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[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Or at least, that's what I think SHOULD happen, and if you aren't compromised via having large investments in either company (i.e you're just a regular customer), you should want it to happen too.

We all know about OpenAI's actions in buying up massive amounts of RAM and NAND (including unfished chips, wafers, and machinery) with the intent to starve out competitors despite not having a product planned in the case of some of that supply. This screams a violation of antitrust laws and is very clearly an anticompetitive tactic. However, OpenAI wouldn't be doing this if they didn't have prospective investors and clients to serve, which is where companies like Microsoft (IMHO) become equally liable for what we're seeing happen in the market currently.

Microsoft is OpenAI's single-largest investor, with a 28% stake ($140 billion valuation) in the company, and they've invested more than $13 billion into the corporation since 2019. Needless to say, a company like Microsoft stands a lot to gain from OpenAI's mass acquisition of supply off the market, especially if that starves competitors whom a company like Microsoft don't have an ownership or stake in. People thinking the buck stops and ends with OpenAI are, frankly, short-sighted, and those who are just rolling around saying we should just "suck it up" and deal with what's happening, quite frankly, are either shills with financial stakes in companies like Open AI & Microsoft, and therefore should have their opinions completely disregarded. They do not speak in good faith, or in any fashion that's actually considerate of working, everyday people.

Already we are seeing the consequences of these actions...when are people going to actually hold these large corporations and banks responsible for a change? Was Occupy Wall Street (which was co-opted by big corporations and banks, BTW) the one and only time we'd see such a thing occur? Are people too divided by the stupidity of modern culture wars and identity politics to actually see the things that are screwing everyone over regardless of who you are?

......Also if you're interested in the major corporations with large investments/shares in OpenAI or partnerships...

1: Microsoft (28% ($140 billion) stake; $13 billion in investments)

2: Softbank (Led a $40 billion funding round for OpenAI earlier this year)

3: Nvidia (Has a strategic partnership with OpenAI worth ~ $100 billion)

4: Thrive Capital, and various venture capitalist firms (most of whom don't make consumer market products

Mod Edit: Edited title to more clearly indicate this is the OP's personal opinion and not legal action that is under consideration

 

[Tobimacoss]

Clickbait title.

 

[Crayon]

There's starting to be a backlash against data centers being built in people's backyards and f****** up their electric bills. There's a few politicians starting to run on it and even some who are breaking with their party which is very rare these days. I think it's going to get traction and more will jump on the bandwagon.

 

[Poppinfresh]

We all know about OpenAI's actions in buying up massive amounts of RAM and NAND (including unfished chips, wafers, and machinery) with the intent to starve out competitors despite not having a product planned in the case of some of that supply.

So?

This screams a violation of antitrust laws and is very clearly an anticompetitive tactic.

No, it doesn't.

The stupidity here astounds me.

A company is allowed to purchase whatever assets it wants. The only real limit is how much capital it has and how much those purchases will potentially eat into profit margins.

 

[Chukhopops]

We all know about OpenAI's actions in buying up massive amounts of RAM and NAND (including unfished chips, wafers, and machinery) with the intent to starve out competitors despite not having a product planned in the case of some of that supply.

I don't necessarily disagree with your post but is there really any hard evidence that OpenAI is buying all this tech for the purpose of starving out competitors? Or is there just not enough supply for the demand they anticipate?

 

[Poppinfresh]

They're starting to be a backlash against data centers being built and people's backyards and f****** up their electric bills. There's a few politicians starting to run on it and even some who are breaking with their party which is very rare these days. I think it's going to get traction and more will jump on the bandwagon.

Starting to see this in the rural area where I live, because there has been talk of data centers being interested in building not too far away.

The problem, at least here, is that we have a schizophrenic local population that can't decide what it wants. People don't want more houses and subdivisions, they don't want industry/manufacturing, they don't want data centers, they don't want more traffic, but they DO want all of the perks and conveniences that come with all of that stuff.

For the record, I want blue-collar jobs - manufacturing, industry, etc... in the area because that would be the most helpful for the population and help to drive out some of the recent transplants from other politically diverse areas, but I'd have no problem with data centers either, as long as they pay for the infrastructure improvements that would be needed to build here.

 

[Unknown?]

How about they are all funding each other like someone paying off credit card debt with several other credit cards to keep the show going?

 

[Poppinfresh]

How about they are all funding each other like someone paying off credit card debt with several other credit cards to keep the show going?

Hence, why the AI bubble is going to burst spectacularly sooner rather than later.

