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[Blargonaut]

lol

You should've killed me last Night, scum

But you just couldn't risk it without making Darryl et al. look even worse, couldn't you?

ha. ha. ha.

 

[Blargonaut]

I'm just messing with ya

pls, continue

 

[Rats Off To Ya]

"I want to make sure no one contradicts me before I take my Role-claim further"​

After your "hammer trap" on Flame, and now this, it's impossible to take you seriously. I hope I die soon just so everyone realizes how useless and/or scummy you are.

 

[Blargonaut]

After your "hammer trap" on Flame, and now this, it's impossible to take you seriously. I hope I die soon just so everyone realizes how useless and/or scummy you are.

boo

Sounds like I won't be getting my Darryl lynch, after all

QQ

GG

 

[Blargonaut]

clock's ticking on those names, Rats

This type of informational commodity tends to depreciate in value

It takes quality time and effort to counterfeit intel, doesn't it?

Helps if you have friends tho

 

[Blargonaut]

UNVOTE: Darryl

VOTE: Darryl

UNVOTE: Darryl

VOTE: Darryl

 

[Rats Off To Ya]

clock's ticking on those names, Rats

This type of informational commodity tends to depreciate in value

It takes quality time and effort to counterfeit intel, doesn't it?

Helps if you have friends tho

And let me guess. Now if I give you what you want, I'm just trying to cover my ass?

Isn't that how these traps of yours work? No matter what happens, Blarg is right.

I explained my intentions. Agree or disagree, I've made my choice.

 

[Blargonaut]

And let me guess. Now if I give you what you want, I'm just trying to cover my ass?

Isn't that how these traps of yours work? No matter what happens, Blarg is right.

I explained my intentions. Agree or disagree, I've made my choice.

And that is...?

 

[ultron87]

Go for it, Rats.

 

[Rats Off To Ya]

And that is...?

Like I said, I want to get a general OK from the room before I actually reveal. I don't see much reason not to, but I'm not omniscient.

I will absolutely reveal this information after most people chime in without any major objections.

.

 

[Blargonaut]

Go for it, Rats.

patience, he's just double-checking with his scum buddies whether his name-claims corroborate with what happened on N2

 

[Blargonaut]

.

circular. How Ouroburlesque of you

Come back when you're ready to play Mafia

 

[Blargonaut]

Let's see, what's on MY AGENDA Today?

There's reminding everyone of Royal_Flush's D1 typo where he said "Scum" instead of Town, can't forget that

oh, and there's "Town Leader" Darryl who [REDACTED]






...strange, why is that-


oh, right, we're not allowed to talk badly of Town Leader nor reiterate his scummy behaviour by association, much less question him

Well, that's my work done for the Day, I guess

cya all Tomorrow then

 

[Blargonaut]

...I mean, c'mon, scum team, you could at least pretend to pressure him, that's like, free Townie points at this stage.

But, nothing? Nothing at all? Talk about a wasted opportunity.

Although, I expect now you'll go all, "oh, because no one's gunning after him like that except you Blarg, I'm inclined to believe him as Town more because of that apparent isolation"

*sigh*

but not even that

So disappointed

 

[ultron87]

patience, he's just double-checking with his scum buddies whether his name-claims corroborate with what happened on N2

I'm certainly skeptical of the role claim for no reason, but hearing the claims of what he did, false or not, are better than him just sitting on it with a new target on his back if he is telling the truth. Can't put the claim back in the bottle so might as well see what he's been up to/claims to be up to.

 

[Blargonaut]

Are you fatigued, scum?

Are you tired?

Clearly, you're just pretending to be ghosts

 

[Giant Panda]

Rats you should share your actions with us.

 

[Trigger]

You might as well reveal what you know. I'm not sure who would object.

 

[ultron87]

A role claim out from nowhere does seem like a nice convenient distraction from TheWorthyEdge's leavings.

 

[Rats Off To Ya]

I'm certainly skeptical of the role claim for no reason, but hearing the claims of what he did, false or not, are better than him just sitting on it with a new target on his back if he is telling the truth. Can't put the claim back in the bottle so might as well see what he's been up to/claims to be up to.

