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So...
Last night I decided to push through Sen's Fortress at last and even though it cost me approximately ten times of reverse hollowing, I finally got up to Iron Golem. Summoned the Iron Tarkus NPC from the nearby tower and summoned another player to help me.
The summoned player died pretty much instantly. The NPC danced with the golem and eventually got killed too. And then there I was, out of Estus, with my trusty +3 Lightning Spear and a few firebombs. And I managed to kill it.
A few minutes later, Anor Londo. God damn. All the enemies hit so freaking hard. Out of humanity. Cannot summon help. The gargoyles on the bridge rape me like a dead dog. The giant bronze knights are doable one on one, but everything else is just horrible.
Any advice?
Last night I decided to push through Sen's Fortress at last and even though it cost me approximately ten times of reverse hollowing, I finally got up to Iron Golem. Summoned the Iron Tarkus NPC from the nearby tower and summoned another player to help me.
The summoned player died pretty much instantly. The NPC danced with the golem and eventually got killed too. And then there I was, out of Estus, with my trusty +3 Lightning Spear and a few firebombs. And I managed to kill it.
A few minutes later, Anor Londo. God damn. All the enemies hit so freaking hard. Out of humanity. Cannot summon help. The gargoyles on the bridge rape me like a dead dog. The giant bronze knights are doable one on one, but everything else is just horrible.
Any advice?
I read this description on a dark souls wiki and got excitedcorrosivefrost said:
Description: "Catalyst of the Witch of Izalith of long ago, when her daughters were still flame witches, before they were engulfed by the Chaos Flame. Before the birth of pyromancy, their wands were mediums for sorcery, but knowledge of this flame sorcery has long since vanished."
MomoPufflet
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140.85 said:
I think
if you have gotten to the Bed of Chaos she has already turned hollow (aka died) because she attacks you around that area. So it is too late at that point, I believe.
rayner said:
It's partially because there is very little incentive for running around in human form. I really wish they'd only allow half the health in Hollow form ala Demon's Souls, or something along those lines. And they should have done a better job in-game, advertising the fact that you should use your white soap stone to be summoned as a Hollow in another's game. Maybe up the incentive like turning human and not just getting souls and a humanity for it (defeating area boss.)
MomoPufflet
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Zzoram said:
Seriously?? Wow, I always assumed it was her. Well, time to go find her then.
Phat Michael said:
I kind of agree with this. I love Dark Souls and From Software to bits, but I thought the Crystal Caves sucked too. I didn't have any trouble with it either, it just felt sloppy to me. The butterfly enemies were not fun to fight and there was barely ANY room to engage those crystal golems. If you did fight those crystal dudes good luck auto-targeting them and NOT back peddling off your invisible platform.
Lost Izalith was horrible, horrible, horrible too. Such a mess. The lava pit area with the dinosaurs felt like shit. Who did the enemy placement in this game? It felt like they literally copied and paced these enemies ALL over the place and didn't bother to test the area to see if it would have been frustrating. Talk about giving that area a once-over during development time.
Then there is Blighttown, which has already been thoroughly taken apart down to its core so there is no need to further berate its design. It simply felt and ran like balls.
The
Abyss
black screen
Everything else I thought was cool. One of the best things about Demon's/Dark Souls is its level design. Demon's Souls may have not of been as open and 'free' as Dark Souls, but it was still so tightly designed. Everything felt more focused and polished in Demon's Souls. That's not to say Dark Souls didn't do this either.
Sen's Fortress was a testament to great dungeon design and it's still my favorite area in the game. The Undead Burg and its wrap-arounds and back doors to the Parish & Depths area were awesome too. Anor Lando was also designed really well, with cool back door gates and paths, etc. It's just some of the in-between areas (Crystal Caves, Blighttown, Demon Ruins, Izalith) felt sloppy and poorly designed. I will agree that the first half of the game (including the majority of Anor Lando) was better than the second half.
kodt said:
If you have 31 INT and Crystal Homing Soul Mass you can outdo the damage the boss will do to Solaire. Just equip the Dusk Crown and that sorcery boosting ring and blow that dragon away. I just did this on my first new game+. Magic is WAY too powerful in this game, again...
Baloonatic
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Fucking hell, invaded outside Capra demon fog gate by a phantom with a lightning iato who one-shots me? What's the point? I'm SL 11 and am already low on Humanity so wasting it when stuff like that happens and I'm unhollowed is just frustrating.
