RadioactiveLobster
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What we don't know is the amount playing Non Steam versions.
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Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition |OT| Durante Does In 23 Minutes What From Can't
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What we don't know is the amount playing Non Steam versions.
Who sells the non-Steam version? Just EU box copies?
Apparently the sales ballpark is peak players x8-10 for Steam purchases, along with retail a good estimate would be between 100-200k sold in the first day. Alan Wake peaked at 4000 concurrent Steam users and that was a success for Remedy, so I imagine they'll be pleased with this.
All boxed copies are non-Steam, but the UK copies can be activated on Steam with the CD key apparently.
deddonpachi
Member
but this was intended i thought?
Neither of the usual techniques for beating him are exploits.
He's always been able to hit you in the alcove if you mess up your positioning, the shape of the passage just makes it easy to know exactly where his attacks are coming from so you can dodge them and get your licks in.
The insta-kill way is clearly intended. He has a whole set of custom animations just for clinging to the broken masonry and falling into the pit.
The insta-kill way is clearly intended. He has a whole set of custom animations just for clinging to the broken masonry and falling into the pit.
legacyzero
Banned
NONONONONONONONONONOOOOOO. WHAT DO I DO?!
iNvid02
Member
turn back and go down the stairs to the right, i think, im not exactly a pro lol
Lumination
'enry 'ollins
This thread makes me so happy that so many people are experiencing Dark Souls for the first time. So addicting to read! Highlighting spoilers is so dangerous, too. It's like I'm playing a meta-Dark Souls.
hug the right, there's a set of stairs about halfway along the bridge, you won't get hit
SiegfriedFM
Member
If it's your first time there, rush him with your shield up and head for the alcove on the right. If you survive the first blast, you should be fine. Then walk down the stairs and kick down the ladder to the bonfire. After that, return up top, let him roast the hollows and then run past him when he comes down looking for you.
Go streaking
seriously! Naked run to the middle, then down the stairs on the right.
Humanity now adds more to drop rate than in the past, also Humanity itself drops more often
maniac-kun
Member
How does humanity work?
Yea finding humanity from rats seems a little easier too. Like a 10-20% drop rate.
I rang the second bell
I gave it a try on my second run after dying because it looked like a bonfire was past him, so I thought the game was teasing me that I could make it just so I could get a chance to save.
...
Didn't make it.
Federico_612
Banned
Can i use an average twinstick gamepad?
My sixaxis keeps disconecting with motionjoy!
why?
My sixaxis keeps disconecting with motionjoy!
why?
Moral Panic
Member
What swords should I be looking at? My game is pretty much all backstabs and ripostes. The bandit sword does good damage with backstabs but is shit at everything else. I thought the Drake sword would be a step up until I could find something better.
legacyzero
Banned
PHEW.
If it turns out like any relatively niche game on PC it'll sell at a steady pace for a while, then BOOM - Steam sale cash.
In order of backstab goodness
1) Rapier (hidden bonus)
2) Bandit's Knife
3) Estoc (hidden bonus)
The Bandit's Knife isn't really good outside of backstabs though, the Rapier is also the best for riposte damage, but the Estoc is best for regular combat. All of them are pretty close for backstab damage.
Rapier and Estoc can attack while your shield is up and have better range than the Bandit's Knife. Estoc has the best range/normal damage of the 3 options so for enemies you can't riposte/backstab, the Estoc is better.
The only reason I want this to sell at all is because of Durante so more people have a chance to experience his awesome mod and donate to him. Getting to play a good game on top of that was just the bonus.
Just use your PS3 controller then with MotioninJoy.
Sentenza
Member
10,000 concurrent users should mean *roughly* 100,000 Steamworks-enabled copies sold in the first day. Not groundbreaking but better than I expected, given the bad reputation of this port.
Man I wish they allowed modding. Some things I'd fix after playing for 3 hours:
- Remove only saving at bonfires
- quicksave
- remove respawning enemies after using bonfire
- add a fucking jump button
- remove having to find your souls after death
- cut all enemy damage in half, remove every single instakill instance
and before you ask, I'm not trolling or joking. I couldn't be more serious.
- Remove only saving at bonfires
- quicksave
- remove respawning enemies after using bonfire
- add a fucking jump button
- remove having to find your souls after death
- cut all enemy damage in half, remove every single instakill instance
and before you ask, I'm not trolling or joking. I couldn't be more serious.
EternalGamer
Banned
Actually run FORWARD and go down stairs to the right half way before you get to him.
So make the game for pussies? No thanks.
You can already save anywhere, the menu option to exit also saves. You only can't save in the middle of a boss fight.
The game doesn't just save at bonfires, it saves whenever you do anything. Use an item, kill an enemy, open a door... you get the idea.
Im gonna go ahead and say that Dark Souls isn't for you. Every single one of those changes would make the game worse.
That's absolutely fine. But what you want it's the thin soup version of Dark Souls. You'd be only trolling yourself if you finished the game like that.
What an absolutely awesome game.
Been stuck the past 2 hours trying to advance the part after you meet the blacksmith...
Been stuck the past 2 hours trying to advance the part after you meet the blacksmith...
I didn't know where to go, I was at that part where you fight the 2 gargoyles, you can also choose to go the the forest and the catacombs I think.
After dying in pretty much every place I decided to fight the 2 gargoyles. Almost used all my consumables items but after 10 or so tries I beat them.
Feels good man.