The reason is that my role is far more likely to do harm than good and I want to get the facts out there before the event that I die.

Anyway, seems like most of the more active people have chimed and I don't want to drag this out any longer than necessary. Again, I don't really have any reservations about putting this out, just didn't want to rush into anything in case there was a factor I wasn't considering.

I've generally been switching a person I feel okay about (and think is not unlikely to be night killed) with a person I'm not so okay about.

Night 1:
CornBurrito and Giant Panda

Corn gave me the worst vibes of anyone on Day One, as I expressed with my words and my vote. Panda wasn't much of a factor at all on this day, which is the kind of person scum often targets on the first night.

Night 2:
Blarg and StarSketch

I started becoming suspicious of Blarg after Day Two. I wasn't reading Star either way, but there was a post where Blarg suggested that if we had a vig they should target her. So I switched the two of them on the off chance that we did indeed have a vig and they did indeed target Star.

Night 3:
Royal_Flush and Darryl

I've begun to have my own doubts about Darryl. Meanwhile, Flush hasn't said much in this game but I don't have much reason to think he's scum and what little input he's had has been fairly solid. Could be a decent low-key target for scum, I dunno.

The last switch really felt more random to me than the other two. I had no idea what to make of the state of this game. Fortunately the enemy is finally down a man, and frankly, Worthy hasn't shown himself to be the most elegant of scum players in the past. I'm pretty sure there's a lot we can glean by examining his posts in detail. One thing I will never forget from the Cthulhu game is that Worthy really went overboard with his bussing. Could be something to look for.

 

[Blargonaut]

finally

interesting stuff, Rats

*snip*

The last switch really felt more random to me than the other two. I had no idea what to make of the state of this game. Fortunately the enemy is finally down a man, and frankly, Worthy hasn't shown himself to be the most elegant of scum players in the past. I'm pretty sure there's a lot we can glean by examining his posts in detail. One thing I will never forget from the Cthulhu game is that Worthy really went overboard with his bussing. Could be something to look for.

subtle, not so subtle

6/10

 

[Darryl]

lol

You should've killed me last Night, scum

But you just couldn't risk it without making Darryl et al. look even worse, couldn't you?

ha. ha. ha.

what's the scenario here in which I'm scum? I have TWE soft claim DP, I come in to call BS, and then have him tell chat he didn't see he day started? Like that's a realistic scenario? my scum mastermind plot? you are trying so hard to keep your narrative straight, it is like you're scum and you're sitting there laughing at yourself trying to make the best of it

 

[Blargonaut]

what's the scenario here in which I'm scum? I have TWE soft claim DP, I come in to call BS, and then have him tell chat he didn't see he day started? Like that's a realistic scenario? my scum mastermind plot? you are trying so hard to keep your narrative straight, it is like you're scum and you're sitting there laughing at yourself trying to make the best of it

nah

I meant that post more in the 'your-most-vocal-opponent-was-killed-thus-casting-suspicion-on-you-due-to-an-obvious-motive' sense

Try harder next time, apply yourself, etc.

 

[Blargonaut]

StarSketch, what do you think about Darryl?

 

[Blargonaut]

what's the scenario here in which I'm scum? I have TWE soft claim DP, I come in to call BS, and then have him tell chat he didn't see he day started? Like that's a realistic scenario? my scum mastermind plot? you are trying so hard to keep your narrative straight, it is like you're scum and you're sitting there laughing at yourself trying to make the best of it

...wait, really?

I dunno, I feel like I've grown pretty consistent with what I've been gunning for this game in your and Star's banishment, what with all your #scumtells-by-association with StarSketch that I keep on pointing out like a broken record, not to mention your random lynch targets like OA for her apparent sake

It's not like I went full caps for those posts either

But you're Town Leader, so you must be right about me being unfocused

sorry, I gladly submit to being lynched Today to atone for my sins against you

Everyone, please banish me post-haste, now that Town Leader's monolithic burning eye from up on his lofty perch on the battlements of his infernal tower amidst volcanic clouds of the soot of insidious industry has not only fixated upon and pierced my very soul from afar with his esoteric light baring the unquestionable truth of my futile mortal pettiness to me but first crafted said quintessence of mine from the inscrutable nothingness of the cosmos to lock it within my frail vessel of flesh I transgress to call a body just so that I may be damned for existing without him, without Darryl

 

[Darryl]

let's wait a while before you start beating this broken drum plz. we just caught a scum from what was a incredibly bleak game. there's a lot of important stuff to look and talk about

 

[StarSketch]

StarSketch, what do you think about Darryl?

