HellforLeather
Member
Under normal circumstances, sure. This one being fast tracked through the approvals has me a little concerned so yeah, I would probably wait a bit.
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COVID-19 vaccine would you accept it?
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Sakura Doritos
Member
Fuck. No.
Not this first generation stuff. I want to see receipts. I’ll take my chances and wear a mask into places that require one.
Not this first generation stuff. I want to see receipts. I’ll take my chances and wear a mask into places that require one.
Sakura Doritos
Member
That would be Baby Ruth bars sir Chunk.
JareBear: Remastered
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
If I don't get immunity from catching it then I'll take the vaccine to ensure I don't get it and give it to my wife, given she has a compromised immune system.
epicnemesis
Member
First off, I already had COVID, it was mild for me, a couple days of chills and a pretty intense cough that eventually morphed into bronchitis. Life was never in danger or close to in danger but it was annoying.
That said, I would not take the vaccine even if I didn’t get it. The chance of someone younger than 40 without pre existing conditions Dying are insanely low. Let those with complications that increase their chances of death take the vaccine. For 90+% of the population it’s overkill.
That said, I would not take the vaccine even if I didn’t get it. The chance of someone younger than 40 without pre existing conditions Dying are insanely low. Let those with complications that increase their chances of death take the vaccine. For 90+% of the population it’s overkill.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
My mum tried to tell me not to have it because Bill Gates wants to inject chips into people. She's mad, obviously, and has always been mad.
Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
It’s called herd immunity. Vaccines aren’t 100% effective, but depending on how effective it is you can still eradicate a disease if enough people get immunized. Basically the more effective the vaccine and the less virulent or prevalent the disease, the less people you need to immunize. If the vaccine is less effective or the disease
Is more prevalent, you need more people to be vaccinated For it to be effective.
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Fbh
Member
Yes I'd like to have better 5G reception in my bloo.... I mean immunity to the virus.
Honestly though, I don't know. I have no problem with vaccines but I have a problem with rushed products, which is probably what this vaccine will be.
I guess the good news is that I doubt my country would get the first wave so at least we'll have other people beta test it for us.
Honestly though, I don't know. I have no problem with vaccines but I have a problem with rushed products, which is probably what this vaccine will be.
I guess the good news is that I doubt my country would get the first wave so at least we'll have other people beta test it for us.
I always knew Kingsmen was half a documentary. Especially if you combine the Bill Gates thing with the 5g theory.
That said I do understand warryness for limited testing. Vaccine shouldn't be that rushed.
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H4ze
Banned
Obviously you lack the ability to read. Therefore I will explain to you, that I did never say, that Tetanus is a virus, I was talking about vaccines in general. Next time, think first, write second.
Mr Hyde
Member
No, I have achieved natural passive immunity through a freak accident where I broke my back a couple of years ago. It has something to do with a high amount of antibodies with a CFS cell count restructure that makes my immune cells go different ways through the body. It's very complicated but my body has an incredible strong immune system against diseases such as influenza, MS and viruses that infects the nervasystem.
Teletraan1
Banned
My great grandmother died as a result of a swine flu vaccination. I doubt I would take a 1.0 of any vaccine.
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Whataborman
Unconfirmed Member
I won't get a flu shot so it's doubtful that I'd get this.
I definitely wouldn't get it until a year or two after it is introduced. I'd want to see the longer-term side effects before making a final decision. I can see a vaccine being rushed to market and causing some real damage because testing was rushed.
No thanks.
I definitely wouldn't get it until a year or two after it is introduced. I'd want to see the longer-term side effects before making a final decision. I can see a vaccine being rushed to market and causing some real damage because testing was rushed.
No thanks.
Rat Rage
Member
I would take the vaccine immediately out of respect for my surroundings, but ESPECIALLY because I don't want to endanger my family.
You can have covid without symptoms and not know it. Yet, you can still infect other people.
There is a risk that you could have covid with no symptoms and accidentally infect your own parents or grandparents and kill them that way.
