept a secret. These ideas can then be used in new ways, or be improved upon by other people. They can also be sold or licensed allowing the inventor to reap its benefit.
Who picks these juries?
That is indeed what the liveblog over at Verge said, yes.
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