Honestly, I was going to vote for him at the start of the day, but then TWE flipped scum.

 

[Blargonaut]

let's wait a while before you start beating this broken drum plz. we just caught a scum from what was a incredibly bleak game. there's a lot of important stuff to look and talk about

 

[Darryl]

Honestly, I was going to vote for him at the start of the day, but then TWE flipped scum.

you were gonna vote for me at the start of the day with the role that you suspect me to have ?

 

[Blargonaut]

Honestly, I was going to vote for him at the start of the day, but then TWE flipped scum.

The same TWE who practically worshipped Darryl Yesterday, if I recall correctly?

 

[StarSketch]

you were gonna vote for me at the start of the day with the role that you suspect me to have ?

The longer this goes on, the less likely you have that role.

Either Scum is leaving you alone because they want the Anon vote to happen later, or you're scum.

The same TWE who practically worshipped Darryl Yesterday, if I recall correctly?

You don't, because I'm pretty sure you and TWE were too busy trying to save Oceanic, while Darryl was the one who seconded that train.

 

[Blargonaut]

you were gonna vote for me at the start of the day with the role that you suspect me to have ?

*eyeroll*

 

[Darryl]

The longer this goes on, the less likely you have that role.

Either Scum is leaving you alone because they want the Anon vote to happen later, or you're scum.



You don't, because I'm pretty sure you and TWE were too busy trying to save Oceanic, while Darryl was the one who seconded that train.

Or they're afraid of wasting PRs on me. Who is the better Doctor/Watcher/Tracker target? Who should Rats have been switching to save? Why was Rats even using his role to cause chaos when he could use it to save a practically confirmed townie instead?

 

[Darryl]

Since we have some more info, my top 3 town are Melonrabbit, Giant Panda, and Stanley. My top 3 scum are Blarg, StarSketch, and Ultron87.

I think those 3 are just bussing each other and failing at it.

 

[melonrabbit]

Just got back from work and was not expecting this to happen. TWE was whom I was planning on focusing in on for D4.

 

[Blargonaut]

*snip*

You don't, because I'm pretty sure you and TWE were too busy trying to save Oceanic, while Darryl was the one who seconded that train.

LOL

I think we both need to refresh our memories on recent events then, because I'm pretty sure I didn't do that, much less attempt saving OA.

In fact, I recall I made a grand total of 2 posts after Darryl BEGAN that OceanicAir train NEAR THE CLOSE OF THE DAY.

And, that Darryl explicitly said to reconsider YOU for lynching only AFTER we lynched OceanicAir and he flipped as scum (which OA DIDN'T, which MIGHT suggest that Darryl knew OA WASN'T scum TO BEGIN WITH, thereby rather conveniently taking you out of that realm of possibility, huh SS?):

If OA is scum, we can give an SS lynch another thought. Look at his absent thoughts on her

So, now what, Darryl? Star?

If SS is really Town and you Darryl as scum have been setting me up this whole time knowing that I've been gunning rather stubbornly against her, is this the culmination for you? That we lynch her Today, and then when she flips Town, I lose all my credibility in pursuing you and you get away for the rest of the game after offering her as tribute with no one the wiser to your scheming? Clever, but I don't think so, Darryl. This board game's changed, and YOU'RE the one we'll need to flip now to compare to her actions, NOT the other way around. Not anymore, not after what you did Yesterday, not after what you said.

The time for Monopoly's over, Darryl

It's time to bring it back to LIFE

Star pls

Darryl pls

pls


Just banish me already, I can only laugh at my own jokes so much

 

[melonrabbit]

I guess what bugs me stil is the question -what was different about Night 2 that only one person was killed.

