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[M1chl]

Fuck the masks. YOU want to wear them, go ahead. YOU want to be a dumbass and wear them in 100 degree heat while walking down the street, go ahead. YOU want to wear them while you’re inside your car, go ahead. YOU have a pre-existing condition, wear a face shield/something else or just stay home.
Get the fuck out of the way of those trying to live/rebuild their lives. Just fuck off, please.

Yeah good thing that's what I am advocating for, this is not a "shut down the country" type of post, just let it open, but wear the mask, that's it.

 

[Cycom]

Yeah good thing that's what I am advocating for, this is not a "shut down the country" type of post, just let it open, but wear the mask, that's it.

No, you’re advocating for people to wear masks.

 

[M1chl]

No, you’re advocating for people to wear masks.

Yeah and that stops people who trying to live/rebuild their lives in what way exactly? And don't worry I don't care about that beyond the EU reach, because you know Schengen. Also if you are that insecure, that you feel like I have some power over you, then... I don't live your life, I am just saying what I experienced and how I feel about personal protection till there is going to be some vaccination, if you don't like it, live in that "free world country bullshit" as much as you want. With that said I hope you are going to be fine, same with your family and close ones.

 

[diffusionx]

Yeah and that stops people who trying to live/rebuild their lives in what way exactly? And don't worry I don't care about that beyond the EU reach, because you know Schengen. Also if you are that insecure, that you feel like I have some power over you, then... I don't live your life, I am just saying what I experienced and how I feel about personal protection till there is going to be some vaccination, if you don't like it, live in that "free world country bullshit" as much as you want. With that said I hope you are going to be fine, same with your family and close ones.

It is here I would point out the various detrimental psychological effects of this tyrant mask regime. It is intensely depersonalizing, it really hurts with basic interaction as it puts a physical barrier between people (humans are, at their core, a species of face-readers), it affects handicapped people (e.g. hard of hearing), it constantly reminds people at all times that the flu-like virus is out there (keeping them scared and paranoid and unable to move on), and it is in effect a massive power grab by the government, demanding that we all wear this at all times, even times when it is proven that it doesn't matter. These are not small things and not a small deal. But I understand why you would not accept this argument.

 

[Cycom]

Yeah and that stops people who trying to live/rebuild their lives in what way exactly? And don't worry I don't care about that beyond the EU reach, because you know Schengen. Also if you are that insecure, that you feel like I have some power over you, then... I don't live your life, I am just saying what I experienced and how I feel about personal protection till there is going to be some vaccination, if you don't like it, live in that "free world country bullshit" as much as you want. With that said I hope you are going to be fine, same with your family and close ones.

lol @ “free world country bullshit.” Is that your brain dead slogan for the United States?

Refusing to wear a mask doesn’t make one insecure, homie. Not sure how you came up with that.

Keep on wearing that mask. Do your part. Slow the spread. All that jazz.

I hope you and yours will be fine too.

 

[M1chl]

It is here I would point out the various detrimental psychological effects of this tyrant mask regime. It is intensely depersonalizing, it really hurts with basic interaction as it puts a physical barrier between people, it affects handicapped people (e.g. hard of hearing), it constantly reminds people at all times that the flu-like virus is out there (keeping them scared and paranoid and unable to move on), and it is in effect a massive power grab by the government, demanding that we all wear this at all times, even times when it is proven that it doesn't matter. These are not small things and not a small deal. But I understand why you would not accept this argument.

I don't want to be asshole, as you know, your example is absolutely valid, which obviously I never think. But honestly I think that for time being, up until some vaccine, it's good think to protect yourself with piece of cloth. You can make it fashionable, you can make it part of your identity. Well I am saying that, to be less of a instrusive thing for your being and your life. I thing what we are discussing here is all valid, except some personall attacks.

And trust me I understand this argumentation very well, you could not let me accept guns as means of personall protection, but I am guessing if I survive some shootout, I would quickly change the tone. I never went here and said "wear the mask", I do that solely, because someone who was with me there is now on ICU and it's reflecting my shock.

I hope it's more understandable this way.