The longer you stay without a vaccine, the longer you put others, especially your loved ones at risk.
But hey, I'm not suprised that some far right trump supporters on here doesn't give a shit about their surroundings and only think about themselves.
To anybody else. Take it and do something good. A vaccine is a very very small personal risk, but a huge help for others.
You can have covid without symptoms and not know it. Yet, you can still infect other people.
There is a risk that you could have covid with no symptoms and accidentally infect your own parents or grandparents and kill them that way.
The longer you stay without a vaccine, the longer you put others, especially your loved ones at risk.
But hey, I'm not suprised that some far right trump supporters on here doesn't give a shit about their surroundings and only think about themselves.
To anybody else. Take it and do something good. A vaccine is a very very small personal risk, but a huge help for others.
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Cutty Flam
Banned
There are risks that come with every drug, even caffeine. So why would I, and why should I simply trust it like you? What would be the advantage to that? Do you simply blindly accept things? Blindly accept brand new synthetic creations with minimal, maybe close to no quality research at all that will be injected into your body? It helps 100% right? Why not explain how vaccines work if you are so confident and trusting of their efficacy and lack of repercussions? Certainly you must know them inside and out if you hold such a strong opinion on them
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The Scrivener
Member
Me too man, me too.
Rat Rage
Member
Stupidity, ignorance and selfishness are way more dangerous, though.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
If you think there’s any vaccine that’s gone through the extensive trials pretty much any other medication goes through before approval, think again.
If you think the first Covid vaccines won’t be rushed to the market, think again.
If you think most doctors know more than any person could after a bit of research about any vaccine, think again.
Most doctors don’t know about many drugs more than what they’re told they must know. And when it comes to vaccines... well, you’ve seen what happens to doctors who don’t say exactly what they’re told to say.
This isn’t a conspiracy theory: licenses have been revoked for this, and many of those doctors weren’t even opposed to vaccines tout court.
A vaccine is injected to make your body produce antibodies. We barely even know if Covid antibodies are actually protective against Covid and if they are, for how long. Making your body produce antibodies that aren’t protective would be useless. We’re not talking about autism here, we’re talking about stuff that may be rushed to the market without good knowledge of its actual effects. By all means get the first vaccine on the market if it makes you feel safer, but I’m not sure I’d trust a vaccine against a disease that’s not even fully understood (most diseases we have effective vaccines against were observed and studies for centuries before the vaccine was made).
If you think the first Covid vaccines won’t be rushed to the market, think again.
If you think most doctors know more than any person could after a bit of research about any vaccine, think again.
Most doctors don’t know about many drugs more than what they’re told they must know. And when it comes to vaccines... well, you’ve seen what happens to doctors who don’t say exactly what they’re told to say.
This isn’t a conspiracy theory: licenses have been revoked for this, and many of those doctors weren’t even opposed to vaccines tout court.
A vaccine is injected to make your body produce antibodies. We barely even know if Covid antibodies are actually protective against Covid and if they are, for how long. Making your body produce antibodies that aren’t protective would be useless. We’re not talking about autism here, we’re talking about stuff that may be rushed to the market without good knowledge of its actual effects. By all means get the first vaccine on the market if it makes you feel safer, but I’m not sure I’d trust a vaccine against a disease that’s not even fully understood (most diseases we have effective vaccines against were observed and studies for centuries before the vaccine was made).
The Scrivener
Member
I heard today
I'm a teacher, teachers will probably have to have it compulsory too.
I don't think if I tell them I'm fine, I take vitamin D3 and zinc, and Bill Gates wants to depopulate my ass, they will allow me to keep my job.
