Dallas Police beatdown video released

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Use of force was warranted since the suspect made multiple attempts to deceive his pursuers by stopping and then speeding away again in a reckless fashion. Even though he had gotten off his bike, the officers had no reason to believe he wasn't about to bolt on foot or draw a weapon. The type of force used does appear excessive though; it seemed to serve little purpose other than for the officer to release some aggression. The department is handling this responsibly and there's no reason for the suspect to receive any monetary compensation for this besides paying for any needed medical treatment.

Edit: Jesus LocoMrPollock, we get it. You hate cops.
 
Parallax Scroll said:
Use of force was warranted since the suspect made multiple attempts to deceive his pursuers by stopping and then speeding away again in a reckless fashion. Even though he had gotten off his bike, the officers had no reason to believe he wasn't about to bolt on foot or draw a weapon. The type of force used does appear excessive though; it seemed to serve little purpose other than for the officer to release some aggression. The department is handling this responsibly and there's no reason for the suspect to receive any monetary compensation for this besides paying for any needed medical treatment.

Edit: Jesus LocoMrPollock, we get it. You hate cops.

Agreed..... that was barely a beatdown too.... seriously I've had bigger fights with my brothers than that. They were just making sure he wasn't going to toy with them again while they were cuffing him.

Sadly this moron will probably sue and get a nice settlement.
 
Hex said:
Him getting arrested would have been the accountability for the original infractions, probably would have been nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
But no, he decides to be an idiot and run and instead of just full on running, he decides to be a smart ass and toy with the cops and at the same time put people in jeopardy.
That is where the beatdown comes in.
Did they go too far? Yep.
But the victim act? You are not really finding alot of supporting ears in here.


I don't think he was toying with the cops, he just couldn't drive a bike for shit.
He wasn't starting and stopping on purpose, he was starting and stopping because he couldn't find the right gear, you can see and hear him every time he slowed down. The same reason he kept going of the road onto the sidewalk, he was turning the handlebars instead of leaning into the turns. Another giveaway is just the way he was sitting on the bike, too upright and stiff. I think he finally stopped because he realized that he was probably going to kill himself if he tried outrunning the cops anymore.
 
I don't know WHY people are trying to defend a case of police brutality. Yes, the guy broke the law, yes he deserves to be arrested, but NO, he shouldn't have been assaulted after pulling over and getting on the ground. This isn't a case of "bleeding heart criminal protection!", it's a clear case of brutality which is why its such a shitstorm and people are getting fired.

Parallax Scroll said:
Use of force was warranted since the suspect made multiple attempts to deceive his pursuers by stopping and then speeding away again in a reckless fashion. Even though he had gotten off his bike, the officers had no reason to believe he wasn't about to bolt on foot or draw a weapon. The type of force used does appear excessive though; it seemed to serve little purpose other than for the officer to release some aggression. The department is handling this responsibly and there's no reason for the suspect to receive any monetary compensation for this besides paying for any needed medical treatment.

Edit: Jesus LocoMrPollock, we get it. You hate cops.

you're right, the officer saying “Pull up alongside him so I can beat the shit out of him,” while in the car is just the professional, warranted course of action. I wish cops in my town were this great! Oh wait, apparently they are.


jagowar said:
Agreed..... that was barely a beatdown too.... seriously I've had bigger fights with my brothers than that. They were just making sure he wasn't going to toy with them again while they were cuffing him.

Sadly this moron will probably sue and get a nice settlement.

Great, so if you've had a bigger fight with a family member it's not considered a beating. :lol
 
exarkun said:
This came out yesterday at 5pm in Dallas. The news said there have already been 13 firings within the dept. PR nightmare for them with local new/national media starting to pick it up extensively. Local minority groups are up in arms.


The problem is that the same dallas pd had another incident with beating an inmate for essentially talking back to the police officer (rather rudely, and a bit roughly). Both of whom are minorities. They also let a white male who was driving a porche literally hit a black woman's car who was having trouble at the side of the road go free. Why is that wrong? She was in the car, him hitting her caused her car to flip three times, and she died instantly. He walked away with a few scratches. They "may" charge him with involuntary manslaughter. His excuse that they are buying? It was so foggy outside (there was fog but come on) that he couldn't see her emergency lights in time to stop.


Dallas police are racist as shit and have a history as such. Houston? Not so much. Austin? Not at all. San Antonio? They have drug problems from high hell but not as many race related incidents.

We shall ignore you. He deserved it for running away, one must break the law to maintain the law.
 
Hex said:
The whole bleeding heart protect the criminal crap has gotten far too out of hand.

Actually, it's the opposite. The whole ignore-basic-principles-of-rudimentary-due-process crap has gotten far too out of hand. Which probably in itself contributes greatly to people trying to evade law enforcement. Especially in a place like Texas, which is littered with kangaroo courts.

The executive does not accrue the power to punish merely because a person violated the law in plain view of them.
 
The cops deserved to be fired, but the perp deserves no more than what he paid in medical fees. Why should he be financially rewarded for the circumstance his stupidity helped create.:lol
No can do. Medical fees and no more.
 
I am confused with the responses here.

-Dude broke multiple laws and finally gets caught and surrenders. He should be punished to the full extent of the law.

-Police officers are frustrated with surrendered criminal so the use unnecessary force. The should be punished to the full extent of the law and are subject to the policies of the Police department.

Why the argument? Both broke rules both, get punished.

theignoramus said:
The cops deserved to be fired, but the perp deserves no more than what he paid in medical fees. Why should he be financially rewarded for the circumstance his stupidity helped create.:lol
No can do. Medical fees and no more.

Well yeah, but I believe that suing should never cover much more than medical fees and the like, so that is less of an issue of what this particular individual deserves and more on with what most people who sue deserve.

It is still the perp's right to sue though.
 
empty vessel said:
Actually, it's the opposite. The whole ignore-basic-principles-of-rudimentary-due-process crap has gotten far too out of hand. Which probably in itself contributes greatly to people trying to evade law enforcement. Especially in a place like Texas, which is littered with kangaroo courts.

The executive does not accrue the power to punish merely because a person violated the law in plain view of them.

QFT.

Can't say I was too outraged by the video. It wasn't an incredibly harsh beating, but the cops lost their jobs. Justice is served.
 
I love how criminal cop defense force doesn't mention anything about the cop turning away the dash cam. :lol

What's to hide?


That's technically a cover up. :D
 
kiruyama said:
you're right, the officer saying “Pull up alongside him so I can beat the shit out of him,” while in the car is just the professional, warranted course of action. I wish cops in my town were this great! Oh wait, apparently they are.
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I said the use of force was warranted. The officers' conduct was not.
 
Crag Dweller said:
Its no wonder why the guy was driving on the sidewalks, it looks like he's never rode a motorcycle before the way he was making his turns.

Yes, going to wide, not leaning the bike, putting your feet down. Police might have saved his life, because he looks destined to become roadkill hamburger with his riding 'style' and safety equipment.

Losing their jobs seems appropriate. But I laugh at the 'parked his motorcycle', looks like he missed another turn, didn't get off the bike till the car hit it. Another case of stupid criminal and overly violent police response.
 
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