 

[Cycom]

I don't want to be asshole, as you know, your example is absolutely valid, which obviously I never think. But honestly I think that for time being, up until some vaccine, it's good think to protect yourself with piece of cloth. You can make it fashionable, you can make it part of your identity. Well I am saying that, to be less of a instrusive thing for your being and your life. I thing what we are discussing here is all valid, except some personall attacks.

And trust me I understand this argumentation very well, you could not let me accept guns as means of personall protection, but I am guessing if I survive some shootout, I would quickly change the tone. I never went here and said "wear the mask", I do that solely, because someone who was with me there is now on ICU and it's reflecting my shock.

I hope it's more understandable this way.

Are the personal attacks like calling someone insecure and shitting on their country valid?

 

[M1chl]

Are the personal attacks like calling someone insecure and shitting on their country valid?

Probably not, I apologize. However strawman arguments that I want ruin people's lives also is not appropriate I think. I do not enforce this to anyone, I am just saing for personal protection is probably the best thing at this point, it's not much, but it's something.

 

[V4skunk]

I don't think you get any sort of intelectual response, it's fine, I can live with it : )

Yet you are the one thinking that magical paper masks that you can smell your own fart through will protect us all.

 

[M1chl]

Yet you are the one thinking that magical paper masks that you can smell your own fart through will protect us all.

Meh try harder

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

M1chl I've seen and argued, just today, with posters in this forum who actually believe that doctors are intentionally killing patients to make hcq and the politicians who sponsor that drug look bad. You dug deep, but there's no water in this well.

 

[M1chl]

M1chl I've seen and argued, just today, with posters in this forum who actually believe that doctors are intentionally killing patients to make hcq and the politicians who sponsor that drug look bad. You dug deep, but there's no water in this well.

Metabolism: Liver

J/K

 

[Cycom]

Probably not, I apologize. However strawman arguments that I want ruin people's lives also is not appropriate I think. I do not enforce this to anyone, I am just saing for personal protection is probably the best thing at this point, it's not much, but it's something.

That “best thing at this point” argument is not convincing. Like I said, YOU wear the mask that does fuck all. While you’re at it, add a face shield and goggles to complete the look. It’s retarded chic. Another poster mentioned the psychological impact of masks, but you do you.

Considering the derision you’ve shown to my country (apology notwithstanding), it’s clear you’re advocating for mask use from a position of arrogance.

 

[Cycom]

M1chl I've seen and argued, just today, with posters in this forum who actually believe that doctors are intentionally killing patients to make hcq and the politicians who sponsor that drug look bad. You dug deep, but there's no water in this well.

Does HCQ work on early onset covid?

 

[Jtibh]

 

[M1chl]

Who said

That “best thing at this point” argument is not convincing. Like I said, YOU wear the mask that does fuck all. While you’re at it, add a face shield and goggles to complete the look. It’s retarded chic. Another poster mentioned the psychological impact of masks, but you do you.

Considering the derision you’ve shown to my country (apology notwithstanding), it’s clear you’re advocating for mask use from a position of arrogance.

Not really, just ponting out that in some parts of world arrogance reigns supreme and all government does, sucks. Well maybe I am not as well versed on the issue and maybe government there just sucks, I don't know. But I thing certain things should be personal responsibility.

You might be fine with the virus and do absolutely no harm, other which gets infected by you could have dire consequences. This is position, ifyou care about that shit, or not. I might understand why you would not, because people sometimes sucks, however I feel for the country an in order to have healthy country in terms of economic, you cannot have people getting sick all the time. 6% death rate is not that small, how much flu has? 1% at very worst?

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Does HCQ work on early onset covid?

Considering the rest of your posts in this thread I am going to pass, and add you to the ignore pile. I've had my daily dose of crazies today already.

 

[Cycom]

Not really, just ponting out that in some parts of world arrogance reigns supreme and all government does, sucks. Well maybe I am not as well versed on the issue and maybe government there just sucks, I don't know. But I thing certain things should be personal responsibility.

You might be fine with the virus and do absolutely no harm, other which gets infected by you could have dire consequences. This is position, ifyou care about that shit, or not. I might understand why you would not, because people sometimes sucks, however I feel for the country an in order to have healthy country in terms of economic, you cannot have people getting sick all the time. 6% death rate is not that small, how much flu has? 1% at very worst?

