It's because you're at the point in the game where you should be level 30+ at least. Playing at base level without leveling up is a self-imposed challenge, the developers did not provide weapons for it.
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Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition |OT| Durante Does In 23 Minutes What From Can't
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It's because you're at the point in the game where you should be level 30+ at least. Playing at base level without leveling up is a self-imposed challenge, the developers did not provide weapons for it.
Yea, I'm not complaining about the game or anything. Just saying this base level run isn't sustaining my interest enough to keep going with it as it is.
You still have many otions:
- Halberds
- Ushigatana
- Claymore
- Spears
- Clubs
- Flachion
- Straight Swords
among others. The Claymore and Gargoyle Halberd in particular are OP if you go elemental with base level character.
You'll need to use 2H for most of them but you won't be using a shield a lot when you play base level anyway.
I'm not good enough to play this game without a shield. I switch to 2-hand a fair bit for some of the bigger, slower enemies, but I still need the ability to switch to 1-handed with a shield if I'm not confident of being able to dodge an enemy's attacks. It'd be different if I had some more life/defense/endurance but I mostly cant afford to get hit.
What's this Ash Lake place? Hmm I thought all I had left was Demon Ruins and Tomb of the Giants! Once I beat Crystal Cave of course..
An optional area that's after another optional area. If you want a hint, it's the lowest point in Lordran. (The base of the world). You catch a glimpse of it in the Tomb of the Giants.
You mean Lost Izalith?
You can see both Demon Ruins and Ash Lake from Tomb of the Giants.
toddhunter
Member
If people haven't seen it, the 3D Map viewer for Dark Souls is worth a play.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyTB5vhKGSI
Really? I dont remember seeing Ash Lake in TotG. I'll have to keep an eye on it when I get down there soon.
Funny, I just discovered this today on my own. Cool stuff. Wish TotG was a bit more detailed instead of just being mostly blacked out, though. That was one of the more interesting places in terms of its interconnectivity in the world.
That's awesome.
Okay. I was about to quit the game for good, but I got to beat Seath. I had as much curse resistance (166 with Cursebite Ring) and as much mdef as I could (Ring Crystal Shield and Ring) and he kept killing me over and over. Fighting him was not the problem, traversing ALL the way back to the boss room was it. It was tedious. I could kill everything no problem, but damn it if it wasn't a long walk! :/
Had to check on a strategy to beat him, which frankly wasn't too different from what I was trying to do, just failed into doing so.
Had to check on a strategy to beat him, which frankly wasn't too different from what I was trying to do, just failed into doing so.
FFS, Lost Izalith.
Sigmund AND Solaire died in one life. Solaire was insane, and Sigmund went all kamikaze on headmouths. I jumped down to try and save him, but it was to late. Also, I got cornered and died. =(. Also, Kirk AND a pyromancy guy at the same time. Crowded area to be placed so far down towards hell!
Use the Great Scythe, two-handed, it's a lot of fun to use. As for a shield, just use it to make enemies repel, then switch to two-handed and whoop ass.
Frank Jaeger
Member
I think Ash lake is somewhat directly related to the intro cinematic where you see gwyn going all zeus like with the lightning bolts to the dragons! That's why I think
the last Dragon alive is there
The best part of ash lake is how it sets the mood for the crushing finale of siegbro's story arc! MANY FEELS!
Okay demon ruins: Bosses Galore!! Liking the place thus far though
Demon Ruins is only bosses.
Even most of the normal enemies are the Undead Burg/Lower Undead bosses. :<
AnonymousTipster
Neo Member
And there are those weird undead dragon legs walking around. Does anyone know what's up with those things?
Clearly not their bodies.
I know you didn't say that, that isn't what I was arguing against either.
I wasn't intending to respond for Mileena, by the way, just offering my own thoughts on the matter.
Most of the boss souls weapons are terrible, though. Hint: only Queelag's soul and Priscilla's soul are worth anything (and that's only for Dex builds). And, to a certain extent (for Intelligence-heavy builds), Manus's soul for a powerful spell, and the Moonlight Butterfly's soul, that spear isn't too horrible when fully upgraded, but even then the Moonlight Greatsword is a better weapon for int-builds. I guess Gwyndolin's soul is ok if you really, really want a bow for your faith build... then again a Divine +5/Occult+5 composite bow is probably better anyway, but you'd need an extra white slab.
Unlike in Demon's Souls, where most boss souls are very useful, most of the boss souls in Dark Souls can be safely consumed for their souls (seriously, they're that bad, that was a little disappointing).
But cheevo's.
I have no idea but they are humongous. And luckily, they don't respawn, I've killed a few! Now i'm in the proper ruins of Izalith!!
Changed my +15 Zwei for a +5 Black Knight Greatsword. I like it.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
*spits*
AnonymousTipster
Neo Member
*rimshot*
Had no idea they didn't respond (admittedly I've never bothered trying to kill them).
I wonder if the bottom half of the undead dragon in the Valley of the Drakes is down in Lost Izalith?
Time to cheese everything.
toddhunter
Member
That's ok. I finished Demon Souls and was about a quarter of the way through Dark before I realised you could run by holding down circle.
You can buff your +15 Zwei though.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
lol, for real? How'd you get past the dragon's fire in 1-2?
What do you mean?? Like, with pine resins?
Charcoal Resin, Pine Resin, Poison Resin, Magic Weapon, Great Magic Weapon, Crystal Magic Weapon, Darkmoon Blade, Sunlight Blade, and Hidden Weapon.
toddhunter
Member
Finally got past the first blast with luck/fire resistance after a lot of tries and then shot the dragon down over about an hour or whatever from the first tower :|
The more you know. I didn't know there were so many options.
I'm guessing I should be doing the DLC sometime soon, after all (I think) I only have Lost Izalith and Tomb of the Giants left.
I think that all but the resins are locked to you if you're not a mage.
toddhunter
Member
Haven't played a mage yet in Dark since I was one in Demon's.
Gonna give it a shot someday.
I get the feeling TotG will be kind of underwhelming after the DLC, I'd do the Tomb first
I get the feeling TotG will be kind of underwhelming after the DLC, I'd do the Tomb first
Okay, venturing into TotG in 3...2...1... already scared!
Prism stones are your best friend.
artorias the abysswalker
Member
let there be LIGHT
I wonder if you could get through ToTG well by spamming Silver Pendant every few steps.
grimshawish
Banned
So should I not touch this with a keyboard/mouse gaf? Was thinking of picking it up.
Just plug in a Wired 360 Controller and you're good to go.
I got the Skull Lantern from a Necro in Catacombs. Then I got another one in the Tomb, lol. But so far, traversing without a shield is proving dangerous at times.
Nobodyspatzy
Member
Just wanted to post this here... as I do like sharing things!
There is still a severe lack of DLC area art (lots of Artorias art though).
There is still a severe lack of DLC area art (lots of Artorias art though).
Laurentius
Member
Haha, that is amazing.
Does anybody else get really bad framerate drops when looking at fog gates? (PC version.) It's odd, the fog gate doesn't even have to be in view -- it can be completely obstructed by something else, but if I look in it's direction, my frame rate drops sharply.