Cutty Flam
Banned
It depends on the situation, really....If you’re going to call me out for not accepting a vaccine, why not put your argument in full view instead of cowardly prodding at those who hold a different view than yourself? Why not attack the issue head on like a man? You want to insult someone, come out and straight do it motherfucker
What are you trying to say Rat
Nymphae
Banned
I have a minor skin condition for which I semi-regularly take an oral medication which clears it up. I'll preface this by saying I don't think my family doctor is dumb and he's been my trusted doctor since I was born. I went in to see him a few years ago after some time off from taking the treatment, and he was like so what are you taking for this? I told him what I normally take (it should be on file but whatever), and he googled the medicine right in front of me and read one of the first pages summaries of the drug. Mentioned the risks that he was reading right off the site, and I'm like, yeah ok you've been giving me this for years. He's like are you sure you really want to take this though, here are the potential risks. I'm like, you're the fucking expert man how the fuck do I know, maybe we should do tests or something? You're the fucking doctor. Again, I've been taking this for years at your direction, so hook me the fuck up I guess?
Then like a year after that, I go in for more, and he's like oh wait there's a new one I want you to take instead that is potentially less harmful. I asked if it was more or less effective than the previous treatment, shrugged shoulders. Will the condition clear up permanently? Shrugged shoulders. They learn the accepted wisdom and repeat it, and I'd wager most of them don't really care to understand a lot of what goes on in the profession, when they can wear the white coat and point at peer reviewed studies and say well these guys say this works.
Another time many years ago I went to him because I was feeling pretty depressed and I was at the point where I wanted to know what my options were. I walked in and at the first word, he's like here you go take these pills. I was a little taken aback by this and decided not to take them (doing great now thanks for asking). I just feel like everyone is putting their trust in the guy above them without understanding anything. I can't stand drawn out internet arguments about this stuff anymore either because this is how everyone operates - it's googling battles and my trusted source can beat up your trusted source.
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Rat Rage
Member
It's not directly aimed at you. Chill out. People should be worried about other things more and not drugs, which, while being not perfect, have to go through a ridiculous amount of safety procedures. I'd argue, your avearge vitamin is more dangerous than a vaccine, because who knows what's really in there (and who is testing it anyway).
BigBooper
Member
Probably, but I wouldn't want to be in the first year of people doing it. Give it a while.
I've only gotten the flu vaccine twice in the past 25 years and never had the flu during all that time, so I'm not all gungho on vaccines, but I'm not too conspiratorial about them either.
I've only gotten the flu vaccine twice in the past 25 years and never had the flu during all that time, so I'm not all gungho on vaccines, but I'm not too conspiratorial about them either.
BigBooper
Member
Lol. You might need to shop around for a new doc.
Nymphae
Banned
He's the general practitioner in the small town I grew up in, and like I said the guy isn't retarded, I genuinely believe he is a smart guy who has the best intentions for the people of the community. But I feel like most family doctors are probably going to operate the way he does. He simply gives you what the studies say works for whatever it is you have, without having detailed knowledge of how they work or how it's going to affect your body specifically (obviously they have some knowledge of their patients and try to tailor treatments for them, but this only goes so far) Take this and we'll see what happens, here's the risks the drug companies have told me are present.
Did you forget to turn on your brain today? Just asking
daveonezero
Banned
From what I've researched/heard SARS and MERS vaccines were ineffective and sometimes deadly to animals. There isn't one for these diseases so why would they be able to make one that is effective for this disease?
Of course it will be fast tracked and "guaranteed" safe. But there will be no repercussions if it isn't as manufacturers are not liable for injury caused by vaccines.
Also there are already multiple strains. No injection will protect against all of them and it will probably be a yearly thing just like the flu.
No thanks. I"ll take my chances being ostracized from society.
Of course it will be fast tracked and "guaranteed" safe. But there will be no repercussions if it isn't as manufacturers are not liable for injury caused by vaccines.
Also there are already multiple strains. No injection will protect against all of them and it will probably be a yearly thing just like the flu.
No thanks. I"ll take my chances being ostracized from society.
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Nymphae
Banned
Why is that exactly?
V4skunk
Banned
I also personally know some one who had pneumonia and tested positive for covid19 and spent 2 weeks in critical care. You don't even get pneumonia from covid19.
