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How do you all feel about V for Vendetta?

It's very adept at seeming much smarter than it really is but is otherwise a very well made and entertaining flick.

The first F4 isn't incompetent but it lacks any ambition beyond being campy and inoffensive. It's a lot like Batman and Robin but not silly enough to be enjoyed ironically.

 

[ANBUcaptainACID]

Cant decide if i wanna go digital or physical for my movie collection. I know some blu rays come with digital copies, but not all.

 

[IconGrist]

It's very adept at seeming much smarter than it really is but is otherwise a very well made and entertaining flick.

Hmm. I never felt the movie was trying to come off particularly smart. V had a style to his speech but the plot was pretty straight forward. There definitely was a preachy aspect to it though.

 

[duckroll]

MARVELS is pretty much the Marvel version of Kingdom Come right? Both have Alex Ross art. I've never read it. How does it compare to Kingdom Come? Not at as good? I never really hear or read people talking about it.

Marvels is nothing at all like Kingdom Come. Snyder would do a terrible job of adapting it because what makes Marvels work is not the Ross visuals, but the humanity in the narration. It's about a reporter following the dawn of superheroes from pre-WW2 through the decades and providing a civilian view of the major milestones of the Marvel universe. It's really good but people don't talk about it just like how they don't talk about The Marvels Project. Because people have bad taste. The Marvels Project rocks too. Because Ed Brubaker rocks.

 

[BadAss2961]

Adewale talks Killer Croc

Akinnuoye-Agbaje’s research into Killer Croc pulled in material from throughout three decades of stories featuring the Batman foe and even looked at real-world crocodiles to study their movements.

“I looked at all of it,” he says. “I went back to the young Waylon Jones. The animated series. I had my own take, too. I researched cannibalism. I actually went out and watched real crocodiles, too. We incorporated some of the real life fight techniques that crocodiles do when they kill their prey. The death roll.”

Speaking of death rolls, Akinnuoye-Agbaje promises that the film’s storyline will definitely feature Killer Croc in the water.

“Oh, you’re going to get more than one water scene!” he laughs. “I’m a croc after all, man. That’s my territory!”

Some more in the link.

Great that he gets a full performance out of this instead of just CGI. If you've seen him in Oz, you know he's perfect for this role.

 

[Bleepey]

Adewale talks Killer Croc Some more in the link.

Great that he gets a full performance out of this instead of just CGI. If you've seen him in Oz, you know he's perfect for this role.

Every time I see his name, I stop reading and just see Adebisi. I know it's not his name, I just don't care.

 

[Ninjimbo]

How do you all feel about V for Vendetta?

I love it. Sometimes it can be preachy and overwrought but I wouldn't have it any other way. I've never read the comic so I got nothing to say about it as an adaptation. As a movie, it works on multiple levels for me. Hugo Weaving was perfect and he didn't even use his face.

 

[strafer]

Every time I see his name, I stop reading and just see Adebisi. I know it's not his name, I just don't care.

I see Mr Eko and his stick.

 

[Lord Virgin]

How do you all feel about V for Vendetta?

Love it. Great movie.

 

[Bleepey]

The irony of DC vs. Marvel is that I bet Snyder could make a damn fine adaptation of MARVELS.

I never thought about this but holy shit that would be awesome. I imagine it would look like a mixture of Mad Men/watchmen/Sky Captain and the World of tomorrow

 

[Busty]

New 4Chan rumors
http://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/82439514/dceu-spoilers#p82439514

*Sets the thread on fire and laughs maniacally*

Scott Snyder recently submitted a script for the Man of Steel sequel. The early script has Parasite and General Sam Lane as main antagonist and Manchester Black having a cameo.

Dat insider info.



...., seriously, this is all nonsense. We know that now..., right?!

 

[thehypocrite]

Dat insider info.



...., seriously, this is all nonsense. We know that now..., right?!

Well he did wrote this https://g.co/kgs/nbOZG I found it good, interesting and it does have a clear story/themes.

 

[Busty]

Well he did wrote this https://g.co/kgs/nbOZG I found it good, interesting and it does have a clear story/themes.

This 4chan (o whatever) guy is a fraud. It's as simple as that. His previous post indicated that Warners were going to make a big budget Sailor Moon film.

C'mon, it's all barely disguised fanwank.

 

[thehypocrite]

This 4chan (o whatever) guy is a fraud. It's as simple as that. His previous post indicated that Warners were going to make a big budget Sailor Moon film.

C'mon, it's all barely disguised fanwank.

Oh Yeah, I agree that it's bullshit all right.

 

[Penguin]

Dat insider info.



...., seriously, this is all nonsense. We know that now..., right?!

