DarknessTear
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I don't care about the games. But I did watch the first anime. So I guess this one will be confusing for someone who hasn't played 2? Shame. Guess I'll hold off.
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Danganronpa 3 The End of Hope's Peak Academy |OT| Nagito Komaeda's Wild Ride Part Two
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I don't care about the games. But I did watch the first anime. So I guess this one will be confusing for someone who hasn't played 2? Shame. Guess I'll hold off.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
True. Food poisoning sucks.
Maybe because it's not Junko this time?
You know that DR is mostly a game series, right?
And that the first anime is based on the games?
Just watch a let's play dude.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
That's exactly what Junko would want you to think.
Wait until the penultimate episode reveal of "IT WAS ME, NAEGI! IT WAS ME - JUNKO MOTHERFUCKING ENOSHIMA - ALL ALONG! AGAIN!"
Yeah, that was a great use of music.
Maybe one of Junko's personalities broke off and became sentient and became its own Junko.
Junko's alternate personalities would have to actually be real for that to happen.
Sky Interloper
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At this point I think Junko - in whatever plane she exists in - wants Makoto as bad as Mukuro did. Too bad for her it seems like Makoto's got Kyoko
and Hina
ChasingComets
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It is kind of the nature of the beast, given the short episode count and the killing game, that half the cast will pretty much be throwaway characters.
Permanently A
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Lmao
R_thanatos
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Watched the first episode...
DAT beautifull opening.
Kigiri da best
Asahina da best
Hagure pouting outside for some reason not being allowed in the building and misses being in the killing game by luck ... #as_expected
I'm actually hyped by this episode. thursday can't come soon enough.
That flashback on the remnants of despair was fantastic .. Mikan was great. ..and that Tease for the fight was magnificent. I want a full movie of the tracking of the remnants of despair.
DAT beautifull opening.
Kigiri da best
Asahina da best
Hagure pouting outside for some reason not being allowed in the building and misses being in the killing game by luck ... #as_expected
I'm actually hyped by this episode. thursday can't come soon enough.
That flashback on the remnants of despair was fantastic .. Mikan was great. ..and that Tease for the fight was magnificent. I want a full movie of the tracking of the remnants of despair.
Cautiously optimistic about this anime (despite Kishi's track record...) and thought the first episode was...surprisingly decent (theeeen again, I said the same thing about the DeSu 2 anime, sooo...). Hope it keeps up the quality (both this and the upcoming Despair anime).
OP and ED were decent too.
Was pretty cool seeing the Despair versions of the DR2 cast (that Mikan...) Wasn't expecting that first victim to die first (she looked the most "waifu" out of the cast lol), though I figured they'd kill someone who looked important first.
OP and ED were decent too.
Hours Left
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Speaking of Hina, it's odd that the only Future Foundation division head that's missing from the killing game is the 13th's, which is the division Hina works for.
R_thanatos
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MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
plz. im already 90% sure Hagakure and Hina will end up like Persona 4 cast members and pushed down into one gimmick
lmao, nah that's the fandom's job.
*side eyes people who still swear that akane and aoi have the same characterization*
PaulExcellent
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Hm.
Well, I have high expectations for where this is going, so I'll hold on hope.
Well, I have high expectations for where this is going, so I'll hold on hope.
aaand we have no idea what happened to her. She's not the chiaki from DR2.
Already Torn
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<3
He already proved he was the best in like the half second we saw of him.
They're very different but I think they're supposed to be weird reflections of each other, that's one of the reasons DR2 works so well. Everyone's like a twisted versions of the characters you just saw.
Miaya looks literally nothing like Chiaki dude. Your welcome to hold onto your theories but it makes literally no sense. If she is alive and a part of the Future Foundation in a significant way, she's probably Aoi's boss/the head of the 13th Division
Yeah definitely, but I have seen people claim that they have literally the same personality which is like.
Not... really? Akane is more likely to beat up her friends than try to emotionally support them (not a knock on either character, they're both really great lol)
Already Torn
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Oh yeah, after probably the first trial you realize they're very very different. I don't know why people would argue otherwise.
Friggingingin chill dude, my theory is awesome
Fully expecting it to be wrong, but I'm sure I'm right about hiro
A Link to the Past
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So uh, I looked on funimation's website and it says "episode 13"
Is that episode one? I just want to make 100% sure >->
Is that episode one? I just want to make 100% sure >->
They're stupidly continuing the episode numbers from the DR1 adaptation
Off topic but relevant to Danganronpa. (I'll remove this post if it's against the rules) Kotobukiya is doing a re-release of the 1/8 Hajime Hinata and 1/8 Nagito Komaeda.
Hajime Hinata 6,720 Yen (65.03 USD)
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-005594
Nagito Komaeda 6,980 Yen (67.55 USD)
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-006927
This is a steal! The after market on the original scales are ridiculous. If you love Danganronpa and want two amazing scale figures of Hajime and Nagito you need to pre-order these! I own both and they are so worth it. I paid 200.00 for the pair on the aftermarket because I didn't think they would be re-released. Kotobukiya proved me wrong. Just a heads up, don't miss out on these amazing Danganronpa collectables!!
Hajime Hinata 6,720 Yen (65.03 USD)
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-005594
Nagito Komaeda 6,980 Yen (67.55 USD)
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-006927
This is a steal! The after market on the original scales are ridiculous. If you love Danganronpa and want two amazing scale figures of Hajime and Nagito you need to pre-order these! I own both and they are so worth it. I paid 200.00 for the pair on the aftermarket because I didn't think they would be re-released. Kotobukiya proved me wrong. Just a heads up, don't miss out on these amazing Danganronpa collectables!!
