Rat Rage
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You're probably right. I think that was a bit childish of me. I may have interacted too much with matt404au, which has had a bad influence on me. I promise to do better from now on.
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COVID-19 vaccine would you accept it?
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You're probably right. I think that was a bit childish of me. I may have interacted too much with matt404au, which has had a bad influence on me. I promise to do better from now on.
Tell_men
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Not trying to pile on, but a bit of advice: don't blame others or make excuses in this particular situation.
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Deleted member 17706
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Yeah, of course, but I probably wouldn't be first in line, either.
Clockwork5
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Of course I would get a vaccine for the virus that has completely crippled global society.
Although, if I started having delusions about interviewing the medical researchers responsible for developing vaccines I think I would probably focus on my paranoia and lack of critical thinking skills first.
Although, if I started having delusions about interviewing the medical researchers responsible for developing vaccines I think I would probably focus on my paranoia and lack of critical thinking skills first.
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No you wouldn't, because that would be critical thinking.
MaestroMike
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not sure i barely ever take medications even advil, but I did take flu shots in the past because I was offered a $5 Target gift card. if theres a gift card in it I might consider taking it (after other ppl have already taken it & seem alright)
Data:
The average anti-vaxxer is probably not who you think she is
A middle age, Midwestern man with high-school diploma, low income and a tendency not to think his vote matters much: this is the identity of the average American anti-vaxxer, according to a survey run by real-time consumer insight firm CivicScience. The report assessed participants’ perception...qz.com
"Liberal: 60% of anti-vaxxers describe their political leaning as liberal."
Now move on from these petty political attacks in the Off Topic forum.
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...to the Politics forum, where petty attacks are welcome!
There are places where even a demi dare not walk with mortals.
And I forgot to write political, good call.
Susurrus
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I'm military, I likely wouldn't have a choice, but it wouldn't be the first time (love my anthrax shots).
But yes, I would. What y'all are forgetting is Corona isn't a new virus, this strand is just an evolution of one, so they aren't starting from scratch, such as previous versions of it, SARS and MERS where they've already got progress, which is why they can make faster progress.
But yes, I would. What y'all are forgetting is Corona isn't a new virus, this strand is just an evolution of one, so they aren't starting from scratch, such as previous versions of it, SARS and MERS where they've already got progress, which is why they can make faster progress.
MetalAlien
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I will defend myself if anyone tries.
WhiskeyDiver
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DragoonKain
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If it goes through the trials and is proven effective, sure.
Quick trivia: The term vaccine comes from the Latin term "vaccinus" which means "from the cow." That was chosen because a British physician discovered that milkmaids weren't getting smallpox for some reason. Eventually it was discovered that anyone infected with cowpox couldn't get smallpox. He created the world's first vaccine in 1796.
Vaccines work. They're the only reason smallpox is totally eradicated and to this day it's the only virus that has ever been totally eradicated on earth.
Man I'm fucking glad I wasn't alive when that shit was around, it's horrifying to look at.
Quick trivia: The term vaccine comes from the Latin term "vaccinus" which means "from the cow." That was chosen because a British physician discovered that milkmaids weren't getting smallpox for some reason. Eventually it was discovered that anyone infected with cowpox couldn't get smallpox. He created the world's first vaccine in 1796.
Vaccines work. They're the only reason smallpox is totally eradicated and to this day it's the only virus that has ever been totally eradicated on earth.
Man I'm fucking glad I wasn't alive when that shit was around, it's horrifying to look at.
I_D
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I'd wait a bit first, to make sure there aren't any crazy side-effects, but it would basically be the same thing as a flu-shot; so yes, I'd get one.
The real question is whether to get one year after year, because this virus will obviously be with us for quite a while. Getting vaccines gets annoying year after year. I'm sure I'd end up being lazy eventually.
The real question is whether to get one year after year, because this virus will obviously be with us for quite a while. Getting vaccines gets annoying year after year. I'm sure I'd end up being lazy eventually.
triplestation
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take the vaccine they said it will be fun they said
Makariel
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Texas Pride
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I'd think on a forum built around video games people would know better than to get the first batch of consoles before the peasants have playtested them. Well it applies to vaccines too.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Anti-vaxxers already have autism, though.
Phase
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Not a chance. A new type of vaccine never before used, being fast tracked without proper testing. Nah bruh.
If you're in the USA you should know that vaccine's are categorized as biologics and as such are not tested/held to the same standards pharmaceutical drugs are, and the producers of vaccines are legally exempt from liability unless you prove the company explicitly knew it would cause harm and pushed it anyway, for which the USA has a vaccine court.
