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Cyberpunk 2077 - Review Thread

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Thank you very much for tagging me- I may have missed this otherwise!







Stories like this absolutely break my heart. The lack of empathy you were shown is horrible, and I am so very sorry you were treated that way. :lollipop_crying:đź’”

I know all too well those exact fears - I buried those same worries deep inside out of fear of being bullied worse than I already was...for fear of losing all those who loved me, and because my strong Christian upbringing made me worry if I was an abomination in the eyes of God. It was a different time...and it ensured that not only did I feel like something was wrong with me, but that I was a horrible disgusting person because of what I felt deep inside. I forced myself to live as others expected me to, and eventually not only did I secretly hate my body...I started despising my very soul and eventually became very depressed, anxious, and suicidal.

I finally decided to transition at age 40 after realizing it would hurt those I love more if I was dead than if I told them the truth and live as a woman. Some were very surprised, others not so much...but I was shown love and compassion where my fears told me I would only find abandonment and exile. Upon medically transitioning, my horrific gender dysphoria mostly disappeared as well as my depression and want for suicide. My relationship with the Lord grew so much stronger...as I realized He knew my deeper feelings and struggles, and He loves me more than I will ever truly understand despite my shortcomings. ❤

(One year into transition, my family and I learned that I was caused prenatal sexual differentiation and birth defects by epigenetic exposure to a drug called Diethylstilbestrol.)


Anyway, what I'm saying is this...Your feelings of worry are founded in reality and nothing to simply wave away as "transphobic." Transition is a very difficult and expensive process...and what I would consider a last resort alternative to suicide. Most transsexuals do not celebrate being trans, and would wish to have been born their ideal sex at birth more than anything. The problem is that the so-called transgender "community" is being overrun with fetishists and/or people who became trans through porn addiction, people who suffer dissociative identity disorder brought on through sexual abuse as a child, and people who feel outcast in a number of ways and latch into the trans umbrella to feel like they belong and may even simply wish to feel special in a way (like "Tucutes" and people who think you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans).

You are who you are, and there is some reason for that. It's healthy and medically recommended to seek help and search within oneself for answers on "Why do I feel this way?", "What is my best course of action?", and "What will happen if I make these life-changing decisions?" It is insane to think such worries and self-reflections are transphobic.


Please know that you are more than welcome here, and even though I can be poor at responding in a timely manner at times...please know you can message me privately with any questions or if you just want to talk. Thank you so much for sharing, and I wish your only happiness and blessings in your life. I will be praying for you and I'm sending you a big hug! ❤
I love this place. Thanks for sharing this.
 

FunkMiller

Gold Member
Thank you very much for tagging me- I may have missed this otherwise!







Stories like this absolutely break my heart. The lack of empathy you were shown is horrible, and I am so very sorry you were treated that way. :lollipop_crying:đź’”

I know all too well those exact fears - I buried those same worries deep inside out of fear of being bullied worse than I already was...for fear of losing all those who loved me, and because my strong Christian upbringing made me worry if I was an abomination in the eyes of God. It was a different time...and it ensured that not only did I feel like something was wrong with me, but that I was a horrible disgusting person because of what I felt deep inside. I forced myself to live as others expected me to, and eventually not only did I secretly hate my body...I started despising my very soul and eventually became very depressed, anxious, and suicidal.

I finally decided to transition at age 40 after realizing it would hurt those I love more if I was dead than if I told them the truth and live as a woman. Some were very surprised, others not so much...but I was shown love and compassion where my fears told me I would only find abandonment and exile. Upon medically transitioning, my horrific gender dysphoria mostly disappeared as well as my depression and want for suicide. My relationship with the Lord grew so much stronger...as I realized He knew my deeper feelings and struggles, and He loves me more than I will ever truly understand despite my shortcomings. ❤

(One year into transition, my family and I learned that I was caused prenatal sexual differentiation and birth defects by epigenetic exposure to a drug called Diethylstilbestrol.)


Anyway, what I'm saying is this...Your feelings of worry are founded in reality and nothing to simply wave away as "transphobic." Transition is a very difficult and expensive process...and what I would consider a last resort alternative to suicide. Most transsexuals do not celebrate being trans, and would wish to have been born their ideal sex at birth more than anything. The problem is that the so-called transgender "community" is being overrun with fetishists and/or people who became trans through porn addiction, people who suffer dissociative identity disorder brought on through sexual abuse as a child, and people who feel outcast in a number of ways and latch into the trans umbrella to feel like they belong and may even simply wish to feel special in a way (like "Tucutes" and people who think you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans).