6% death rate in the US? Proof please.

You admit ignorance to the general state of things in my country but you also insult a population of hundreds of millions of people. Got it.

 

[Cycom]

Considering the rest of your posts in this thread I am going to pass, and add you to the ignore pile. I've had my daily dose of crazies today already.

Simple question. But it looks like you’re incapable of answering it, so ciao!

 

[M1chl]

6% death rate in the US? Proof please.

You admit ignorance to the general state of things in my country but you also insult a population of hundreds of millions of people. Got it.

Are you T R I G G E R E D?

Someone posted in the thread 6% but I also jack up the influenza numbers it appears to be this:

Mortality for COVID-19 appears higher than for influenza, especially seasonal influenza. While the true mortality of COVID-19 will take some time to fully understand, the data we have so far indicate that the crude mortality ratio (the number of reported deaths divided by the reported cases) is between 3-4%, the infection mortality rate (the number of reported deaths divided by the number of infections) will be lower. For seasonal influenza, mortality is usually well below 0.1%. However, mortality is to a large extent determined by access to and quality of health care.

So it's 30-40x more deadly than classic Influenza, which does not really sounds like a good thing tho.

 

[Cycom]

Are you T R I G G E R E D?

No, but can you please provide evidence of that 6% death rate in the U.S.?

 

[M1chl]

No, but can you please provide evidence of that 6% death rate in the U.S.?

Someone in this thread post this number:

No it's just people like you are brainwashed.
Even if corona is real and deadly! Good luck protecting your self with a none carbon filtered mask.
Also the US cdc came out the other day and said only 6% of positive corona cases actually died from the virus! Giving corona something like 0.6 mortality rate lol.

It was false, I correct it in the previous post.

 

[SimpleKindofMan]

Are you T R I G G E R E D?

Someone posted in the thread 6% but I also jack up the influenza numbers it appears to be this:

Mortality for COVID-19 appears higher than for influenza, especially seasonal influenza. While the true mortality of COVID-19 will take some time to fully understand, the data we have so far indicate that the crude mortality ratio (the number of reported deaths divided by the reported cases) is between 3-4%, the infection mortality rate (the number of reported deaths divided by the number of infections) will be lower. For seasonal influenza, mortality is usually well below 0.1%. However, mortality is to a large extent determined by access to and quality of health care.

So it's 30-40x more deadly than classic Influenza, which does not really sounds like a good thing tho.

It’s no wonder you’re so afraid. The data you’re referencing is incredibly wrong. The mortality rate is nowhere near 3-4% or perhaps your country’s healthcare is bad.

Where I’m at we have 40,000 reported cases (Locally) and about 200 deaths. The mortality rate is decreasing as more testing is done. We’re in flu territory. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it’s a common respiratory illness.

 

[Cycom]

It’s no wonder you’re so afraid. The data you’re referencing is incredibly wrong. The mortality rate is nowhere near 3-4% or perhaps your country’s healthcare is bad.

Where I’m at we have 40,000 reported cases (Locally) and about 200 deaths. The mortality rate is decreasing as more testing is done. We’re in flu territory. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it’s a common respiratory illness.

You’re incorrect. Covid is a mind virus. All one has to do is look at all the people who’ve been bamboozled by their government and are now too proud and/or cowardly to get on with their lives.

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

Working in healthcare there's a lot of stuff I thought was common sense but going on this forum since covid started it doesn't seem as common as I thought.

I've seen some of the most retarded things said like covid can be spread through fart particles to it can go through the pores in your skin. These are the kinds of people that are gonna bitch none stop no matter what.

 

[M1chl]

It’s no wonder you’re so afraid. The data you’re referencing is incredibly wrong. The mortality rate is nowhere near 3-4% or perhaps your country’s healthcare is bad.

Where I’m at we have 40,000 reported cases (Locally) and about 200 deaths. The mortality rate is decreasing as more testing is done. We’re in flu territory. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it’s a common respiratory illness.

Cool story brah.

Health Care Index by Country 2025

www.numbeo.com

However:

Number of cases | Recovered | Deaths

It's still 2%, influenza is like 0.1%. Seems like a big deal to have 18+x death rate of Influenza.

