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[Rat Rage]

Gotta love the random political jabs jammed into otherwise sensical posts

You're probably right. I think that was a bit childish of me. I may have interacted too much with matt404au, which has had a bad influence on me. I promise to do better from now on.

 

[Tell_men]

I’ll go after Nobody_Important

If it doesn’t kill the Democrat, sure I’ll take it.

 

[Rentahamster]

You're probably right. I think that was a bit childish of me. I may have interacted too much with mat404au, which has had a bad influence on me. I promise to do better from now on.

Not trying to pile on, but a bit of advice: don't blame others or make excuses in this particular situation.

 

[Tell_men]

In truth, I’d sign up to be one of the first. These vaccines they’ll test on thousands of people before they make it available to the public.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Yeah, of course, but I probably wouldn't be first in line, either.

 

[Clockwork5]

Of course I would get a vaccine for the virus that has completely crippled global society.
Although, if I started having delusions about interviewing the medical researchers responsible for developing vaccines I think I would probably focus on my paranoia and lack of critical thinking skills first.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Of course I would get a vaccine for the virus that has completely crippled global society.
Although, if I started having delusions about interviewing the medical researchers responsible for developing vaccines I think I would probably focus on my paranoia and lack of critical thinking skills first.

No you wouldn't, because that would be critical thinking.

 

[Makariel]

Of course.

 

[MaestroMike]

not sure i barely ever take medications even advil, but I did take flu shots in the past because I was offered a $5 Target gift card. if theres a gift card in it I might consider taking it (after other ppl have already taken it & seem alright)

 

[Mod of War]

I would take the vaccine immediately out of respect for my surroundings, but ESPECIALLY because I don't want to endanger my family.

You can have covid without symptoms and not know it. Yet, you can still infect other people.

There is a risk that you could have covid with no symptoms and accidentally infect your own parents or grandparents and kill them that way.

The longer you stay without a vaccine, the longer you put others, especially your loved ones at risk.

But hey, I'm not suprised that some far right trump supporters on here doesn't give a shit about their surroundings and only think about themselves.

To anybody else. Take it and do something good. A vaccine is a very very small personal risk, but a huge help for others.

Data:

The average anti-vaxxer is a liberal, middle-aged Midwestern man

Meet your average American anti-vaxxer.

qz.com

"Liberal: 60% of anti-vaxxers describe their political leaning as liberal."

Now move on from these petty political attacks in the Off Topic forum.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Now move on from these petty attacks in the Off Topic forum.

...to the Politics forum, where petty attacks are welcome!

 

[Mod of War]

...to the Politics forum, where petty attacks are welcome!

There are places where even a demi dare not walk with mortals.

And I forgot to write political, good call.

 

[Susurrus]

I'm military, I likely wouldn't have a choice, but it wouldn't be the first time (love my anthrax shots).

But yes, I would. What y'all are forgetting is Corona isn't a new virus, this strand is just an evolution of one, so they aren't starting from scratch, such as previous versions of it, SARS and MERS where they've already got progress, which is why they can make faster progress.

 

[MetalAlien]

I will defend myself if anyone tries.

 

[WhiskeyDiver]

There is no virus here you fool. You can see with your own eyes in reality that NOBODY is even suffering just even minor symptoms any where in the world.
And it is also FACT that what ever Covid19 is, is man made and from China.
Wake up you fruit cake.
Also before you talk shit about knowing some one who got/died from pneumonia! You don't even get pneumonia from supposed Covid19! You get a pulmonary edema.
Try harder comrade and keep up with the tv programming.

 

[DragoonKain]

If it goes through the trials and is proven effective, sure.

Quick trivia: The term vaccine comes from the Latin term "vaccinus" which means "from the cow." That was chosen because a British physician discovered that milkmaids weren't getting smallpox for some reason. Eventually it was discovered that anyone infected with cowpox couldn't get smallpox. He created the world's first vaccine in 1796.

