Except they do that to nearly every boss by using brightbugs, resin and a full compliment of max damage rings.
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Except they do that to nearly every boss by using brightbugs, resin and a full compliment of max damage rings.
Even so it's a very marginal differeance an uchi at 50/50 counters for ~ 516 with an AR of 344. Drangleic sword at 50/50 counters ~ 502 with an AR of 418. Grand lance wipes the floor with the pair boasting ~ 730 counter damage with an AR of 456.
AR-wise yes, but DPS-wise.. I'd have to test stuff out, but Drangleic Sword uses more stamina and is somewhat slower to swing as well, so Uchi might be more economical in that regard. Not sure how Grand Lance fits there, I've always found the lance-moveset to be too cumbersome to use them for extended periods of time.
Still marginal though, so use whatever you fancy the most.
Cannon Goose
Member
Yeah I'm getting summoned from all over the place. I got summoned to the Luna tower three times in a row without a break in between while I was going through Harvest Valley.
Loyce Greatsword is a sweet piece of kit, but it's very much in the late-game/NG+ and onwards.
My favourites were Spears, but it seems their attackspeed was nerfed.. Now I'm rocking the Longsword and loving it.
Finished the main bosses of the 3rd DLC, do the
give anything worth the travel?
Because i'm just about burned out on DS2 as a whole and i don't think i can be bothered killing them for something possibly worthless, not sure i can be bothered looking at all the chests that were
either.
Cat twin rehash
Because i'm just about burned out on DS2 as a whole and i don't think i can be bothered killing them for something possibly worthless, not sure i can be bothered looking at all the chests that were
unfrozen
DarkHeartedKill
Member
I think you have to be human too. Unless you were already human then I dunno. I was only in it for a couple invasions till I got bored of ganking and murdered mad warrior a lot.
There is a neat ring for invasions and co-op in the Outskirts, but the bosses themselves only give
their souls. You can make a good greatsword and a neat but ultimately meh shield from them. The shield and sword that the Charred Loyce Knights drop are arguably better.
Edit:
The Loyce Greatsword does do only physical damage, and gains an S scaling in Dex, so it's probably better than the Charred version. Thought it had physical/magic split when I wrote the above. Even with that, it's still E/S scaling, so the Charred might outperform it still with it's C/B with a Fire scaling of C.. I need some sleep.
Hmmm and the 3rd DLC is the last support for DS2 right?
Orochinagis
Member
Yes, the last part of the intended DLC.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
YES, beat the
fully solo melee. Feels good.
pet duo
Congrats! I still have yet to best them.
Alright probably time to uninstall DS2 then, might give DS1 another run. Been feeling like replaying it again for awhile.
DarkHeartedKill
Member
I tried playing it on my Xbox recently. Omg the low framerate, button delay, it's all so awful! On the upside fast roll is super fast.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Something really weird happened with my friend tonight. We were in the Ivory King DLC, near the Garrison bonfire, right as the Hexer invades. I was a shade and he was host. I poisoned the hexer, but I died to the porcupines. My friend ran away to get the Lower Garrison bonfire, and somehow he could rest. He asked me on skype, "did you kill the invader?". I said he was poisoned, so he probably died, and asked him if he saw the "invader banished" message. He said he didn't. So whatever right. I warp to the garrison bonfire and drop again for him. While we explore and kill Maldron and get the lever and stuff, we get invaded again, by Hexer Nicolai again.
Guess he didn't die after all, lol. But I've never seen this happen before. Normally if an invader is present, you can't rest at a bonfire, and they don't just go away.
Orrrr... just occurred to me as I typed this. Could the NPC invader have "expired" his time limit?
Guess he didn't die after all, lol. But I've never seen this happen before. Normally if an invader is present, you can't rest at a bonfire, and they don't just go away.
Orrrr... just occurred to me as I typed this. Could the NPC invader have "expired" his time limit?
DkS2 has really spoiled us with the smooth framerate and the easily aimable rolls.. Hard to get back to the superior prequel.
If the host exited the area he returns to his world. It's distance based past a certain point he just leaves.
TranceKuja
Member
I'm at a bit of a loss. I now have all four crowns in my possession, talked to
, saw a cutscene and then got transported back.
Now I'm not sure what my reward is for getting all four crowns? Is there one?
Vendrick in King's Memory
Now I'm not sure what my reward is for getting all four crowns? Is there one?
Wear one and when you die you don't go hollow and are immune to curse.
The bone fist. The move set looks absolutely awesome and it does significant damage for a fist weapon. The hadōken does about 1000 damage.
If you've got a low VIT build set up and don't mind either skimping on some armor if you're using something heavy or have fast weapons already it's pretty decent.
As someone who just started the first DLC, could you please explain what this is about?Something in the second DLC? Can I screw myself over?
There is 11 ashen idols present within the second dlc which can only be destroyed via smelter wedges present within the dlc. If you explore and destroy them all without getting to the first boss worse case scenario is the 4 around healing during the fight then descending in magnitude how many are left.
You can still kill the boss with the 4 ashen idols that heal him present but its a bit of a pain.
Cannon Goose
Member
I just co-op'd my way through the third DLC with a random guy I met while doing PVP on the Iron Keep bridge. It was the first time I've done co-op that wasn't just bosses and it was super fun! I should try putting my sign down near more bonfires more often.
Yeah, i enjoy helping people within a level a lot more than just at a boss.