Oh I'm taking none of this seriously

I just live for the reactions now.

 

[BadAss2961]

Oh I'm taking none of this seriously

I just live for the reactions now.

Yeah, I'll hear out anything at this point with there being no news. Warner should drop developments more often. Give the media something to print instead of just having them sit there and cook up clickbait drama.

 

[Raptor]

i killed superman in my dreams last night

Whats wrong with you?

 

[Tabby]

i killed superman in my dreams last night

You make me sick.

 

[Lord Virgin]

Ha! Hold those L's, Superman fans.

Spoiler

strafer is one of the biggest Superman fans here, right? Look at what you have done, Zack!

 

[IconGrist]

Ha! Hold those L's, Superman fans.

Spoiler

strafer is one of the biggest Superman fans here, right? Look at what you have done, Zack!

Far worse has been done to Supes than anything Snyder did, lol.

 

[a916]

No idea how to grab IG pictures but Jason Mamoa with his Aquaman tats holding up a sign protesting oil pipelines.

 

[Lord Virgin]

Far worse has been done to Supes than anything Snyder did, lol.

No, GAF told me Snyder is the single, most horrible thing to happen to Superman and movies in general! He is a monster!

 

[BadAss2961]

Speaking of Superman, and in the spirit of digging up old interviews, I saw this one brought up. George Miller on Superman. Actually, it's just from last October.

“I think it’s been said many times before: he’s potentially a very boring character because he has no faults," Miller told IGN. "So you really have to find his demons really to get an internal conflict going. You’ve really got to do that. Whether that’s by an external agency or something deep inside himself. You need that conflicted character.

“That’s what made the Greek gods so great. I mean they were jealous, vengeful, hubristic. They had all these things going for them. I think that’s why Batman’s such an interesting character because he’s human, so he’s just like us. He’s relatable, rather than someone who’s just perfect.”

Sounds like he wasn't far off from what Zack's trying to do. Sounds Darker if anything. I know a lot of Superman fans are tired of hearing about him being flawless.

IGN

No idea how to grab IG pictures but Jason Mamoa with his Aquaman tats holding up a sign protesting oil pipelines.

Good to know they're working. lol

 

[Penguin]

No idea how to grab IG pictures but Jason Mamoa with his Aquaman tats holding up a sign protesting oil pipelines.

Wait until someone posts on Twitter

 

[broncobuster]

That neck tattoo new?

 

[Kenzodielocke]

That neck tattoo new?

Nah.

 

[SJRB]

#REZPECT

 

[A.D. Skinner]

I was saw someone post a great little image gallery from Imgur that done a great job of explaining why Martha totally worked. I fully agree with it and thought so before hand but it did a much better job of explaining it all than I can.

Anyone have a link?

 

[IconGrist]

No, GAF told me Snyder is the single, most horrible thing to happen to Superman and movies in general! He is a monster!

I believe that title actually belongs to Frank Miller.

 

[SJRB]

I believe that title actually belongs to Frank Miller.

How there's still people saying BvS should've been more like Dark Knight Returns is beyond me.

DKR Superman is horrendous. The finale is amazing though.

 

[a916]

Nah.

He's so much more ripped and bigger right now than he was when that was taken.

 

[unholyrevenger72]

I was saw someone post a great little image gallery from Imgur that done a great job of explaining why Martha totally worked. I fully agree with it and thought so before hand but it did a much better job of explaining it all than I can.

Anyone have a link?

Was it the Lion King one?

 

[What did he mean by this?]

Martha worked because Bruce didnt know his identity. Supes couldnt say "save my mom", he said "save MmMartha (...Kent)"

How this of all things became a meme idk

 

[Effect]

Martha worked because Bruce didnt know his identity. Supes couldnt say "save my mom", he said "save MmMartha (...Kent)"

How this of all things became a meme idk

I honestly believe a number of people really did think it was as simple as the two having mothers with the same name and that was it. That they completely missed everything else around it. Either because they weren't paying attention or simply didn't understand. Due to that they decided to turn it into a joke only to try and save face after it was explained to them by saying they did understand that. No I don't think that was the case at all. I think the context of that situation that was building from the opening of the film completely flew over some peoples heads. It's not a uncommon thing for people to make light or joke about things they didn't understand. You see it all the time.

There was rumor talk (like there always is) before the film came out that WB thought the film or parts of it was to smart for some people and were worried. Many thought that was dumb and rightfully so. That's insulting. However the Martha moment and how some people reacted to it does make it seem like, if that comment was even true, that concern was valid. That's not to say this is a special case. It's just got a big spotlight when it came to this film.