Working in healthcare there's a lot of stuff I thought was common sense but going on this forum since covid started it doesn't seem as common as I thought.

I've seen some of the most retarded things said like covid can be spread through fart particles to it can go through the pores in your skin. These are the kinds of people that are gonna bitch none stop no matter what.

Well not sure what you mean in this context, are you saying that I am retarded or that it's common sense to wear protection? Obviously you have better perspective than me.

You’re incorrect. Covid is a mind virus. All one has to do is look at all the people who’ve been bamboozled by their government and are now too proud and/or cowardly to get on with their lives.

Yeah well good luck, however this does not make any sense, since gorvenment needs you to produce shit, so if anything government would be the first one who would told you that you are fine.

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

Well not sure what you mean in this context, are you saying that I am retarded or that it's common sense to wear protection? Obviously you have better perspective than me.

I'm saying the people that try to discredit that a mask helps reduce the spread of covid are retarded. I've seen the most retarded shit said from the fart and skin that I mentioned before.

You wanna be a selfish asshole whatever, but the justifications people come up with to make themselves feel better about being assholes is mindboggling.

 

[SimpleKindofMan]

Cool story brah.

Health Care Index by Country 2025

www.numbeo.com

However:

Number of cases | Recovered | Deaths

It's still 2%, influenza is like 0.1%. Seems like a big deal to have 18+x death rate of Influenza.

Why would my "story" upset you? Think about that. You're pissed because the rate isn't as high as you want it to maintain your fear buzz.

Within minutes the rate was miraculously cut from 3-4% (your data) all the way down to 2% (also your data). It's a miracle!!!

We're past the point of low hanging fruit and mismanaged care. The rate is going down quite fast as more data is collected. Yes, we are in flu territory. The upper boundary where I'm at is 0.5% and will go much lower as more testing is done.

If you have have your heart set on living in fear, there's nothing I can do for you.

 

[M1chl]

I'm saying the people that try to discredit that a mask helps reduce the spread of covid are retarded. I've seen the most retarded shit said from the fart and skin that I mentioned before.

You wanna be a selfish asshole whatever, but the justifications people come up with to make themselves feel better about being assholes is mindboggling.

Gotcha, premise of your post seemed ridiculous enough, however seems like people trying to strawman this into oblivion.

Why would my "story" upset you? Think about that. You're pissed because the rate isn't as high as you want it to maintain your fear buzz.

Within minutes the rate was miraculously cut from 3-4% (your data) all the way down to 2% (also your data). It's a miracle!!!

We're past the point of low hanging fruit and mismanaged care. The rate is going down quite fast as more data is collected. Yes, we are in flu territory. The upper boundary where I'm at is 0.5% and will go much lower as more testing is done.

If you have have your heart set on living in fear, there's nothing I can do for you.

I did not pull my ass from nothing, 3-4% was from WHO, you know I have to get numbers from somewhere. I am not upset, it's most likel that our medicine works fine and it helps to keep deaths at very low rates. However even in the OP it's explained why i am not cool with what is happening with this shitty Wuhan virus.

You might have great immunity, I have not, because it's artifically held low. I have the right to my freedom of expression of my concern I think.

 

[HE1NZ]

Hilarous watching videos of America still being in panic mode while Europe is pretty much completely open. I get that it's because of politics though.

 

[Cycom]

Gotcha, premise of your post seemed ridiculous enough, however seems like people trying to strawman this into oblivion.

You should probably stop accusing people of strawmanning others when you’re doing the exact same thing.

 

[M1chl]

Hilarous watching videos of America still being in panic mode while Europe is pretty much completely open. I get that it's because of politics though.

Hmm I think that current Europe measures suck ass and we are seeing big uprising in number of cases, because it's to tell citizens "you are free to not give a fuck" it's not the best way to go about it.

If you did not catch that, I am from central Europe.

You should probably stop accusing people of strawmanning others when you’re doing the exact same thing.

Well, here is the thing I do not think so, but obviously it's your right to call me on that if you are feeling differently.