Yuterald said:
Yeah I have been using Pyro, but I am thinking about using some Magic now.
Also, I died to Moonlight Butterfly, those homing attacks took me out in a few hits, even with a magic defense ring. Then Witch Beatrice killed the boss after I died so I still got the kill
I was in shock, didn't realize you could die in that fight... hehe
Lost Izalith's dinosaur pit sucks because the best strategy involves having them kill each other, slowly and tediously. But other than that? I loved the Duke's Archives and the walkways in the crystal cave. I loved Anor Londo, especially the archer section. I loved the
. Overall, I don't see all the complaints directed to all of the areas after Sen's Fortress.
drained ruins
Augemitbutter
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Yuterald said:
yea, that sucks. i don't like playing sorcerers, which makes it suck even more ;(
Baloonatic said:
He's probably a similar level, just an experienced pro so he was able to rush the game and get uber gear early in the game.
Keep trying, there are more people waiting at Capra to be summoned than waiting there to invade.
You can build up a decent amount of humanity by just farming an area and not dying for a while.
Tain said:
Ya I thought Duke's Archives was great. Crystal Caves was decent, nothing special. Demon Ruins was fine too, only the Lost Izalith lava was at all bothersome.
I don't even mind Blighttown, I think the area, if it didn't have such a low framerate, would be perceived to be pretty good. The constantly respawning mosquitoes are annoying but they exist in part to offset the poison damage you take there. That's because just before going to Blighttown, you will have likely gotten the ring that heals you 30hp per enemy killed, and mosquitoes are respawning enemies that die in 1 hit that are only around the poison swamp that drains your health.
MomoPufflet
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Can you get to
at SL1 if you are a bad enough dude? (aka good at running). I'm having trouble remembering if there is anything that would block you.
Ash Lake with the master key
MomoPufflet
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I figured, thanks.
probably not a bad enough dude
DangerousDave
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kodt said:
I defeat that dragon in melee only (a little of pyro) and it was very easy... but long.
You have to run away from him, very far from him. If he simply moves, or fly, or wathever, keep the distance. Sooner or later, he will make a charge (well, a slow charge) so yo can move to the side, wait until he stop and hit a few times (aim the tale, first).
When he recover from charge, run like hell, no looking back, until you are again very far away. Repeat.
I think the
could have been implemented a 1000 times better. There should have been lava areas/paths in earlier parts of the games where you would have had to backtrack with the ring. It seems so underused. At least in Izalith there could have been more interesting uses of the ring, to solve switch puzzles, etc.
Fire Walker Ring
so.. i'm at the lovely boss who in order to get to I need to take invisible paths, and when I get there he can curse me.
..The biggest problem that I'm having is with the camera. I get him down to 25% health, but then the screen is all crystals and I can't see shit no matter what I do.
..The biggest problem that I'm having is with the camera. I get him down to 25% health, but then the screen is all crystals and I can't see shit no matter what I do.
Yuterald said:
Ya if there were some puzzles or old areas to unlock that would be cool.
As it stands, the only past area it helps with is getting the Chaos Ember from the Demon Ruins, but if you had a lot of HP and fire resistance items/flash sweat pyromancy, you could survive just long enough to pick it up before dying in the lava.
Mechanized
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Yuterald said:
That's what I was wondering about, in Demon's Souls making a pure melee character totally crippled yourself for certain sections of the game, especially bosses.
Shame, as that is my favorite style of character besides a Paladin.
Pyromancer sounds cool though. Can't wait to start the game tonight.
I hated Crystal Caves when I first got to it. I had a lot of stupid deaths on the invisible bridges and quite a few "oops, you're not standing where we want you to SLIDE OFF!" moments.
But, when running back to the boss room, it just suddenly occurred to me that I was full on non-stop sprinting it. It's a fairly linear area and the two primary bridges are perfectly straight; the other two are optional for loot and are a bit rougher so bring Prism Stones (which the game suggests to you).
It's a cute gimmick that should really only kill you the first time you get there. Or at least seriously slow you down. After that? You can basically ignore the fact that they're invisible as it really does nothing on future attempts. It serves to make your first visit a bit hectic but it's very easy to figure out.