That sounds really nice lol
Alright thanks! I'll keep 4 smelter wedges on me I guess.
MoogleWizard
Member
Played through the third DLC and it's my least favorite by far. It felt quite a bit shorter than the first two and the bosses were not as good. The Ivory King was basically a re-skinned Sir Alonne. I only played through the frigid outskirts as a summon because of the 50 Loyce soul requirement to get there. That's just ridiculous, I got like one soul for killing six of them. Make it 10 or 15 and could tolerate it but 50 is too much. Grinding is the last thing I want in a Souls game, that alone puts the Ivory King DLC at the bottom for me.
You get 4 first off then another 6 later on last one after that boss.
There's no loyce soul requirement to get to the frigid outskirts you just slid down in the coffin right next to the expulsion chamber bonfire. Loyce souls you give to Alsanna for armor and her soul if you don't want to kill her.
Orochinagis
Member
The intended path is so short to finish, more than the iron king dlc
Sorry but the Outskirts have no such requirement, maybe explore more? And dont see how Ivory King is like Alonne at all. They both have swords and charge attacks?
Iron king and sunken had quite a bit of a way to go before you actually got really anywhere, unlike ivory which was quite short of a trip as you can't go anywhere really until after the first boss.
DarkHeartedKill
Member
Yeah, I love co-oping and showing people certain areas of the level before the boss fight. Like in Earthen Peak,
I showed people the secret bonfire, the petrified something, the lighting spear, and that trapped chest I forgot the contents of. You also wouldn't believe the number of people who didn't burn the windmill and I had to get them to come all the way back and burn it.
I kinda liked and hated that. I liked exploring a lot, but at the same time was really anxious about fighting the boss. Polar opposites combined heh.
Ivory king did it quite well where you could explore and find places other the whole ashen idol thing. Sunken kinda lost that with the whole boss placement thing and not really much to explore. Optional areas for both weren't too great.
MoogleWizard
Member
I guess I need to work on my Wiki reading skills. ;-) I didn't find the entrance to the area and looked it up and the way I understood it was that you need to have talked to Alsanna to gain access to the key to the outskirts and the path to Alsanna only opens up with 50 souls. I played through the area in co op and it was basically an empty field with a few items and enemies and a copy paste boss, from the same DLC at that, (recolored Alvana (?) x2) at the end. I found it boring, so I have no desire to play through it anyway.
The DLC just felt lazy to me compared to the first two. The area up to the final boss was too short and they tried to pad the playtime by making you go through it twice to open the chests. And the optional area is an empty field with a reskinned boss from the same DLC.
You just stand on the raised plinthy bit in front of her and she talks to you. So the 50 requirement is something you've confused with something else I think. The boss of the area is two of the same royal pets you fought for the first boss.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Playing with a wiki for your first playthrough.... smh
With the crazy SM I'm racking up farming loyce souls I figured I may as well take my hexer from 30/30 to 40/40. Since this puts me in the range of soul spear and just shy of great lightning spear I'm guessing I should look at some additional catalysts to supplement my Dark Sunset Staff +10? What's the best for pure INT at 40+? I already have a Lightning Priest's Chime +10 since I was running a faith build before using a soul vessel so I should stick with that for miracles unless I make it to 50 and switch to the Dragon Chime?
MoogleWizard
Member
If I find an area badly designed/lazy, I have no problem checking a Wiki, especially if it's only optional. *shrugs*
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
But it's only "badly designed" because you couldn't be arsed to explore it properly...
Just go 60/60 for the dark BNS and open up more options with a dark cathias charm for chime hexes. Pick up the black witch staff if you want all options open to you.
MoogleWizard
Member
I know, shame on me. I also only found the two of the three knights that assist you during the boss fight after I'd already beaten it, I guess I was in a hurry to finish. ;-)
The outskirts area itself is badly and lazily done though.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Yeah, the Outskirts do suck. Though honestly, I found them kinda fun in coop... >_> There's something unique and quite atmospheric about the whole place. But, the area, and especially the boss, were clearly designed with coop in mind, and that bothers me because while I enjoy the coop I always try to solo everything too.
I'm tempted to go 60/60 but it will push my SL well above 250 :/ I already have a dark cathias chime but wouldn't I be better with pure sorcery/miracle catalysts if I'm casting sorecery/miracles due to my staff and chime being dark infused? Haven't found myself using cathias chime yet as I don't find the soul cost and reduced casts of the relevant hexes to be worth the souls the neglible increase in damage
And it's all SM based you're only crippling yourself unless that's your thing not much point to stick around that. Cathia's only does hexes and its one of the best charms for it.
Orochinagis
Member
I guess thats the reason the term "going blind" was born.
DarkHeartedKill
Member
Not doing a blind playthrough?! Shame on you...SHAME! Nah, to each their own.
I tried to minimize help as much as possible with DaS 2, since with DaS 1 my friends ruined huge parts of it for me, and where to go. This time I had minimal direction, and I must say it was a lot more enjoyable. Finally finding out where to go after running around in circles for hours was a truly amazing feeling.
So being in the process to put down the game, in preparation for BloodBorne, i figured i would do a final fashion souls recap on what has essentially become my main, simply because she was the most fun to play as:
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Funny thing is, with a name like that, people summoning often thought i was an NPC, and i had to spaz around to convince them otherwise.
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Funny thing is, with a name like that, people summoning often thought i was an NPC, and i had to spaz around to convince them otherwise.