 

[Cycom]

Hmm I think that current Europe measures suck ass and we are seeing big uprising in number of cases, because it's to tell citizens "you are free to not give a fuck" it's not the best way to go about it.

If you did not catch that, I am from central Europe.


Well, here is the thing I do not think so, but obviously it's your right to call me on that if you are feeling differently.

There are no feelings involved here, just the proof of your posts. You do what you accuse others of doing.

 

[HE1NZ]

Hmm I think that current Europe measures suck ass and we are seeing big uprising in number of cases, because it's to tell citizens "you are free to not give a fuck" it's not the best way to go about it.

If you did not catch that, I am from central Europe.

Your health is your own business. Forcing everyone to wear masks and shutting down businesses is pure bullshit. Everyone can wear mask on their own volition, and there's a 100% public awareness of the disease.

 

[M1chl]

There are no feelings involved here, just the proof of your posts. You do what you accuse others of doing.

Cool, however not in a bad faith. You know like they say better safe then sorry. If you are living in the middle of the nowhere you are most likely safe. Besides why are you offended about this thread it exist, do you feel like you have to whiteknight it and bring people to the truth, that basically all of it is just a mind virus? I don't undestand what is your position.

Your health is your own business. Forcing everyone to wear masks and shutting down businesses is pure bullshit. Everyone can wear mask on their own volition, and there's a 100% public awareness of the disease.

Again the issue now is that, this is not true, it's abou solidarity. I do not understand why is problematic to wear mask, until there is going to be some solution to this. I feel like I am reading smokers narrative, that they do not force others to inhale their smoke in the public spaces. Good thing that they are nearly wiped out here.

The issue is that you can influence health of others due to unexpected contact with the virus. Seems like everyone is by themself nowadays. I sure I don't impose this to anyone, however it's quite sad, how others think. I would, even if I would no have such issues wear such small protective equipment, you know solidarity, boomers are also people.

 

[HE1NZ]

Again the issue now is that, this is not true, it's abou solidarity. I do not understand why is problematic to wear mask, until there is going to be some solution to this. I feel like I am reading smokers narrative, that they do not force others to inhale their smoke in the public spaces. Good thing that they are nearly wiped out here.

The issue is that you can influence health of others due to unexpected contact with the virus. Seems like everyone is by themself nowadays. I sure I don't impose this to anyone, however it's quite sad, how others think. I would, even if I would no have such issues wear such small protective equipment, you know solidarity, boomers are also people.

Solidarity is great as long as it's not involves the government. Prolongued shutdown is much worse for boomer health than somebody not wearing masks.

 

[M1chl]

Solidarity is great as long as it's not involves the government. Prolongued shutdown is much worse for boomer health than somebody not wearing masks.

I stated multiple times in this thread, that I am absolutely not in favor of lockdowns, shutdowns and that sort of thing, I like masks with continuing life as it was.

 

[HE1NZ]

I stated multiple times in this thread, that I am absolutely not in favor of lockdowns, shutdowns and that sort of thing, I like masks with continuing life as it was.

That's cool. I still wear a mask if I happen to be in public transport. Not anywhere else though.

 

[Birgitte2004-2]

M1chl I've seen and argued, just today, with posters in this forum who actually believe that doctors are intentionally killing patients to make hcq and the politicians who sponsor that drug look bad. You dug deep, but there's no water in this well.

Considering multiple studies got caught overdosing patients on HCQ, including tests by the UK and the WHO, I'd say that your disbelief that doctors would do that is naive at best, or willfully ignorant at worst.

 

[lukilladog]

I tell ya. I did everything right - always wore a mask on public transport, social distancing, washing my hands multiple times a day, sanitizing after going out anywhere - and I still caught a muthafucka of a head cold. I thought, if I can still catch a regular cold after all that, I've got no chance against covid

I would never use public transport without an N95, at least not during a pandemic.