You are who you are, and there is some reason for that. It's healthy and medically recommended to seek help and search within oneself for answers on "Why do I feel this way?", "What is my best course of action?", and "What will happen if I make these life-changing decisions?" It is insane to think such worries and self-reflections are transphobic.


Please know that you are more than welcome here, and even though I can be poor at responding in a timely manner at times...please know you can message me privately with any questions or if you just want to talk. Thank you so much for sharing, and I wish your only happiness and blessings in your life. I will be praying for you and I'm sending you a big hug! ❤

You are an absolute fucking legend, and I really hope your words here are seen by Era posters who might be lurking, unsure of where they belong. People like you show they belong right here.
 

Luipadre

Gold Member
Any PS5 pics or impressions

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Polygon and Kotaku mentioned the words "trans" 23+ times in their reviews but the words "bug" and "Glitch" zero times. Lmao, I can't find the time stamp feature for embedding but the video has those sectioned things and Polygon/Kotaku start at around 8 mins. Love how these people can't even review the damn game, a 7/10, eh, that'll really stick it to the bigots like the 5/10 for Days gone secured world peace and gained Kellie Plagge resounding fame for going against the straight, white conventional male character and hetronormative relationship you're forced to play out.


I think its immature to call someone out because they don't think the game you are hyped for is as good as you thought it would.

I don't get why people get so invested in these reviews if all you want is the reviewer to just agree with you every time. The funny part is, most of these people have not even played the game yet so its like what are you really arguing about if you have not experienced or seen enough game play to validate any of the reviewers points.
 
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I played Dragon Age Inquisition on Xbox 360 when it was released as cross gen. Ran like poop. You cannot expect a game in 2020 run amazing on a console released 7 years ago.
If a game is released on a particular console then I sure as hell expect the game to run well on that console; otherwise don't release it on the console?

She said she didn't care about shopping, didn't care about crafting, didn't care about upgrading gear... couldn't be bothered about sidequests how the hell do people that incompetent get to review a game like Cyberpunk
Sounds like the wrong kind of person to be reviewing a game like this anyway. That's like getting someone who hates sports to review a sports game or someone who hates RPGs to review a RPG game.
 
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hemo memo

You can't die before your death
She said she didn't care about shopping, didn't care about crafting, didn't care about upgrading gear... couldn't be bothered about sidequests how the hell do people that incompetent get to review a game like Cyberpunk

Yeah Animal Crossing is just boring. I don’t care about catching fish or finding fossils or the museum or decorate or craft. 3/10
 

M1chl

Currently Gif and Meme Champion
fun story: i got banned from ResetEra for saying i wish i could be transgender but felt too scared to go through with it.

i wanted to (still do) transition to female. i spoke about how i felt like killing myself. but apparently i'm transphobic.
Damn, that's some deeply upsetting stuff. So welcome here, I am sure everyone has your back if you want to talk!

And yes it made me rage, stupid fucking Reeetards.
 

Pakoe

Member
At one point she compared the shooting in the game to Call of Duty and because of that the shooting felt clunky. No joke, go watch it. It is unbelievable.

Lmao, COD still has the one of the best gunplay. Modern Warfare was only playable because of that, can't speak for Cold War though.
I'm not giving them any more views.
 
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John2290

Member
I think its immature to call someone out because they don't think the game you are hyped for is as good as you thought it would.

I don't get why people get so invested in these reviews if all you want is the reviewer to just agree with you every time. The funny part is, most of these people have not even played the game yet so its like what are you really arguing about if you have not experienced or seen enough game play to validate any of the reviewers points.
I know for a fact that the politics of the game not aligning with current day views is not going to bother me, I do know that bugs and glitches will. Look at my history, I was hyped for years, lost my hype in the two weeks before launch because of the way CDPR were handling things, cancelled my original pre-order which was to be the first physical game I would own in two years and now, after the reviews and the dust has slightly settled, with CDPR still being dicks not letting the reviewers footage out and trying to hook wink us, I'm very mildly hyped but somewhat skeptical given the context of the reviews and comments from people who've played it. The host from Pretty good gaming in the video called them out for talking about the politics more than the game itself, it has nothing to do with his or my hype but the fact that these outlets aren't games media, their political activists. I don't really give a fuck if that lives up to your standards or maturity or not, good day, sir.
 
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John2290

Member

And Blind Space Buns is a trans man, right?