And the two people you knew felt pretty bad? lol like with what symptoms? Cold/flu lol?
How come flu deaths are incredibly low along with cancer and heart attacks etc?
And if you watch the tv! Yes you are a brainwashed leftist.
So basically you had bronchitis but because there is no test that can specifically detect covid19! They told you you had corona virus?
Corona virus is what a common cold is................
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daveonezero
Banned
The court
National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program - Wikipedia
The ruling saying pharmaceutical companies are protected.
No Pharma Liability? No Vaccine Mandates - NVIC Newsletter
Unless we take a stand, the government can legally use police powers to force every American to get hundreds of vaccinations.
Basically the federal government uses taxpayers money to pay off anyone who brings up a case.
Why the Government Pays Billions to People Who Claim Injury by Vaccines
A little-known deal protects drug companies in the U.S. from being sued—and feeds conspiracy theories in the process.
www.theatlantic.com
Inside 'vaccine court,' where the US government pays millions to people who say they were harmed by vaccines
Vaccine court is funded by a 75¢ cent tax on every childhood vaccine administered in the US. Most cases stem from bad needle jabs.
www.businessinsider.com
V4skunk
Banned
Must drugs even say on the small print that if you die/have a bad reaction, that they are not liable.The court
National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
The ruling saying pharmaceutical companies are protected.
No Pharma Liability? No Vaccine Mandates - NVIC Newsletter
Unless we take a stand, the government can legally use police powers to force every American to get hundreds of vaccinations.www.nvic.org
Basically the federal government uses taxpayers money to pay off anyone who brings up a case.
Why the Government Pays Billions to People Who Claim Injury by Vaccines
A little-known deal protects drug companies in the U.S. from being sued—and feeds conspiracy theories in the process.
Inside 'vaccine court,' where the US government pays millions to people who say they were harmed by vaccines
Vaccine court is funded by a 75¢ cent tax on every childhood vaccine administered in the US. Most cases stem from bad needle jabs.
Insurance wont insure damage/death from vaccines or none ionising radiation. Work it out!
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Dr Bass
Member
To answer the question, I would get it, sure. Look at what the Polio vaccine did to fight that horrific disease.
However I just wanted to quote this post as I think the highlighted typo is hilarious given the subject matter. I'm also kind of a nerd though so ...
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daveonezero
Banned
Yeah I'm not surprised. Yet the focus is still on these pharmaceuticals and not on actually being healthy. Been like that for years.
Nevermind After Reading this i got the answer
Nymphae
Banned
A woman I work with told me recently that one of her infants was killed shortly after receiving a vaccine many years ago. This made her wary of getting any more for future children, and when she said she didn't want one with the next child, and related the story about her previous child, the doctors said "oh we changed the formula", oh that's good to know thanks doc. She insisted that she didn't want it, and she told me she was basically pressured into getting it, told that her child would not be allowed into school if they didn't get it, so she caved. This child has autism. Related? I can't say.
nemiroff
Gold Member
What year is it? /imagine what year is it pic here
You don't understand how vaccines work.. _Some_ vaccines even have a "surprisingly" low chance of protecting individuals from a large dose of viruses. However, a solid vaccine PROGRAM using the same vaccine (f.ex) can be up to 100% effective over time if everyone leave the egotistical thoughts behind and just participate to build herd immunity.
It's even more important with Covid-19 since several reports suggests that getting it may not activate effective immune response to protect you from getting it again - and again.
Last report I saw yesterday said that even in the hardest hit areas only 2 out of 100 had a detectable immune response. An effective vaccine could change that.
You don't understand how vaccines work.. _Some_ vaccines even have a "surprisingly" low chance of protecting individuals from a large dose of viruses. However, a solid vaccine PROGRAM using the same vaccine (f.ex) can be up to 100% effective over time if everyone leave the egotistical thoughts behind and just participate to build herd immunity.
It's even more important with Covid-19 since several reports suggests that getting it may not activate effective immune response to protect you from getting it again - and again.