 

[Darryl]

I was hoping we would catch OA as being scum and inadvertently catch SS by association. I would think this is something you would want, and I said that to persuade you since you really want to lynch her. You apparently didn't like that, probably because you knew OA was never scum to begin with. You just really want to bus SS. You can see my argument against OA on the other page. It's a real argument, based on evidence in the thread. You seem to have known the entire time that it would lead no where. Strongly inspired by OA's persuasive 17 posts? I don't believe it.

 

[StarSketch]

LOL

I think we both need to refresh our memories on recent events then, because I'm pretty sure I didn't do that, much less attempt saving OA.

In fact, I recall I made a grand total of 2 posts after Darryl BEGAN that OceanicAir train NEAR THE CLOSE OF THE DAY.

And, that Darryl explicitly said to reconsider YOU for lynching only AFTER we lynched OceanicAir and he flipped as scum (which OA DIDN'T, which MIGHT suggest that Darryl knew OA WASN'T scum TO BEGIN WITH, thereby rather conveniently taking you out of that realm of possibility, huh SS?):

My point on TWE still stands though, thus negating the comment you made about him and Darryl.

Both of you are wrong about me being scum, but I'm beating a dead horse.


You wanna know what I think, though?

Both of you are giving me all kinds of bad vibes, and if it wasn't for the fact that you're constantly going for each other, I'd say you were both scum.

However:


Vote: Darryl

Darryl is the common point between all 3 townie lynches.

 

[Darryl]

u telling me we just lynched a scum and u think u should start the day off with an omgus

 

[kingkitty]

When it comes to TWE. I wonder if it really was a bold scum plan, or scum who just happened to fuck up by accident. I want to say former, since their play was able to reel in Enker (or it didn't, and he was killed by cornbro, someone else, scum rng). But role blocker seems like a decent scum role, was there not a vanilla maf/less useful role to gamble with? Did TWE get the short end of the straw? Did TWE really just leeroy jenkins by accident? oh well, maf suks.

Considering Corn was 2 shot bulletproof, that might be another killer of some sort. But if theoretically there could be three kills per night, where was the third kill during any of these nights?

My guess is that Corn was attacked by scum on Night 1, realized nothing happened, so they did it again on Night 2, and finally on Night 3. Corn was killing every night, because why wouldn't he. I'm thinking that maybe the third mysterious killer took someone out on Night 1. Mysterious killer might not have killed anyone on Night 2 or 3 because he or she ran out or wanted to save up on the x-shot ability. Or this person was blocked. Or this person shared the same kill on the same target. Or something.

I expect Blarg to write a graph of what happened after the game is over.

Like KingKitty said though. I feel Scum wouldn't switch so fast.

Hm...I still am not a fan of Corn's currently ala my post on the top of the page but I don't feel he'd be as blatantly taken off guard as he was...

This was in regards to the "blarg is right, no wait blarg is wrong" switching during the span of 1 page. gryvvaan, corn, TWE (although he didnt vote) were a part of this.

Looking at this quote, I feel like TWE might be trying to give some rope to scumbro gryvvan. But then I laffed a little, because despite being involved in the fast switch, he talked like he was a neutral bystander.

I'll have to relook at how people interacted with TWE during the earlier day phases. I'm sure there's some nugget of gold.

 

[Giant Panda]

What kind of precedent is there for town switchers? I've only seen it used as a scum role before, so I have some misgivings about Rats.

 

[Giant Panda]

Since we have some more info, my top 3 town are Melonrabbit, Giant Panda, and Stanley. My top 3 scum are Blarg, StarSketch, and Ultron87.

I think those 3 are just bussing each other and failing at it.

But if you're town, doesn't that mean that no scum voted to save StarSketch? Would scum really risk that?

 

[StarSketch]

u telling me we just lynched a scum and u think u should start the day off with an omgus

We didn't lynch anyone. He got killed by a Neutral. Town's track record is still 0.

Whatever, we have 3 days, There's plenty of time for me to pick someone else.