Back before the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 there were very few vaccinations required and administered, simply because it wasn't a viable business model with how much they had to consistently payout in damages. Nowadays there are over 70 on the immunization schedule of the CDC. It's no coincidence the amount of vaccines has continued growing since the implementation of this act. It's a gold mine for vaccine manufactures, especially if you can get it on the CDC's schedule. No liability, no need to advertise. Money baby. Money.
So in light of knowing this along with knowing vaccines have a very low rate of success anyway, no I will not be vaccinating myself.
If you're in the USA you should know that vaccine's are categorized as biologics and as such are not tested/held to the same standards pharmaceutical drugs are, and the producers of vaccines are legally exempt from liability unless you prove the company explicitly knew it would cause harm and pushed it anyway, for which the USA has a vaccine court.
Back before the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 there were very few vaccinations required and administered, simply because it wasn't a viable business model with how much they had to consistently payout in damages. Nowadays there are over 70 on the immunization schedule of the CDC. It's no coincidence the amount of vaccines has continued growing since the implementation of this act. It's a gold mine for vaccine manufactures, especially if you can get it on the CDC's schedule. No liability, no need to advertise. Money baby. Money.
So in light of knowing this along with knowing vaccines have a very low rate of success anyway, no I will not be vaccinating myself.
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lukilladog
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Kenpachii
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That elon musks beta brain chip is working mighty fine it seems.
Makariel
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I have a PS4 from the first batch, no problems, my 1st generation Ryzen cpu on the first generation of AM4 Mainboards is also working brilliantly. So whatever analogy you were trying to draw falls a little flat in 2020. We're not it 1998 where every LCD Display can come with a bunch of dead pixels and consumer electronics are not comparable with drugs or vaccines
But you don't need to take the first batch either way, since there will be enough volunteers for it.
NeoIkaruGAF
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You're not far off the truth here.
I'll say this though: a doctor Googling stuff isn't necessarily a sign that they're ignorant. Drugs have become so many, so widespread, and so complex, that it's basically impossible for a good doctor to know very well more than a few dozen medications. So many contraindications, interactions and side effects for any drug. A quick check before writing a prescription is never a bad thing. A doctor knowing every detail about every drug belongs in pre-World War II novels, or in TV shows. Unfortunately TV shows about the medical world got us used to doctors having extremely obscure notions at the tip of their fingers, only to spend an entire episode checking the obvious online or on books. It doesn't work like that.
This is the age of Google. No way for a single doctor to know and remember everything, especially about drugs. Also patients will always Google drug effects, side effects and contraindications. Better be prepared to use the same tool to have a discussion with patients on even ground. The most important difference between a patient and a doctor is that the doctor should know how to put together all the pieces better than the Internet. A doctor should also know how to make a more accurate Google research on medical matters.
It's true, however, that a lot of professionals often act like push-button physicians and never think outside what they've been taught, and that once a doctor has made up his mind about a diagnosis, it can be hard to make hom look at any other evidence. I remember the introduction to the excellent book How doctors think, which tells the story of a woman with celiac disease spending years finding a diagnosis that you'd think most doctors would have suspected much earlier. I also remember one Italian woman who went to work in the UK, had some blood tests, and was told she had iron-deficiency anemia. She was actually the carrier of a beta-thalassemic trait, which is very common in Italy, and that can cause blood cell alterations similar to iron-deficiency anemia. No Italian doctor would be so easily misguided in such a case, but a UK doctor was easily tricked by his own bias.
Old Retro
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How would the public even know if there is a "version 2.0" of a vaccine if and when it is released? It's not like we would be told. I already refuse to take flu vaccines simply because they make me sick and I've been a relentless germaphobe for years. Haven't had the flu this millennium. Having said that, I'd be reluctant to get the first batch of covidvax.
Texas Pride
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I have a PS4 from the first batch, no problems, my 1st generation Ryzen cpu on the first generation of AM4 Mainboards is also working brilliantly. So whatever analogy you were trying to draw falls a little flat in 2020. We're not it 1998 where every LCD Display can come with a bunch of dead pixels and consumer electronics are not comparable with drugs or vaccines
But you don't need to take the first batch either way, since there will be enough volunteers for it.
It was attempt at hubris which most people got. Poor you for taking the analogy literally but the fact remains taking the first of anything vaccine related with the way they're rushing shit through is nothing short of fucking stupid. You do you I'll do me and hey if you're vaccinated then ya got nothing to worry about from those that don't choose to take it right? That's the rub here.
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