No, the website is a mess. For some reason it takes you to the page for DR1 on some clicks, if you go back and click on it again it'll eventually take you to the page for DR3.
IMO the subbing is pretty bad
Placement is wack in some shots as is timing. Also, the translation seems confused. They keep monokuma (good) but use high school instead of academy (wtf). I also dislike how they stuck to the SHSL terms and not the easier to say, easier to read and far far cooler "ultimate"
High school level despair sounds fucking lame. Ultimate despair sounds awesome. It's a mess of translation liberties and direct translations with no real reason why
And funimation baked that shit into the video so we can't change it.
Placement is wack in some shots as is timing. Also, the translation seems confused. They keep monokuma (good) but use high school instead of academy (wtf). I also dislike how they stuck to the SHSL terms and not the easier to say, easier to read and far far cooler "ultimate"
High school level despair sounds fucking lame. Ultimate despair sounds awesome. It's a mess of translation liberties and direct translations with no real reason why
And funimation baked that shit into the video so we can't change it.
I don't have preference between SHSL and Ultimate, although SHSL is much more 'DanganRonpa'-style. For subs they really should've gone for Ultimate because "Super High School Level" takes forever to read relative to most words and you're gonna have to end up pausing to make sure you read everything write.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
My thoughts exactly.
Mannnnnm, if only they were characters I liked more. I'd pay for a Makoto or Kyoko reprint.
Also the nenderoids seem so much better quality which is disappointing. :/
Algernon Product Makoto can still be gotten relatively cheap, but Phat Company, or Flare Kyoko really are fucking expensive. They need re-releases, hopefully with the Resurgent of Danganronpa they will get a re-release but then again it seems unlikely given the manufacturers of the two Kyoko statues. As for the nendoroids in my opinion the only two that translated well was Monokuma and Monomi, Makoto just looks weird. My brother owns every Scale from Danganronpa including Nenderoids and the Nenderoids don't even come close to the various statues made from Danganronpa, especially Kotobukiya's work.
It's the Orenronen term... which I will fight to the death over.
Saw it. It's more of the same. And by that I mean great. I'm much more interested in the Despair version though.
Daisaku Bandai though. This voice slays me.
ChasingComets
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The term doesn't translate very well to English, especially when you consider it is abbreviated into 3 syllables in Japanese. I didn't mind it one way or the other, but as the others mentioned, I wished they went with localised terms, to keep the subtitles concise.
DrunkShogun
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Just saw it and have higher hopes than I did for the original anime series. Hopefully they pace it out and don't do a murder per week mystery. Still interested in the other series more because I have doubts that long running series will be able to stick its landing.
Azure Phoenix
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Fair enough, I wasn't aware of the situation with the original VA. That said I still don't think Monokuma's new VA fits, the upupupu and voice in general doesn't convey the insanity of the old Monokuma, it lacked impact. Maybe it will get a bit better, but Upupupu is iconic like Bryan Fury's laugh, you just can't afford to mess it up.
tansuikabutsu
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(full disclosure: I use a different username here, but I coined SHSL oh so many years ago now)
First, it's not 3 syllables in Japanese -- it's technically 8 moras (cho-u-ko-u-ko-u-kyu-u), which is what Japanese uses in lieu of syllables, but I'll give you 4 if you can't hear the difference. "Ultimate" is 3 syllables and "Super High School Level" is 6, so we're all over the place. To my ears, "Super High School Level" fits exactly the same speech pattern as a correct pronunciation of "Choukoukoukyuu", while "Ultimate" sounds way too short.
But that's not even that important. Here's why I defend my translation (or at least a translation in its spirit, I'm not particularly tied to SHSL) over Ultimate. It's basically the same argument for why I'll defend Monobear over Monokuma forever:
Translations, at their best, have to struggle the long spectrum between lexical-accuracy and free-form rewrites in order to achieve the ultimate goal, which is to have the source and target texts have roughly the same feel (while keeping the meaning intact, of course). Those who argue that "Super High School Level" sounds awkward in English are missing an important point - "Choukoukoukyuu" is super-awkward in Japanese too. "Choukoukoukyuu Zetsubou" isn't supposed to be menacing - it's supposed to sound ridiculous.
My guess is that the term was chosen carefully. Dangan Ronpa is, among other things, a comedy and a satire. Choukoukoukyuu is exactly a satirical take on the pompous title a fancy private academy might give its students. The series does the same thing with the name of the Incident - unnecessary long and pompous, and repeated ad nauseam in the dialogue for comedic effect. Add to that the implications of the title - the students are still High School Level (that is, they're *not* the best in the entire world at what they're doing, just among their age group) - but they're *Super* that level! Then, of course, the series likes to play with that - we have the Choushogakkoukyuu (Super Elementary School Level) kids in AE, whose skills are only fit for elementary school, and in this new series everyone is titled Former-SHSL, almost as if to say high school was the highlight of their entire lives (Japan, anyone?) Not to mention that being the best student council president isn't exactly a useful skill post high school.
So, yeah - "Ultimate" is bland, inaccurate, sounds cool instead of ridiculous, and removes the satire from the text. I like a lot of things about NISA's translation, but that's not on one of them.
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