Vaccines work. They're the only reason smallpox is totally eradicated and to this day it's the only virus that has ever been totally eradicated on earth.

Man I'm fucking glad I wasn't alive when that shit was around, it's horrifying to look at.

 

[The Lunch Legend]

na, I'm good.

 

[I_D]

I'd wait a bit first, to make sure there aren't any crazy side-effects, but it would basically be the same thing as a flu-shot; so yes, I'd get one.

The real question is whether to get one year after year, because this virus will obviously be with us for quite a while. Getting vaccines gets annoying year after year. I'm sure I'd end up being lazy eventually.

 

[zombrex]

I am pro vaccination but I would not except any vaccine I believe has been hastily rushed without a concern for any potential side effects. there is a huge incentive for any companies, individuals and even nations to suppress the negative effects for fame and fortune.

 

[triplestation]

take the vaccine they said it will be fun they said

 

[Makariel]

take the vaccine they said it will be fun they said

Is that an anti - vax demo?

 

[Texas Pride]

I'd think on a forum built around video games people would know better than to get the first batch of consoles before the peasants have playtested them. Well it applies to vaccines too.

 

[Fuz]

Depends on *when*.

Not without adequate testing. I know everyone wants it right now, but proper medical testing takes time, and there's no substitute for time.

 

[darkinstinct]

I'll fight for my life if some cunt tries sticking me with autism.
Currently half the people i know will refuse it and plan on getting violent if it is enforced.


I invite you pussy's to come try it.

Anti-vaxxers already have autism, though.

 

[Phase]

Not a chance. A new type of vaccine never before used, being fast tracked without proper testing. Nah bruh.

If you're in the USA you should know that vaccine's are categorized as biologics and as such are not tested/held to the same standards pharmaceutical drugs are, and the producers of vaccines are legally exempt from liability unless you prove the company explicitly knew it would cause harm and pushed it anyway, for which the USA has a vaccine court.

Back before the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 there were very few vaccinations required and administered, simply because it wasn't a viable business model with how much they had to consistently payout in damages. Nowadays there are over 70 on the immunization schedule of the CDC. It's no coincidence the amount of vaccines has continued growing since the implementation of this act. It's a gold mine for vaccine manufactures, especially if you can get it on the CDC's schedule. No liability, no need to advertise. Money baby. Money.

So in light of knowing this along with knowing vaccines have a very low rate of success anyway, no I will not be vaccinating myself.

 

[lukilladog]

I think nobody is gonna ask if you want the vaccine or not, but if it was optional, of course I´d take it, I´m only alive because of science.

And if they make a vaccine for whatever is happening to V4skunk, I´ll take it too.

 

[Kenpachii]

That elon musks beta brain chip is working mighty fine it seems.

 

[mr.dilya]

Nah. Not necessary.

 

[Makariel]

I'd think on a forum built around video games people would know better than to get the first batch of consoles before the peasants have playtested them. Well it applies to vaccines too.

I have a PS4 from the first batch, no problems, my 1st generation Ryzen cpu on the first generation of AM4 Mainboards is also working brilliantly. So whatever analogy you were trying to draw falls a little flat in 2020. We're not it 1998 where every LCD Display can come with a bunch of dead pixels and consumer electronics are not comparable with drugs or vaccines

But you don't need to take the first batch either way, since there will be enough volunteers for it.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

I have a minor skin condition for which I semi-regularly take an oral medication which clears it up. I'll preface this by saying I don't think my family doctor is dumb and he's been my trusted doctor since I was born. I went in to see him a few years ago after some time off from taking the treatment, and he was like so what are you taking for this? I told him what I normally take (it should be on file but whatever), and he googled the medicine right in front of me and read one of the first pages summaries of the drug. Mentioned the risks that he was reading right off the site, and I'm like, yeah ok you've been giving me this for years. He's like are you sure you really want to take this though, here are the potential risks. I'm like, you're the fucking expert man how the fuck do I know, maybe we should do tests or something? You're the fucking doctor. Again, I've been taking this for years at your direction, so hook me the fuck up I guess?