EDIT: Or however you call them, I get dyslexic with the terminology. They're trans though, she used to be a man and the writer of the article is a Cis white male. Fuck these people being offended on behalf of others and cashing in on the clicks it creates.
 
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One thing I'm not liking about this game is something I've seen all throughout previous/current generation of open-world games: Lack of population. Incredibly weak CPU and equally slow storage are to blame. Will PS5/Series X patch increase density? Wonder what Rockstar is cooking up for these consoles. :pie_thinking:
 
If I can't drive my car in CP2077 the Bean way, I'm going to cancel Cyberpunk and all of CDPR personally.

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So you want to wake up late, rush out the door to your dentist appointment, and have to dress while you are driving? didn't know if there was a gif for that episode or not, lol!
 
In 2022, after quite a few patches, gamers will be arguing this game should have gotten a higher 9 than some other criticality acclaimed games.
 
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MadYarpen

Member
92 @ opencritic is fine.

I guess if it was actually ready they would get around 94... But this is a small punishment if the bugs are so bad...
 
Sure, but there are definitely women who play games that will be into it as well. Lots of men reviewed Animal Crossing too.

I can't believe I'm really having this conversation lol. :messenger_weary:

I don't understand your attitude about this.

Nobody is saying that women can't play Cyberpunk or are in any way not allowed. He's simply saying that this game is obviously going to appeal more to men ... and that's totally true. The audience who will actually play this game will be AT LEAST 98% male.

This isn't Animal crossing, or Two Point Hospital or even Civilization.

This just isn't the kind of game that will interest the vast vast majority of women. And that's OK. And if it does interest some women that's OK too. But they will represent a drop in the bucket next to the overwhelmingly male audience for this game.

And then this woman Kallie at Gamepot comes along and does everything to FEED the stereotype that women don't get this game. And it's not bullshit either. She had a JOB to do. Gamespot has potentially millions of viewers who wanted to KNOW about the game by watching their REVIEW.

Did she do her job? Did she inform potential customers about the actual game? No. She barely even touched the guns or the sidequests and literally admitted she didn't because "oooh yucky police." She couldn't tell us anything about crafting or inventory because she couldn't be fucking bothered. She didn't seem to actually know anything about this game - Why does this woman have A JOB reviewing videogames?

It wouldn't surprise me to learn she has an account at REEEEE and she's already been patted on the back for "doing her part for the trans community. We'll show those transphobic bioggots over at CDPR. Yasssss queen. Slay!"

I mean just LOOK at this garbage....



I used to post at the Gamespot forums so long ago. Since long before Gerstmann split to make Giant Bomb. Look how far Gamespot has fallen since then.
 
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Woggleman

Member
Plenty of women will like Cyberpunk. I can't recall her name but I stumbled upon a female youtuber who did a Cyberpunk cosplay video and my wife is very much looking forward to this game. Not all women are snowflakes who get offended by everything.
 
Plenty of women will like Cyberpunk. I can't recall her name but I stumbled upon a female youtuber who did a Cyberpunk cosplay video and my wife is very much looking forward to this game. Not all women are snowflakes who get offended by everything.

I'm a gamer and all of my friends are gamers. We all married women who play games. We have 6 to 8 player Civ 6 LAN games together almost every Saturday. But NONE of them can stand first person gaming. It makes them sick. And none of them are really interested in Cyberpunk. Sure they might watch me play a bit and "Oh is that Keanu? That's so cool" will definitely be happening.

But will they sit down for 50+ hours to finish a playthrough?

Nah.

This is a game for men that very few women will actually play, and that's OK.
 
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saintjules

Gold Member
I don't understand your attitude about this.

Nobody is saying that women can't play Cyberpunk or are in any way not allowed. He's simply saying that this game is obviously going to appeal more to men ... and that's totally true. The audience who will actually play this game will be AT LEAST 98% male.

This isn't Animal crossing, or Two Point Hospital or even Civilization.

This just isn't the kind of game that will interest the vast vast majority of women. And that's OK. And if it does interest some women that's OK too. But they will represent a drop in the bucket next to the overwhelmingly male audience for this game.

And then this woman Kallie at Gamepot comes along and does everything to FEED the stereotype that women don't get this game. And it's not bullshit either. She had a JOB to do. Gamespot has potentially millions of viewers who wanted to KNOW about the game by watching their REVIEW.