Honestly, I hate the stupid sloped platforms a lot more than the invisible bridges. I've blocked myself to death a lot vs the golems since the recoil slid me into oblivion.
Really, the three
areas aren't that bad overall; Lost Izalith is the worst of them, personally, but I think I mostly hate it due to the terrible glow of the lava more than the design. Crystal Caves and Tomb are both really short and with a gimmick that isn't that big of a deal outside of the first visit; Izalith always fucking glows.
It's actually not so bad. There's only about 15 enemies total you'll run into and you really don't need to kill that many of them:
. Of those, you really only have to deal with the last set of enemies and they're not so bad to kill, even with starting equipment.
Just don't use the bonfires in
so you can Homeward Bone out after getting the stone.
I personally watch the feet more than the back since that's what determines "behind" them anyway. Besides that, make sure they're standing straight up (or at least, as straight as their model is). I usually don't have much of a problem with it.
Laggy PvP though ... well, fuck that.
But, when running back to the boss room, it just suddenly occurred to me that I was full on non-stop sprinting it. It's a fairly linear area and the two primary bridges are perfectly straight; the other two are optional for loot and are a bit rougher so bring Prism Stones (which the game suggests to you).
It's a cute gimmick that should really only kill you the first time you get there. Or at least seriously slow you down. After that? You can basically ignore the fact that they're invisible as it really does nothing on future attempts. It serves to make your first visit a bit hectic but it's very easy to figure out.
Honestly, I hate the stupid sloped platforms a lot more than the invisible bridges. I've blocked myself to death a lot vs the golems since the recoil slid me into oblivion.
Really, the three
Lord souls
MomoPufflet said:
It's actually not so bad. There's only about 15 enemies total you'll run into and you really don't need to kill that many of them:
3 Ogres in Blighttown entrance, 2 of those fire-breathing things in Blighttown, 3 leeches that are at the entrance to the to tree leading to the Great Hollow, ~5-6 Frogs in the Great Hollow
Just don't use the bonfires in
Ash Lake
Zzoram said:
I personally watch the feet more than the back since that's what determines "behind" them anyway. Besides that, make sure they're standing straight up (or at least, as straight as their model is). I usually don't have much of a problem with it.
Laggy PvP though ... well, fuck that.
Is anyone else finding NG+ disappointingly easy? I'm just walking through the game where my only deaths are from a boss. All bosses are going down in one or two shots. I even one shotted Smough and Orenstein.
I'm not even a great player, but compared to my NG+ experience in Demon's Souls which I am barely making it through, it's a bummer to speed through NG+ on Dark Souls.
I want my real Dark Souls starts here experience.
I'm not even a great player, but compared to my NG+ experience in Demon's Souls which I am barely making it through, it's a bummer to speed through NG+ on Dark Souls.
I want my real Dark Souls starts here experience.
Augemitbutter said:
Wait until you see how much damage Crystal Homing Soul Mass does with 50 INT. It's CRAZY how powerful sorcery is in these games. The thing I hate most about Dark Souls is the weapon scaling. There are all these ridiculously cool melee weapons that SHOULD scale with your STR and be as comparable to the kind of damage you can do as a mage, but it doesn't work like that. Hopefully the patch fixes this like they said they were going to do.
Phat Michael
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ok i just took out centipede demon and firesage. i have the chaos covenant +2 shortcut available. before i go into lost izalith...there is an area above me with a lot of staircases leading up with one of those tablets you step on with a switch...do i need to go up there first or should i go straight to lost izalith?
Ace Harding
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I was having trouble too until I realized I just needed to get closer - you need to be pretty close and dead center.Defuser said:
Defuser said:
Just a general tip here, because most people don't understand how backstabs work RIGHT in Dark Souls:
Your left analog stick MUST be in neutral position for backstabs to work. The way you do this is get behind an enemy, let go of the analog stick and then execute the backstab. As soon as you are still moving in a direction with left analoge stick the backstab won't come out.
Zzoram said:
frequency said:
Yeah I guess lock on is messing me up. I will try these suggestions.
I successfully got summoned a few times, hoping that people could show me across the invisible paths. it was clear that two of these times the host didn't know where to go and was hoping his phantoms could help him
and another time the guy ran way too fast ahead of me and I didn't see where he was going, but he eventually died. I think i have the hang of the invisible paths now though..- Status