why would someone claim a role guaranteed to be in the game as a joke?
Is there anything from PW that makes you think this is a real claim?Right. Which is why it being a "just a prank bro" claim really suspicious.
I'm more inclined to think its a real claim than a scum claim.
Is there anything from PW that makes you think this is a real claim?
Unless I'm mistaken, TWE is the player from PW that freaked out once like two or so people honed in on him as scum. I can't imagine that someone who broke down over some light questioning would have the nads to fake claim DP as a legitimate scum tactic.
Which leaves either
A) Real claim.
B) "Just a prank bro"
The former might be justifiable. Usually role claiming is pretty fuckin bad, but I have to wonder if there's some sort of protection given that Danny's death results in an anon lynch. In fact, that opens up a gambit. Anonymous lynching has the greatest effect mid-game. It means TWE might be left alive longer, since he probably won't be randomly targeted for NK. This does aid scum, but if Danny has some powerful ability additional time to use it might be key.
Unless I'm mistaken, TWE is the player from PW that freaked out once like two or so people honed in on him as scum. I can't imagine that someone who broke down over some light questioning would have the nads to fake claim DP as a legitimate scum tactic.
Which leaves either
A) Real claim.
B) "Just a prank bro"
The former might be justifiable. Usually role claiming is pretty fuckin bad, but I have to wonder if there's some sort of protection given that Danny's death results in an anon lynch. In fact, that opens up a gambit. Anonymous lynching has the greatest effect mid-game. It means TWE might be left alive longer, since he probably won't be randomly targeted for NK. This does aid scum, but if Danny has some powerful ability additional time to use it might be key.
Does PW affect your view of him as a town? Like how he just role claimed out of the blue?
Unless Danny can't be NK'd or something I don't understand why anyone would claim this early. Especially as Danny might be the most powerful role in the game and his death could cost town the game.
You don't subscribe to every Gafia game?Yes, his behavior in PW does influence my view of him in this game. I'm going to dig around PW if I can find the thread, because I want to make sure I'm not confusing two different players for the same one.
It will give us zero voting records and scum the chance to choose whom to lynch. Not game breaking, no role should break the game, but still pretty bad.As for the claim: Danny dying early on won't cost town the game. Anonymous lynches are more powerful later on in the game. At which point Danny already had a higher chance of dying just by random selection of NK targets. Or TWE somehow ever becoming a suspect and being forced to claim to avoid being lynched.
I'm not saying it was a good idea to claim. I'm just saying it might not be the disaster some of you think it is.
why would someone claim a role guaranteed to be in the game as a joke?
Not really...Did I miss anything or are people taking a single post that could easily be a joke way too seriously?
Looking through the signup thread I saw that his timezone was PDT. He said work ended at 6pm which is 3am CEST >_>That said, TWE better show his ass at some point.
VOTE: TheWorthyEdgeWait...had the day even have started when I posted that?
Wait...had the day even have started when I posted that?
Have you lost the other half of our mind?I honestly thought it started today hence me saying that I wasn't going to be there for the start of it...
Welp.
Ok, wasn't expecting that explanation.
The original posts do nothing to contradict it, but at the same time, weird mistake to make.
Corn had asked if the day had started, no one answered him, then the survey and I thought it was a joke. Then the first two replies after knew it was a joke...? I think?
Damn. :/
How did you miss the Day 1 opening post?Corn had asked if the day had started, no one answered him, then the survey and I thought it was a joke. Then the first two replies after knew it was a joke...? I think?
Damn. :/
hmm, was just talking about your comments themselves, which could read as pre-game fluff. I mean, I made a similar joke on page 1. But if you're saying you skimmed the page, you missed the highlighted votes?
How did you miss the Day 1 opening post?
Unexpected answer, to make sure. You aren't Danny, right TWE?
Post 58I was looking for it today just now, and then when I didn't see it and people were attacking my post I realized the day must have started.
Unexpected answer, to make sure. You aren't Danny, right TWE?
Don't confirm this one way or the other. We don't really want to make it easier for scum to narrow down candidates.
I get that Flame seemed to want to out Danny, but what do you make of Corn's "it's not a disaster if he dies" comment?Vote: FlameAC
It will give us zero voting records and scum the chance to choose whom to lynch. Not game breaking, no role should break the game, but still pretty bad.
I'd love to hear what makes you think Worthy would claim like this. I never read through PW and looking back at D2 there I vaguely remember that Worthy was modkilled, but I didn't see anything that would make me believe he's the kind of player who would claim on D1 as an important role.
I get that Flame seemed to want to out Danny, but what do you make of Corn's "it's not a disaster if he dies" comment?
I get that Flame seemed to want to out Danny, but what do you make of Corn's "it's not a disaster if he dies" comment?
Danny outing himself does put the timing of his death in scum's hands though.I'm not saying anon vote isn't horrible for town. I'm saying chances are that late game it'd have a good chance of triggering anyway. But that the earlier in the game it happens the less damage it does.
Unless I'm mistaken, TWE is the player from PW that freaked out once like two or so people honed in on him as scum. I can't imagine that someone who broke down over some light questioning would have the nads to fake claim DP as a legitimate scum tactic.
Which leaves either
A) Real claim.
B) "Just a prank bro"
The former might be justifiable. Usually role claiming is pretty fuckin bad, but I have to wonder if there's some sort of protection given that Danny's death results in an anon lynch. In fact, that opens up a gambit. Anonymous lynching has the greatest effect mid-game. It means TWE might be left alive longer, since he probably won't be randomly targeted for NK. This does aid scum, but if Danny has some powerful ability additional time to use it might be key.
Honestly thought those were jokes but I mean I didn't really look at them, and just skimmed to see if anyone replied to my joke. In the mean time I saw someone's survey and where it had "Are you scum?" there was the Grand Budapest Hotel .gif so I assumed that the survey as a joke. Even the creator said it was supposed to be funny...
can you elaborate on that? i honestly dont see the logic.
how? how does this happen everytime i make a joke?!?
anyway, for now, i believe this.
for now.
but imma be watching.
im always watching...
This caught my attention. I've also read the game though not much from D2 and D3 where most of the scum reading happened.
I totally agree on W/W (deducing whether two people could be scum on the same team from their interactions), but what do you think about their "read" lists?
Danny outing himself does put the timing of his death in scum's hands though.
This is a super weird extrapolation, but would you back a policy lynch of Danny early in the game so we're not struck by an anonymous vote later in the game?
I feel you.
Whenever I try something like what I did it backfires...
can you elaborate on that? i honestly dont see the logic.
how? how does this happen everytime i make a joke?!?
anyway, for now, i believe this.
for now.
but imma be watching.
im always watching...
That's a good point about Xam. If someone were to joke claim, they would use either the main character or the comic relief character. TWE could still be scum but I don't buy that this was some purposeful scum gambit.I figured it would look like role phishing, but do what you want Crimson.
Him not answering would just leave us in a weird limbo state based on his posts which he didn't realize were at the start of the game. He has a decent defense either way, 'I was making a joke post before the game started', 'I was joking around by making one of those super early role claims like some people might think Xam did.'
He could be lying too, since outing an assumed PR this early would be horrible. Would be good for him since we'll all probably take his word at it for now and scum would probably rather hunt for PRs then take a shot at him.