Did she do her job? Did she inform potential customers about the actual game? No. She barely even touched the guns or the sidequests and literally admitted she didn't because "oooh yucky police." She couldn't tell us anything about crafting or inventory because she couldn't be fucking bothered. She didn't seem to actually know anything about this game - Why does this woman have A JOB reviewing videogames?

It wouldn't surprise me to learn she has an account at REEEEE and she's already been patted on the back for "doing her part for the trans community. e'll show those tansphobic bioggots over at CDPR. Yasssss queen. Slay!"

I mean just LOOK at this garbage....



I used to post at the Gamespot forums so long ago. Since long before Gerstmann split to make Giant Bomb. Look how far Gamespot has fallen since then.


24k dislikes on their video. Nuts!

 
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Madflavor

Member
I wanted to give Kallie a fair shake and really see where she's coming from, but it sounds like she went into the game with certain expectations, and when they weren't met she made up her mind about the game and didn't give it a fair shake for the rest of her playthrough. A playthrough she rushed, where she barely did any content outside of the main story. It really sounds like to me that she wasn't the best choice to review this game.
 
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-Stryder-

Member
I feel like the other two in that video were kind of embarrassed, and if you don't think so then I'd like to know what "games journalist" would not be humiliated to hear a colleague say publicly "I just didn't feel like doing it lol. I crafted just once btw". Especially Jake. I noticed he would cut in when he thought Kallie was going to say something that was obviously not true. This might ruin Gamespots reliability.
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
Journalists mad they don’t get game for free

Journalists mad they can’t leak footage early

Journalists mad about all ists and phobias

Journalists mad they have to help cops in a video game to see content, when they are being paid to do so

Journalists mad the pre patched version of the game is buggy

I mean, I could just go on and on, but it would be redundant and pointless. Which is what game journalists are!
 
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I wanted to give Kallie a fair shake and really see where she's coming from, but it sounds like she went into the game with certain expectations, and when they weren't met she made up her mind about the game and didn't give it a fair shake for the rest of her playthrough. A playthrough she rushed, where she barely did any content outside of the main story. It really sounds like to me that she wasn't the best choice to review this game.

Exactly. And even if she wasn't the perfect person to do this review that shouldn't really matter if that's her JOB.

If this was just some woman who played the game in her freetime and didn't like in, had a shit take on it and wanted to share it with YouTube, fine.

But Kallie had a job to do. Maybe she could have had an ounce of professionalism. Maybe even if she thinks police are icky, she could do the sidequest anyway? Maybe if she doesn't "like all those guns" she could still try them and figure out the ins and outs of customization and attachments and then inform the viewers?

Nah. She just couldn't be bothered to do the job of a reviewer. But for some reason that is her job.
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
The poll in the IGN review

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Doesn’t the game have multiple beginnings and endings? Why they say it can be beaten by reaching the first path ending? That’s hardly completing the game or seeing all the content.

Why phrase it that way if not to make them look bad? It is misleading. At the very least it is a leading click baity question.
 
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Madflavor

Member
Exactly. And even if she wasn't the perfect person to do this review that shouldn't really matter if that's her JOB.

If this was just some woman who played the game in her freetime and didn't like in, had a shit take on it and wanted to share it with YouTube, fine.

But Kallie had a job to do. Maybe she could have had an ounce of professionalism. Maybe even if she thinks police are icky, she could do the sidequest anyway? Maybe if she doesn't "like all those guns" she could still try them and figure out the ins and outs of customization and attachments and then inform the viewers?

Nah. She just couldn't be bothered to do the job of a reviewer. But for some reason that is her job.

I absolutely do not agree with the death threats she's getting, but she should get called out for doing such a shoddy job. It's bad enough she's the "Too much water" chick, but if more reviews drop and the game gets more great word of mouth and goes out to be a classic, it's really not gonna be a good look.
 

Komatsu

Member
I absolutely do not agree with the death threats she's getting, but she should get called out for doing such a shoddy job. It's bad enough she's the "Too much water" chick, but if more reviews drop and the game gets more great word of mouth and goes out to be a classic, it's really not gonna be a good look.

I sincerely wish she did not have to get to sift through torrents of death threats whenever she reviews a big game, as nobody deserves abuse. That said, that review was absolutely subpar.
 
It's funny to meme this and all but it's actually not very funny. Imagine dedicating years of your life to an extremely demanding project giving it your heart and soul. Then some "journalist" that could not be bothered to do her job comes around and decides to take a dump on the game because she felt like it. Her agenda is obvious and it's disgusting. These MC scores are unfortunately extremely important for the devs and her 7 has an impact.
 
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