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Cxllege Fxxtball 2016 Week Thirteen: Whx gets the best lxss?

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Ninja Scooter

Member
Vanillalite said:
USC should be an eternal top 10 team, and they aren't so I understand why their fanbase is jumpy.

They have legacy, a ton of previously great players, flush with cash, in a market with a gazillion fucking people, top notch weather ect...

In So Cal the land of 20-30 million people no reason USC shouldn't be able to get all kinds of good players. Plus So Cal has good weather so kids can play sports year around.
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They do, which is why I'm cautious of Helton. How much of this success is him, and how much is just the amazing talent pool the USC name alone pulls in? Lane had a year just like this one before the wheels fell off and he was exposed.
 
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Vanillalite

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Lonestar said:
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I can't even...

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jstevenson

Sailor Stevenson
Ninja Scooter said:
They do, which is why I'm cautious of Helton. How much of this success is him, and how much is just the amazing talent pool the USC name alone pulls in? Lane had a year just like this one before the wheels fell off and he was exposed.
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I dunno. with that skill player set + that qb.... they gonna be tough for a while
 
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chuckddd

Fear of a GAF Planet
jstevenson said:
no, they must play SDSU again.

Wyoming was higher ranked by their computer formulas so they host the game.

Wyoming narrowly beat SDSU just last week in Laramie, now they have to play them again.

SDSU is favored by 7.5
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And they both got pummeled in their regular season finales, losing by a combined 53 points. The conference needs a juggernaut again.
 
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Ninja Scooter

Member
jstevenson said:
I dunno. with that skill player set + that qb.... they gonna be tough for a while
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That's what everybody thought when Lane had Barkley and a host of other starters coming back in 2012 and that team went 7-5. I'm just not sold that Helton isn't in over his head but we'll see. Programs like USC or Texas with the recruiting advantages they have should not have those kinds of up and down seasons. There is no reason a great coach shouldn't win 10 games every year at those kinds of schools, and if you can't do that at USC you probably aren't a great coach.
 
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Purple Cheeto

Member
Vanillalite said:
USC should be an eternal top 10 team, and they aren't so I understand why their fanbase is jumpy.

They have legacy, a ton of previously great players, flush with cash, in a market with a gazillion fucking people, top notch weather ect...

In So Cal the land of 20-30 million people no reason USC shouldn't be able to get all kinds of good players. Plus So Cal has good weather so kids can play sports year around.
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Even during their recent swoon recruiting was only hampered by the number of players they could sign. They were still bringing in highly regarded talent. They lost because they lacked depth and Monte Kiffin is a geriatric who has no business coaching against modern offenses. People forget how incredibly poorly coached those USC defenses were. They were assignment poor and fundamentally unsound at tackling.

Talent is important, but coaching matters at the college level, and USC ran up against a string of better coaches during that timespan.
 
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andycapps

Member
Ninja Scooter said:
That's what everybody thought when Lane had Barkley and a host of other starters coming back in 2012 and that team went 7-5. I'm just not sold that Helton isn't in over his head but we'll see. Programs like USC or Texas with the recruiting advantages they have should not have those kinds of up and down seasons. There is no reason a great coach shouldn't win 10 games every year at those kinds of schools, and if you can't do that at USC you probably aren't a great coach.
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True
 
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Purple Cheeto

Member
Ninja Scooter said:
They do, which is why I'm cautious of Helton. How much of this success is him, and how much is just the amazing talent pool the USC name alone pulls in? Lane had a year just like this one before the wheels fell off and he was exposed.
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Don't forget that USC fell apart after Khalil left. I mention this because they're losing both of their tackles after this season. Plus they likely lose their top two receivers and two most important defensive players.

mre said:
We need more D-linemen, not LBers.
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I'll be sure to let Saban know during my weekly tea with him.

WSU has an OL who is a finalist for the Outland trophy. He didn't make the All Pac12 team. UCLA placed linemen on the first and second team.

Awards are dumb.
 
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FloydtheFathead

Member
Purple Cheeto said:
Alabama might sign 4 of the top 5 LBers in this recruiting class.
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Baron.. listen to your parents. They want you at Ohio State... They don't trust Nick. Jeffrey is coming and you two are bros.. come on Baron. Luke will make you a first rounder and get you early playing time.

You, Marvin, and Jeffrey on the defense.. that's gonna be real nice

tebunker said:
Add on to that they might flip a five star CB from anOSU. Saban has such a recruiting machine.
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I'm going to be really annoyed if that happens..

We might get Darnay Holmes from out West should Wade leave and we still have Jeffrey..

Our secondary should be decent

Hippopuncher12 said:
I've been under the impression that Wade has been an Alabama lean for quite some time...wish he would just either decommit and get it over with or truly reaffirm his OSU verbal.
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I do too..

mre said:
We need more D-linemen, not LBers.
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Aren't you losing 2 or 3 this year?

cashman said:
All Charlie had to do was win like 8 games and we could've landed Browning. This will be worse than missing A'shawn 4 years ago.
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Not only Browning, Wilson, Dobbins, maybe Okudah

But he might get all of them should he decide to go to Ohio State..
 