Last report I saw yesterday said that even in the hardest hit areas only 2 out of 100 had a detectable immune response. An effective vaccine could change that.
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Ar¢tos
Member
I'll take even an mRNA vaccine if I have the chance.
Not taking a vaccine just puts other people in risk (like people that can't take it because they are allergic or immunocompromised people that have much less benefit from a vaccine.
The higher percentage of vaccinated people, the faster we can get rid of this disease.
And for those that already had the disease, don't think that you are immune for the rest of your life now, this isn't measles. All other coronaviruses only give you short term immunity (months - couple of years), there is no reason to think this one will be different.
The vaccine will require periodical booster shoots whenever one exists (assuming it's not a permanent RNA vaccine, but since no RNA vaccine has been approved for human usage, we can forget those).
Not taking a vaccine just puts other people in risk (like people that can't take it because they are allergic or immunocompromised people that have much less benefit from a vaccine.
The higher percentage of vaccinated people, the faster we can get rid of this disease.
And for those that already had the disease, don't think that you are immune for the rest of your life now, this isn't measles. All other coronaviruses only give you short term immunity (months - couple of years), there is no reason to think this one will be different.
The vaccine will require periodical booster shoots whenever one exists (assuming it's not a permanent RNA vaccine, but since no RNA vaccine has been approved for human usage, we can forget those).
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Do you want to question the scientist that makes your Tylenol?
epicnemesis
Member
Well I was asked and volunteered to participate into an antibodies study, so it’s more than that, they saw something in my results.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
For how a vaccine works, skip forward to 38:32 (edit, sorry, just jump to around 37:00 and let it play - the player is giving me different values each time): https://www.pbs.org/video/decoding-covid-19-hrfhb2/
In short it tricks the immune system into thinking it's being attacked by the virus (or whatever is the target) so that your body will learn how to combat it.
Vaccines are not dangerous. Without them there would still be many hideous diseases around. People would still widely get the measles and the chickenpox. I have been taking the flu vaccine every year for four or five years.
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Cutty Flam
Banned
Yeah, actually I do. Because you or I or anyone else can die from orally administering something as simple as a Tylenol
But I suppose you think you’re never going to be affected by anything. You’re immortal right, hamster? Even though it has happened to many others, death from over the counter drugs, your body will never react negatively to good old FDA approved drugs and such, correct?
I haven’t taken NSAIDs since the day I found out that even something as simple as an anti-inflammatory can kill. And at the time, I needed them greatly. But I refused to be foolish and chance death over a small pill. Anyone who will take one is putting their life on the line. It’s how you have to look at these things. I don’t gamble with my life like that and I’m not a little bitch who will take a whittle pilly willy to ease the little but of minor pain I feel like some of you spineless brain dead bitches out there. I’ll find a remedy that brings health and livelihood, not takes it away. I’ll cone up with a plan that will ensure I come out of a situation alright in time with my efforts to improve and get better. Aint saying no names at all but I hate when people rob themselves of true health. And to be very clear I don’t hate the people who in their own decision rob themselves of it, I hate the system that never taught them or guided them to making better choices. Those who found health had to want it badly and seek it themselves. In a perfect world, we would be taught correcly in school very early how to fix problems that we need to know in life
You can reduce pain and swelling with curcumin and black pepper. There are studies showing it is just as effective as an ibuprofen and you will mot experience any detrimental side effects
Trusting the FDA is the sure sign of a fool. I’ll say that outright
COVID-19 will not be cured, it’s likely the worst flu virus we can catch now, but think about the common cold. All we can really do is treat, we’ll always be susceptible to catching it unless we start to live better and healthier—change our ways in terms of diet, exercise, reducing stress, understanding the body and mind and our true needs
That’s all I have to say for now
haxan7
Banned
Almost liked your post until I got to the second to last paragraph. Work on yourself and you can do better.
JareBear: Remastered
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Gotta love the random political daggers jammed into otherwise sensical posts
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