 

[antovolk]

My two cents on Martha - Supes says "save Martha" to Bruce *knowing* it'd cut right to the heart for him. His previous attempts to reason with him at the start of the fight failed.

I hope we get this in the UC - but basically in that whole new subplot about Clark going to Gotham and investigating Batman & finding out he's Bruce they can highlight Clark discovering at *that* point their mothers have the same name. If played right, can shine a new light onto that whole scene.

There are a lot of explanations/clarifications for Batman reacting to it the way he did, and that's set up really well within the film. The potential problem comes from Superman's side.

 

[DecoReturns]

I thought Bruce knew Clark was superman in the movie. Guess I was wrong.

Although I kinda hate how Lex already knows their secret identity for everybody basically.

 

[broncobuster]

In fairness the execution is sloppy. I'll admit, there are layers to it I didn't get when I watched. But even at face value, believing it's what became the meme? No judgements. Got nothing on theories on TDKRises. Ra's was a g-g-g-g-ghost!

 

[SJRB]

All Snyder had to do was include a two-minute sequence where Superman x-rays Batman [during the sequence where they first meet, for example], understanding it's Bruce Wayne and then a scene where Clark Kent does background research on Bruce Wayne and reads an old article about Martha and Thomas Wayne. Subtle camera zoom in on the article and the name Martha.

Boom, there you go. Completely fixed the awkward finale of the fight because now there's context.

 

[Dead]

All Snyder had to do was include a two-minute sequence where Superman x-rays Batman [during the sequence where they first meet, for example], understanding it's Bruce Wayne and then a scene where Clark Kent does background research on Bruce Wayne and reads an old article about Martha and Thomas Wayne. Subtle camera zoom in on the article and the name Martha.

Boom, there you go. Completely fixed the awkward finale of the fight because now there's context.

robs the scene of meaning, making Superman exploit Batman's psychosis for a selfish means, rather than Superman resigning himself to die while at the same time pleading to the man about to kill him to save someone in spite of his current actions.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

All Snyder had to do was include a two-minute sequence where Superman x-rays Batman [during the sequence where they first meet, for example], understanding it's Bruce Wayne and then a scene where Clark Kent does background research on Bruce Wayne and reads an old article about Martha and Thomas Wayne. Subtle camera zoom in on the article and the name Martha.

Boom, there you go. Completely fixed the awkward finale of the fight because now there's context.

Clark had an idea that Bruce was someone else from the dinner party.

 

[IconGrist]

robs the scene of meaning, making Superman exploit Batman's psychosis for a selfish means, rather than Superman resigning himself to die while at the same time pleading to the man about to kill him to save someone in spite of his current actions.

This. You turn Superman's actions to selfish instead of selfless by telling the audience he said Martha on purpose.

 

[Raptor]

robs the scene of meaning, making Superman exploit Batman's psychosis for a selfish means, rather than Superman resigning himself to die while at the same time pleading to the man about to kill him to save someone in spite of his current actions.

Agreed.

My boy Kal is awesome, baby!!

 

[a916]

robs the scene of meaning, making Superman exploit Batman's psychosis for a selfish means, rather than Superman resigning himself to die while at the same time pleading to the man about to kill him to save someone in spite of his current actions.

This.

He doesn't say stop no don't kill me. Nope, his first thought is his mother with no regard for his own safety/life.

 

[Arnie7]

Loved the shot at the end when Bruce pays Lex a visit. Terrifying.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Yeah, probably my favorite shot of Batfleck in this movie. But the first shot with him on the ceiling was also pretty menacing.

 

[BadAss2961]

Loved the shot at the end when Bruce pays Lex a visit. Terrifying.

Hmm, where'd they sample that from?

 

[antovolk]

All Snyder had to do was include a two-minute sequence where Superman x-rays Batman [during the sequence where they first meet, for example], understanding it's Bruce Wayne and then a scene where Clark Kent does background research on Bruce Wayne and reads an old article about Martha and Thomas Wayne. Subtle camera zoom in on the article and the name Martha.

Boom, there you go. Completely fixed the awkward finale of the fight because now there's context.

That's precisely what I think we're getting in the extended cut with the whole Clark investigating Batman stuff. Which then leads into the party where they first meet face to face - at that point Clark knows he's Batman.

Hmm, where'd they sample that from?

HD Chinese bootleg recording.

 

[broncobuster]

So that's why high quality gifs are out there,

 

[antovolk]

On the selfish/selfless point - it kills two birds with one stone right because Martha Kent is still being kidnapped and he's saying that to save his mother......the reason why he says save Martha instead of 'save my mother' is because the former will get to Batman.

 

[a916]

So that's why high quality gifs are out there,

Where is that in the movie?

Is that

Spoiler

post Superman death?