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Kevtones

Member
Man, fuck the Oregon AD Mullens for doing that to Helfrich. It's further damaging the program to say:


'hey i'm gonna go work on my CFP stuff and then come back and let ya know'


What a tool.



cdyhybrid said:
To be fair, if Darnold didn't turn out to be a star he'd probably be gone already.
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Keyshawn was the only one saying 'let it ride out' while the George duder was getting all panic-y. I get the program has experienced a crazy amount of change but you have to let things breath.

But yeah if they 4-8ish Clay would be gone.
 
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Battlezone

Member
FloydtheFathead said:
Jabrill Peppers is BIG LB of the year?
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Raekwon got robbed..
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LOL he got Defensive Player of the Year, too.

e: also I see OSU's Coach of the Year drought continues

2016 Big Ten Individual Award Winners

Dungy-Thompson Humanitarian Award: Trent Green, Indiana*

Ford-Kinnick Leadership Award: Reggie McKenzie, Michigan*

Nagurski-Woodson Defensive Player of the Year: Jabrill Peppers, Michigan

Smith-Brown Defensive Lineman of the Year: Tyquan Lewis, Ohio State

Butkus-Fitzgerald Linebacker of the Year: Jabrill Peppers, Michigan

Tatum-Woodson Defensive Back of the Year: Jourdan Lewis, Michigan

Bakken-Andersen Kicker of the Year: Emmit Carpenter, Minnesota

Eddleman-Fields Punter of the Year: Cameron Johnston, Ohio State

Rodgers-Dwight Return Specialist of the Year: Jabrill Peppers, Michigan

Hayes-Schembechler Coach of the Year (coaches vote): Paul Chryst, Wisconsin

Dave McClain Coach of the Year (media vote): James Franklin, Penn State
 
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FloydtheFathead

Member
mre said:
Apparently, he's a LB/DB: http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/jabrill_peppers_906061.html
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But he's primarily a secondary player..

It's a crock..

Frozenprince said:
Chad Morris told Baylor no.

Job is toxic.
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bucknuticus said:
I read he wanted 4.5 mil or something and Baylor said naaaaaaaaw
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If Baylor wants that job filled.. they will have to break the bank at this point considering how toxic the job is..

Battlezone said:
LOL he got Defensive Player of the Year, too.

e: also I see OSU's Coach of the Year drought continues

2016 Big Ten Individual Award Winners

Dungy-Thompson Humanitarian Award: Trent Green, Indiana*

Ford-Kinnick Leadership Award: Reggie McKenzie, Michigan*

Nagurski-Woodson Defensive Player of the Year: Jabrill Peppers, Michigan

Smith-Brown Defensive Lineman of the Year: Tyquan Lewis, Ohio State

Butkus-Fitzgerald Linebacker of the Year: Jabrill Peppers, Michigan

Tatum-Woodson Defensive Back of the Year: Jourdan Lewis, Michigan

Bakken-Andersen Kicker of the Year: Emmit Carpenter, Minnesota

Eddleman-Fields Punter of the Year: Cameron Johnston, Ohio State

Rodgers-Dwight Return Specialist of the Year: Jabrill Peppers, Michigan

Hayes-Schembechler Coach of the Year (coaches vote): Paul Chryst, Wisconsin

Dave McClain Coach of the Year (media vote): James Franklin, Penn State
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I don't mind us ever winning coach of the year.. it's expectation game as always..

No one expected Paul Chryst or that Toolbag Franklin from the success they had..

They should have given Peppers returner/Secondary/and DPOY.. I guess.. but LB? Ridiculous..
 
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Battlezone

Member
FloydtheFathead said:
I don't mind us ever winning coach of the year.. it's expectation game as always..

No one expected Paul Chryst or that Toolbag Franklin from the success they had..

They should have given Peppers returner/Secondary/and DPOY.. I guess.. but LB? Ridiculous..
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Me either. I figured James Franklin was a shoo-in.

Jourdan Lewis over Malik Hooker for DBOY is the bigger shame, tbh.
 
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FloydtheFathead

Member
Draxal said:
Gata
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That.. would be a good landing spot for him..

Battlezone said:
Me either. I figured James Franklin was a shoo-in.

Jourdan Lewis over Malik Hooker for DBOY is the bigger shame, tbh.
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I guess Paul got it because of that goddamn schedule was hell and he only had two losses..

I don't have a problem with it..

I agree with you with that as well.. but only because Peppers should have been given DBOY rather than friggen LB..

Hooker should have gotten DBOY rather than Lewis..
 
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MIMIC

Banned
If Penn State wins, I think we (OSU) are in. If Wisconsin wins.....I'm not as certain. I still think we'll go, though.
 
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jstevenson

Sailor Stevenson
OSU and Bama are in for sure.

Clemson if it wins is in
Washington if it wins is in

If one loses, B1G winner is in
If two lose, I really think B1G winner and Michigan will be in to put 3 B1G teams in the playoff
 
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bgbball31

Member
Being a Michigan fan right now... ugh. At 5, it would seem as though we only need Washington or Clemson to lose and be in, but all know that isn't the case.

I think we need Washington to lose and Penn State to win to have a decent shot. Clemson and Washington lose and I don't think it matters who wins the Big 10 championship, we'd be in.

It just sucks that the two best teams in the Big Ten are left on the sideline this week to just watch and wait.
 
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