I'm playing without a guide or wiki as some of you should
After dying in pretty much every place I decided to fight the 2 gargoyles. Almost used all my consumables items but after 10 or so tries I beat them.
Feels good man.
I'm playing without a guide or wiki as some of you should
I thought about it, and basically I want Dark Souls with Gothic/Two Worlds/Risen gameplay instead.
I'm a sadist, not a masochist. These elements just add frustration and unnecessary risk/reward paradigms that suck cock like a cheap hooker.
I got up to the second level and tried to get past the dragon (attacking him with a bow pisses him off, that's a nice touch lol) and attack him headon. I didn't go to any of the nearer bonfires because I didn't want the enemies to respawn, they should stay dead.
It sent me to the starting bonfire, and My will to continue is evaporated. Maybe I'll play more later when I'm not pissed.
I'm a sadist, not a masochist. These elements just add frustration and unnecessary risk/reward paradigms that suck cock like a cheap hooker.
I got up to the second level and tried to get past the dragon (attacking him with a bow pisses him off, that's a nice touch lol) and attack him headon. I didn't go to any of the nearer bonfires because I didn't want the enemies to respawn, they should stay dead.
It sent me to the starting bonfire, and My will to continue is evaporated. Maybe I'll play more later when I'm not pissed.
Nah at least beat the game as intended first. Even though you said it's not these changes you want still read like a joke.
The whole point of this game is becoming more skilled and feeling a sense of accomplishment for overcoming a challenge. Making the game stupidly easy like most games nowadays will remove the highs of accomplishment you would feel from beating a more challenging game.
There are guys who have beaten Dark Souls without ever leveling up. Those guys must feel like gods.
SiegfriedFM
Member
Yeah, you don't want to play this game.
What an absolutely awesome game.
Been stuck the past 2 hours trying to advance the part after you meet the blacksmith...
I didn't know where to go, I was at that part where you fight the 2 gargoyles, you can also choose to go the the forest and the catacombs I think.
After dying in pretty much every place I decided to fight the 2 gargoyles. Almost used all my consumables items but after 10 or so tries I beat them.
Feels good man.
I'm playing without a guide or wiki as some of you should
Remember the bridge with
the red dragon? There's a locked door there you should have the key to now.
EternalGamer
Banned
You can also already jump. Hold down run for a few seconds then tap it again. You actually need it to get it a few areas.
Basically he wants a game that is easier and woth no consequences when you fuck up. That would indeed ruin Dark Souls.
Darksouls is a game that demands your attention amd builds off the tension of trying to get back to your souls when you fuck up and the stakes increase the more souls you have. It is no exageration to say removing that tension would ruin a lot about what makes the game special.
This is not a zone out game you play while getting hammered or stoned and just mash buttons. Every other game lets you do that. This is a game about concentration, precision,strategy, tension, frustration, and rewarding sense of accomplishment.
Uh, the game saves pretty much all the time
Would make the game trivial, so no. Why bother learning when you can just instantly retry after making a mistake?
What would this achieve? enemies = souls, souls = needed to do basically anything in the game
Hold B to sprint, press B again. You jumped. Neat, huh
Please don't punish me for dying!
Yes let's make the game trivial, what a great idea.
Go play something else where you can just mash buttons and don't have to think, sounds like it'd be better for you
Sorry to hear that you don't like great game design.
Wolf Akela
Member
Play other games. Souls is for a niche crowd who prefer difficult and gritty games.
PS. The game saves everytime you do anything like taking damage, moving or picking up objects. It's done so that people won't abuse it like save states (see stealing in Skyrim).
A challenge for me is simply beating a game in the first place. This just gets in the way.
I dont really care about other people feeling good about walking over hot coals.
EternalGamer
Banned
Well first off, he should leave that dragon the fuck alone. Dont come back to him for many hours until you are way stronger.
Also you'll find a ladder right before the dragon that you can kick down to get you right back to the dragon via shortcut from an earlier bondfire.
Ah, I can see how that would get you down. That part is pretty harsh for newcomers. Thankfully you don't have to kill the dragon.
Run towards it and you'll find some stairs leading down on your right. You'll be able to kick down a ladder to create a shortcut to the previous bonfire, and you can safely continue without fighting the dragon.
I mean I like everything about the game other than what I mentioned. There's no other game like it that does it like DS does. However the combat is just not what I want, at all. Which is why I made the earlier comparison of just slapping in Gothic style combat in it instead.
This isn't about me being a bad player, this is me not wanting to DEAL with that kind of risk/reward mechanism. I wanted to kill the dragon, though I'm not mad about him killing me. That is fine. it's the other shit.
No, I saw that, and I also saw the oil on the ground.
This isn't about me being a bad player, this is me not wanting to DEAL with that kind of risk/reward mechanism. I wanted to kill the dragon, though I'm not mad about him killing me. That is fine. it's the other shit.
Tess3ract...you could just use a trainer and give yourself more stats if things get too hard for you.
Try to stick with it, though. The bridge where you saw the dragon...go down the middle of the bridge, and you'll be able to kick a ladder down to the last bonfire you saved at. You'll be creating a shortcut so you won't have to redo all of Undeadburg again.
Try to stick with it, though. The bridge where you saw the dragon...go down the middle of the bridge, and you'll be able to kick a ladder down to the last bonfire you saved at. You'll be creating a shortcut so you won't have to redo all of Undeadburg again.