 

[Darryl]

But if you're town, doesn't that mean that no scum voted to save StarSketch? Would scum really risk that?

Blarg was voting on Sky, so no, there isn't just me left. Blarg removing his vote last minute doesn't matter to me. Either way, it's possible. In the scenario I'm proposing, they're all bussing each other right now. Them having bussed her on D1 doesn't change anything.

Look at what TWE was doing last day phase at the end of the night. It's a reverse bus. He was throwing himself in front of townie OA. I agree with Rats. I think that not only was he reverse-bussing, he was probably bussing as well. Trying to save townie OA and also trying to lynch teammate Blarg. Trying to save OA was a blatant scum move to me without a claim, and I think its just as likely he knew he wasn't going to die so he was taking advantage of the time and was posturing against Blarg.

Why else would he be voting on Blarg? Anyone have any ideas? There was no way Blarg was going to be lynched last night. Why did he make such an extravaganza, condemning me as a bad "town leader"? Why the show? Did he throw himself in front of a town player and instead condemned another player he knows is town? No. He was trying to curry favor there, so it's likely he was voting against fellow mafia.

Through this connection, if it's accurate, thus explains both Blarg's plays surrounding SS, and potentially Ultron87's (mainly explains his bussing, bad votes on Blarg/TWE, and inability to form an opinion on an OA lynch despite OA having made enough posts that someone could read in 5 min)

We didn't lynch anyone. He got killed by a Neutral. Town's track record is still 0.

Whatever, we have 3 days, There's plenty of time for me to pick someone else.

Honestly SS. This is misguided hubris or a sloppy attempt to demoralize a team. I am saying that now we have 13 pages worth of analysis to be made because we now know who a scum player is. Are you town? Do you want to find scum? If so, you should be fucking ecstatic because what was once a leadless and boring game for 3 days finally has evidence for us to go on without it being a popularity contest. And now you and Blarg both want to go back to playing the same old popularity contest. It speaks volumes to me about your approach to this game. You might not feel the sudden shift in tone the game just took because you're in a different mindset. You're surviving, not hunting.

No one cares that we didn't kill TWE. He is dead. Thank Corn. Let us bask in his neutral loss.

 

[Rats Off To Ya]

The same TWE who practically worshipped Darryl Yesterday, if I recall correctly?

Funny you bring that up. Like I said, Worthy was anything but a subtle player. The fact that he was so insistent about hitching his wagon to Darryl's makes me believe in Darryl's Townhood more than anything else. In our last game together, I believe scum Worthy tried to butter me up with similar praise. I was, as always, Town As Fuck in that game.

Or they're afraid of wasting PRs on me. Who is the better Doctor/Watcher/Tracker target? Who should Rats have been switching to save? Why was Rats even using his role to cause chaos when he could use it to save a practically confirmed townie instead?

Nobody in this game is a "practically confirmed Townie" in my opinion. Certainly not you, especially before Worthy's death.

What kind of precedent is there for town switchers? I've only seen it used as a scum role before, so I have some misgivings about Rats.

Gafia games have had Town switchers in the past.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bus_Driver

It's absolutely known to be a Town role, just not a very good one.

 

[Rats Off To Ya]

When it comes to TWE. I wonder if it really was a bold scum plan, or scum who just happened to fuck up by accident. I want to say former, since their play was able to reel in Enker (or it didn't, and he was killed by cornbro, someone else, scum rng). But role blocker seems like a decent scum role, was there not a vanilla maf/less useful role to gamble with? Did TWE get the short end of the straw? Did TWE really just leeroy jenkins by accident? oh well, maf suks.

Considering Corn was 2 shot bulletproof, that might be another killer of some sort. But if theoretically there could be three kills per night, where was the third kill during any of these nights?

My guess is that Corn was attacked by scum on Night 1, realized nothing happened, so they did it again on Night 2, and finally on Night 3. Corn was killing every night, because why wouldn't he. I'm thinking that maybe the third mysterious killer took someone out on Night 1. Mysterious killer might not have killed anyone on Night 2 or 3 because he or she ran out or wanted to save up on the x-shot ability. Or this person was blocked. Or this person shared the same kill on the same target. Or something.