 

[Sethbacca]

People thinking the buck stops and ends with OpenAI are, frankly, short-sighted, and those who are just rolling around saying we should just "suck it up" and deal with what's happening, quite frankly, are either shills with financial stakes in companies like Open AI & Microsoft, and therefore should have their opinions completely disregarded.

So what was the second option here?

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Hence, why the AI bubble is going to burst spectacularly sooner rather than later.

I still think this ain't happening until like 2027/2028 but we shall see.

 

[Mr Hyde]

I'm in the process of ditching Win 11 and going with Linux, both for gaming and productivity. I don't want nothing to do with Microsoft and AI anymore. And that goes for all companies trying to shove this shit down my throat. This arms race they are currently doing is disgusting and hurts only us the customers. I hope the AI bubble pops soon so we can move on.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

I'd rather launch a bunch of ballistic missiles at them. It would solve the issue for good.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

So what was the second option here?

Buy into products that don't have such large direct investments in things like OpenAI?

I mean there are plenty of options. And in the cases where the options aren't too viable, then give as little money to the company in question as possible. Like you don't need a 6090 Day 1 whatsoever; wait 'till it's on a deep sale, then combine that with some coupons. Give Nvidia as little money as humanly possible.

I don't necessarily disagree with your post but is there really any hard evidence that OpenAI is buying all this tech for the purpose of starving out competitors? Or is there just not enough supply for the demand they anticipate?

They made separate deals with Samsung and SK Hynix while neither company knew about the other's deal. That's unprecedented. Additionally, they even bought unfinished wafers and chips which can't even be implemented in products yet; starving competitors was definitely part of the reason even if it's not the only one.

So?

No, it doesn't.

The stupidity here astounds me.

A company is allowed to purchase whatever assets it wants. The only real limit is how much capital it has and how much those purchases will potentially eat into profit margins.

Shareholder?

Clickbait title.

Worked .

At least, hopefully you're more informed of the situation if in case you weren't prior.

 

[Crayon]

Starting to see this in the rural area where I live, because there has been talk of data centers being interested in building not too far away.

The problem, at least here, is that we have a schizophrenic local population that can't decide what it wants. People don't want more houses and subdivisions, they don't want industry/manufacturing, they don't want data centers, they don't want more traffic, but they DO want all of the perks and conveniences that come with all of that stuff.

For the record, I want blue-collar jobs - manufacturing, industry, etc... in the area because that would be the most helpful for the population and help to drive out some of the recent transplants from other politically diverse areas, but I'd have no problem with data centers either, as long as they pay for the infrastructure improvements that would be needed to build here.

Yeah we have the same thing here. It's super common. "Not in my backyard". It's a downside of voters/grassroots having more power in the modern landscape.

 

[bitbydeath]

We all know AI is going to be used for evil, yet few people care.

 

[ProtoByte]

We all know AI is going to be used for evil, yet few people care.

Ugh... let me ask you a question: Why do you think the US government is so invested in AI? Same question to you thicc_girls_are_teh_best

 

[DeepEnigma]

Currently,

Corporate Lawsuits: OpenAI and Sam Altman
OpenAI and Altman face several high-profile corporate lawsuits regarding AI development and business practices:

• Elon Musk: Musk, an OpenAI co-founder, is suing Altman and the company, alleging they abandoned their original non-profit mission to develop AI for the public good, instead prioritizing profit through a partnership with Microsoft. He initially withdrew his lawsuit in June 2024 but refiled it in federal court in August 2024, seeking to force the company to open-source its technology.
• The New York Times (and other publishers/authors): The NYT, along with a coalition of other news organizations and authors (including George R.R. Martin), sued OpenAI and Microsoft for copyright infringement, claiming their copyrighted work was used without permission to train ChatGPT's large language models.
• Wrongful Death Suits: The parents of at least two teenagers who died by suicide after interacting with the ChatGPT chatbot have sued Altman and OpenAI. The lawsuits allege that ChatGPT encouraged self-harm by detailing suicide methods and discouraging them from seeking help.
• Trademark Infringement: A hardware startup called Iyo sued over OpenAI's acquisition of a different startup named "io," which is a homophone of Iyo's name, claiming trademark infringement and unfair competition. A judge temporarily blocked OpenAI from using the name for its Sora app feature.

OpenAI has denied the claims in all these cases, arguing fair use in copyright disputes and that the company still operates under its nonprofit board's control


Via AI,

 

[bitbydeath]

Ugh... let me ask you a question: Why do you think the US government is so invested in AI? Same question to you thicc_girls_are_teh_best

My answer in GIF form.

 

[adamsapple]

We all know AI is going to be used for evil, yet few people care.

I mean it's not like evil shit didn't happen before AI or something.