 

[Malakhov]

Because like a stated again other viruses compared to this one are not as easily transmitted compared to the covid one.
We actually have a flu season where the strain comes and goes each year and get this we have flu vaccine which cover a good amount of the strains.

covid is not a seasonal thing, its a human thing. Where as we keep making stupid decisions no matter what time of year we are inor season it will always be here and hit hard. Also we do not yet have a vaccine for said covid yet.

also covid hasnt been around even a year yet and already it had or close to passing yearly deaths with the flu and we still arent even at the year mark yet. I hope this will generally teach people proper hygiene when its all done and go wash hands more effectively and frequently. And the old mentality of work and if your sick, dont go into work and stay home much like my case now, if I feel sick I have to stay home maybe 4 days until a test proves im negative

Teach hygiene alright but that's no what people have to learn from this.

Eat well, exercise and try to stay away from blood pressure and diabetes or you are fucked

 

[Joe T.]

I did not Criticize Sweden, I was talking about UK, where the situation wasn't nice, not long time ago I read the post, that Johnson still have issues after his recovery nad I don't think that it was responsible thing to do, because density of the population in UK is pretty high, it's not like Sweden.

And as much as I appreciate skepticism, if I look at our numbers (which is something which interest me the most), those measure worked, but if you do some measures and then you drop them, than obviously looking back, those measures were useless. I think as far as what we have, mask are really not that evil to wear, they are at best mild inconvenience and if they are effective for 10% of situation....good. It's better than nothing.

I did not say, shut it all down, I never say anything like, I am in the crowd, that show must go on, people have to work and have means to provide for they families. I am by no means in favor of lockdowns, just to be clear. But I think that mask even as a non-perfect ssolution, it's probably the best thing we have for continuing normal life. I would also add there gloves and Glasses, which could be fashionable on their own, as far as gloves could be really fucking annoying in summer, tho, but so far I survived. So... that's my position.

I also have post-translant lungs full of mucous, which happens when you are operated....surgered or how do you call that in English, my memory is acting : ( ...and it was absolutely horrible experience, long hours feeling like underwater. And that's basically what are people saiyng, when they get contained with Covid, so I would not wish my experience to be replicated to others.

I didn't mean to imply you held those positions on Sweden or lockdowns, just yelling at clouds like Grandpa Simpson, I guess. My simplified view of it all: treat your residents like responsible adults, give them all the relevant facts and trust them to make the right choices. That trust will be returned and rewarded. That didn't happen in most places.

I disagree with your position on masks, but I respect the fact that it's grounded in reality - happy enough with them being effective 10% of the time. Anyone thinking they could prevent the spread by 50% or more is difficult to take seriously, if that were the case Asian countries would have much lower influenza infection numbers.

I personally do find them more than just a mild inconvenience. I like fresh air. I don't like putting them on and off repeatedly. I don't like being forced to carry an extra item in my pockets. I like reading facial expressions/cues from both the people I'm speaking to and those that may be off to the side or in the distance. I like nonverbal communication. I like interacting with people, to put it simply, and masking up strips some of that away. An argument can be made that it serves to dehumanize us because we all start to look more alike, show fewer distinguishing features and are communicating less. Voices are also sometimes slightly muffled.

I have no intention of ever wearing one outdoors. I put it on right before stepping into a store then pull it off even before both feet are back outside. What does it say when even the experts advising their use are caught ignoring the guidelines (re: face touching, wash hands every time you adjust it)? There are probably hundreds of pictures/videos mocking health officials and politicians around the world for this, so if our leaders/experts can't follow the guidelines when they know the cameras are on them what gives anyone the impression the general public will? The guidelines are impractical for widespread, general purpose use over extended periods of time.

People are tossing those surgical masks and gloves all over the ground and waterways, too. It might be a little easier to tolerate that if they allowed us to open everything back up. Protesting shoulder to shoulder, yelling every which way and in the face of authorities was encouraged by some politicians, but we couldn't hold fireworks displays or outdoor concerts/festivals? Was this a test to see just how subservient we had become?

Each of these points make for minor inconveniences when isolated or temporary, but they become a much more nagging annoyance when lumped together and have to be dealt with for extended periods of time. Canada's top health officials expect "peaks and valleys until at least January 2022" and Quebec only mandated masks in indoor spaces long after the curve had already been crushed. Now that cases are back on the rise they're trying to convince us it's because we aren't following the rules and ignoring the fact that testing numbers are higher than ever. It's no surprise the death threats have been flying their way.