Then like a year after that, I go in for more, and he's like oh wait there's a new one I want you to take instead that is potentially less harmful. I asked if it was more or less effective than the previous treatment, shrugged shoulders. Will the condition clear up permanently? Shrugged shoulders. They learn the accepted wisdom and repeat it, and I'd wager most of them don't really care to understand a lot of what goes on in the profession, when they can wear the white coat and point at peer reviewed studies and say well these guys say this works.

Another time many years ago I went to him because I was feeling pretty depressed and I was at the point where I wanted to know what my options were. I walked in and at the first word, he's like here you go take these pills. I was a little taken aback by this and decided not to take them (doing great now thanks for asking). I just feel like everyone is putting their trust in the guy above them without understanding anything. I can't stand drawn out internet arguments about this stuff anymore either because this is how everyone operates - it's googling battles and my trusted source can beat up your trusted source.

You're not far off the truth here.

I'll say this though: a doctor Googling stuff isn't necessarily a sign that they're ignorant. Drugs have become so many, so widespread, and so complex, that it's basically impossible for a good doctor to know very well more than a few dozen medications. So many contraindications, interactions and side effects for any drug. A quick check before writing a prescription is never a bad thing. A doctor knowing every detail about every drug belongs in pre-World War II novels, or in TV shows. Unfortunately TV shows about the medical world got us used to doctors having extremely obscure notions at the tip of their fingers, only to spend an entire episode checking the obvious online or on books. It doesn't work like that.

This is the age of Google. No way for a single doctor to know and remember everything, especially about drugs. Also patients will always Google drug effects, side effects and contraindications. Better be prepared to use the same tool to have a discussion with patients on even ground. The most important difference between a patient and a doctor is that the doctor should know how to put together all the pieces better than the Internet. A doctor should also know how to make a more accurate Google research on medical matters.

It's true, however, that a lot of professionals often act like push-button physicians and never think outside what they've been taught, and that once a doctor has made up his mind about a diagnosis, it can be hard to make hom look at any other evidence. I remember the introduction to the excellent book How doctors think, which tells the story of a woman with celiac disease spending years finding a diagnosis that you'd think most doctors would have suspected much earlier. I also remember one Italian woman who went to work in the UK, had some blood tests, and was told she had iron-deficiency anemia. She was actually the carrier of a beta-thalassemic trait, which is very common in Italy, and that can cause blood cell alterations similar to iron-deficiency anemia. No Italian doctor would be so easily misguided in such a case, but a UK doctor was easily tricked by his own bias.

 

[Old Retro]

How would the public even know if there is a "version 2.0" of a vaccine if and when it is released? It's not like we would be told. I already refuse to take flu vaccines simply because they make me sick and I've been a relentless germaphobe for years. Haven't had the flu this millennium. Having said that, I'd be reluctant to get the first batch of covidvax.

 

[Texas Pride]

I have a PS4 from the first batch, no problems, my 1st generation Ryzen cpu on the first generation of AM4 Mainboards is also working brilliantly. So whatever analogy you were trying to draw falls a little flat in 2020. We're not it 1998 where every LCD Display can come with a bunch of dead pixels and consumer electronics are not comparable with drugs or vaccines

But you don't need to take the first batch either way, since there will be enough volunteers for it.

It was attempt at hubris which most people got. Poor you for taking the analogy literally but the fact remains taking the first of anything vaccine related with the way they're rushing shit through is nothing short of fucking stupid. You do you I'll do me and hey if you're vaccinated then ya got nothing to worry about from those that don't choose to take it right? That's the rub here.

 

[Singular7]

Sure, in 30 years, after the initial kill-cycle and bugs are found.

Or not .. bypassing the body filters and going straight into the bloodstream? Eh. I'll let all the Democrats test it first.