I expect Blarg to write a graph of what happened after the game is over.

More likely scenario (IMO):

Scum and Corn both kill on Night One. On Night Two, scum targets Corn and it doesn't work. On Night Three, Corn is targeted by a scum Strongman (a common counter to bulletproof players).

 

[StarSketch]

Blarg was voting on Sky, so no, there isn't just me left. Blarg removing his vote last minute doesn't matter to me. Either way, it's possible. In the scenario I'm proposing, they're all bussing each other right now. Them having bussed her on D1 doesn't change anything.

Look at what TWE was doing last day phase at the end of the night. It's a reverse bus. He was throwing himself in front of townie OA. I agree with Rats. I think that not only was he reverse-bussing, he was probably bussing as well. Trying to save townie OA and also trying to lynch teammate Blarg. Trying to save OA was a blatant scum move to me without a claim, and I think its just as likely he knew he wasn't going to die so he was taking advantage of the time and was posturing against Blarg.

Why else would he be voting on Blarg? Anyone have any ideas? There was no way Blarg was going to be lynched last night. Why did he make such an extravaganza, condemning me as a bad "town leader"? Why the show? Did he throw himself in front of a town player and instead condemned another player he knows is town? No. He was trying to curry favor there, so it's likely he was voting against fellow mafia.

Through this connection, if it's accurate, thus explains both Blarg's plays surrounding SS, and potentially Ultron87's (mainly explains his bussing, bad votes on Blarg/TWE, and inability to form an opinion on an OA lynch despite OA having made enough posts that someone could read in 5 min)



Honestly SS. This is misguided hubris or a sloppy attempt to demoralize a team. I am saying that now we have 13 pages worth of analysis to be made because we now know who a scum player is. Are you town? Do you want to find scum? If so, you should be fucking ecstatic because what was once a leadless and boring game for 3 days finally has evidence for us to go on without it being a popularity contest. And now you and Blarg both want to go back to playing the same old popularity contest. It speaks volumes to me about your approach to this game. You might not feel the sudden shift in tone the game just took because you're in a different mindset. You're surviving, not hunting.

No one cares that we didn't kill TWE. He is dead. Thank Corn. Let us bask in his neutral loss.

I am glad A scum player died. But on the other hand we're still right where we were on D3- tunneling on me, Blarg, and you.

I know my alignment, and I'm no longer willing to waste town's time by being on the table for a mislynch. If this were day 2 I'd still be like, "Whatever, there's still time, maybe we can turn this around".

But people have been chasing a dead lead by trying to get me lynched for 3 days straight, and I understand it's my fault for being inactive and not watching myself when I talk as usual. The minute I try to do something, it gets read as a #scumtell.

unvote

I will go back and read TWE's posts and analyze them once I get back to the computer.

 

[Darryl]

Funny you bring that up. Like I said, Worthy was anything but a subtle player. The fact that he was so insistent about hitching his wagon to Darryl's makes me believe in Darryl's Townhood more than anything else. In our last game together, I believe scum Worthy tried to butter me up with similar praise. I was, as always, Town As Fuck in that game.



Nobody in this game is a "practically confirmed Townie" in my opinion. Certainly not you, especially before Worthy's death.



Gafia games have had Town switchers in the past.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bus_Driver

It's absolutely known to be a Town role, just not a very good one.

You could have pressed me for a full DP role claim, and then tried to save me. We know there is a DP role. It is obviously a town role. If DP is in this game and it is anyone but me, they could easily get a free scum lynch right now by counter claiming.

You didn't. So in the instance that I'm really Danny Phantom, you let a scenario pass where scum knew who I was yet I wasn't being protected. You didn't play your role to the best of your ability. Especially when your role is blatantly about obfuscating the night lynch of Danny Phantom.

 

[Rats Off To Ya]

You didn't play your role to the best of your ability.

Well you got me there. That's a ballsier gambit than I would typically attempt on Day One. Honestly, I dismissed all that drama as some provocative shit-stirring over what was, to me, a pretty obvious joke. I didn't place much stock at all in Worthy's comment or the reaction to it.