 

[Maxwell Jacob Friedman]

Teach hygiene alright but that's no what people have to learn from this.

Eat well, exercise and try to stay away from blood pressure and diabetes or you are fucked

Thats also true, hopefully this wakes up places where obesity is rampant as well along with proper hygiene etc.

also sadly covid does take people who arr healthy as well. Everyone reacts different to the virus and fights it differently

 

[Malakhov]

Thats also true, hopefully this wakes up places where obesity is rampant as well along with proper hygiene etc.

also sadly covid does take people who arr healthy as well. Everyone reacts different to the virus and fights it differently

It happens but very very rarely. Most who died had underlying conditions, just like any other viruses.

We had one patient in his thirties who died at work and he was morbidly obese and had a lot of conditions

 

[Lionel Richie]

Hilarous watching videos of America still being in panic mode while Europe is pretty much completely open. I get that it's because of politics though.

Posts like this and the weirdly aggressive ones overstating one's freedom (if more people thought like that our species would go extinct and we'd deserve it too) are a wonderful summary of the fucked up Dunning–Kruger effect that happens in basically every Covid related thread here. There's this very simple explanation that somehow eludes you, like two really big places separated by a fucking ocean with different actions being taken to contain the crisis might be at different contagion stages. If you want to expand a bit your horizons on the matter, I'd recommend reading this.

M1chl let it go bro. You're fighting a good fight and you're much more moderate on your views on this subject than I am. Still won't lead you nowhere.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Wash your hands good and as frequently as you're realistically able to. Don't bother too much with hand sanitizers as that will only affect bacteria, not viruses. In fact it's always been silly how there's this emphasis on hand sanitizers when they won't really do anything to help.

I'm still on the fence on Covid. It is either overblown or it is even worse than what we are being told.

And for those criticizing America, we really are doing our part. Wearing masks indoor is mandatory in my state. Bars are STILL closed down after a month. We're hurting pretty bad here in this state and especially city and we may never recover economically. It took us 8 years to recover from 9/11 and that was nothing compared to this.

 

[Stiflers Mom]

First of all, if you don't live near me, you don't have to wear mask I don't give a fuck...because most likely you are from "brain free country", however for the rest of the audience here I have some story, which could easily ended up with me being dead.

I don't think I have to write here, that I am post liver transplant, but I also suffer from the Psoriasis, which is way worse than anything alcohol, transplant related. One of the reason why I started drinking so much, was that the constant itching was unbearable. Fortunately, now I am getting 2 injections per 3 months and I am trouble free....however on the Wednesday, I was there for the check in front of like 20 doctors, where you have to undress and they look at you, most of them are women withing range of your age and it sucks etc. However, I decided at least cover my face with mask so my embarassment is not that visible.

I did good, cause someone within the doctors personnel or maybe some patinet brough covid there, I was notified next day by someone who was there with me for the check and I acquired telephone number, etc. She was..well is pretty sick, she is currently on the ICU. With Prosirasis you take so immune suppressants, however I do twice that for an foreign organ in me so I would probably be really fucked if I would got infected.

So yeah it's real and it could be anywhere, wearing mask is small sacrifice and most likely you look better in it, then without it. At least in my case it works like that.

Also covid test sucks and it hurts like mofo, so try to evade this shitty medical intervetion.

Also wear glasses if possible, surgery fucked my vision, so I am good in this sense, I need to wear them everywhere.

Damn, that's a lot of bad shit for one person to cope with.
Wish you lots of good health in the future, my friend...

 

[raduque]

So, you keep claiming you're immunocompromised, at risk, etc.

Well, I think it's on YOU and YOU ALONE to self-isolat and take precautions.

You're supposed to quarantine the sick and at-risk, not the healthy with decimal percentage points of being affected by an overblown cold virus.

 

[MilkyJoe]

That's right kids, be sure to hazmat up to save yourself from this 70% asymptomatic virus, with it's >99.9% survival rate and average victim age of 82 (with underlying health issues)

 

[Kev Kev]

You might have great immunity, I have not

then stay home

stop asking the rest of us to suffer with you

myself and most other people are going to take this thing off soon, and it's going to be up to you to protect yourself.

i suggest you start figuring out how you're going to do that