unholyrevenger72
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The Gotham finale was mediocre compared to the episodes that lead up it.
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The Gotham finale was mediocre compared to the episodes that lead up it.
unholyrevenger72
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it looks like character development undo because he doesn't kill Zoom thus establishing he still has morals. Then he just decides to save his mom. There's nothing in between. If they had Barry just strait up put his fist through Zoom's Face, or stolen Zoom's speed and put him on display in a Museum, they could have established, Barry is Broken and justify his decision to save his mom. Or they could have lead up to his decision to save his mom as slow burn through the beginning of next season.
Stallion Dan
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The Jay reveal hit him hard also and was after dealing with Zoom, the tea had overfilled the cup with that.
Seems just like they think they won't be able to do him without the Green Lantern elements.
Undead Fantasy
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The whole embargo is stupid as hell.
His Green Lantern isn't even like the others. It'd be so easy to distinguish him, and the fans would forgive not explicitly calling him GL. It's so silly. Hope DC reconsider.
Obviously the Trinity are off limits, but I hope they get to use the rest of the members. I'm not sure about Spectre and Fate but I can't see any issues with the rest.
Can't use Hawkman and Hawkgirl, Jay won't be introduced here, Power Girl won't show up, Black Canary neither. They'll have to mix and match generations anyway.
Interesting to see that Guggenheim worked on a Justice Society book where he introduced some female superheroes. He might have to read his own comics to get inspiration for female characters.
Interesting to see that Guggenheim worked on a Justice Society book where he introduced some female superheroes. He might have to read his own comics to get inspiration for female characters.
They can use the Hawks and Black Canary, they just probably won't. JWS has said Legends is a possibility.
Power Girl could be on the pod. I don't see any reason why she's off limits.
Stargirl is Johns' baby (sister, technically), the only reason she wouldn't be used is if Johns wants to write her himself and can't make the time.
MHWilliams
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Looking over Johns' work, my guesses would be:
Hourman
Stargirl
Garrick
Sandman
Liberty Belle
Dr. Midnight
All would work on a TV budget with little issue. Judomaster and Citizen Steel are my off-bets. Power Girl is a potential choice now that they have Supergirl.
Hourman
Stargirl
Garrick
Sandman
Liberty Belle
Dr. Midnight
All would work on a TV budget with little issue. Judomaster and Citizen Steel are my off-bets. Power Girl is a potential choice now that they have Supergirl.
Johns is not involved with Legends of Tomorrow, he is just the gatekeeper on who they can use.
They can technically use them, but they just wrote out the Hawks and Black Canary. JWS seems more important for The Flash and Power Girl would be more off limits as she seems like something that Supergirl needs.
MHWilliams
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He's not really involved with any of the shows in a super-deep fashion, but all of them lean towards characters he likes.
Johns not writing for the show is less to do with him not wanting to being involved, and more to do with him not having enough time for anything but the movies. You better believe the JSA on Legends will be heavily inspired by Johns' run and tastes.
Yes, they can use them. No reason to talk about them as if they're off limits, they aren't. Also Legends already has a Canary on it.
I don't see why Power Girl would be limited to Supergirl, when Legends is the crossover show that intersects with all the second characters.
He wrote on Arrow and he helped developed The Flash, but I believe he wasn't on Supergirl and Legends of Tomorrow at all outside of his general DC role.
Johns is the taste setter at DC. Him not contributing to Supergirl and Legends is to do with a lack of time, not will. The producers do still chat him with him when they can get his ear. But his work on the movies means he's got no time for TV or even the comics outside of Rebirth (which was great).
His run on JSA will directly influence Legends, that's for sure. It's very well regarded.
The Elite
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Gotta push those romantic developments.
PHOENIXZERO
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Ugh... The CW Guggs loves his romance drama.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Romance is fine if you know where you want to go with it. I was okay with Ray & Kendra. And even Jax being jealous was fine. It all made sense. They're on the ship together, romances will happen. But they need to start laying some seeds and not just push characters together all of a sudden. Sara had more chemistry and playful sexual banter with Mick. Her and Snart was just out of left field to me. And Kendra being with Carter after we spent large chunks of previous episodes establishing that she wants to choose who she loves and not simply be pushed to someone because destiny says so was lazy. They started telling a story and got sick of it near the end. If they wanted her to end up with Carter anyway, they could have at least shown more about why they work so much better than her and Ray. They tried, but it was near the end when the writers seemed more interested in just moving on.
Snart and Sara was super obvious, not sure how you missed it. Also he was a lot more into her than she was into him, he got the kiss because he was going to die not because she loved him. Lenny just had a crush on the one girl who actually understood what he was about.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I must have fallen asleep because I missed allll of that lol. My read on Snart was that he was sorta asexual and more interested in heists than relationships.
The only characters Snart really showed any interest in were Sara and Mick. He was even openly talking about his feelings with her. That's not the usual man with a plan.
OTP as of the finale is clearly
Mick and Ray
e: oh shit we community now, the end is nigh
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
You gotta give them credit for how they built up the Ray/Mick relationship.
It felt natural and they can play off each other really well.
It felt natural and they can play off each other really well.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
That was my favorite relationships in the show. It really built over the course of the season.
Season 1 has been semi-decent guys, it's all down hill from here.
I have no idea why he loves his romance bs so much.
Because everyone at DC knows romance is a big part of the comics.
I mean I'm not saying it's bad. It's not like it doesn't exist in comics.
But none of the relationships he writes is, for the lack of a better word, "organic". Barry and Iris's relationship is done well but everything on Arrow and Legends just feels really forced. It feels like they pair people up just for the sake of it.
Don't quite agree. Snart and Sara, and Roy and Thea for instance. Even smaller things like sara and the nurse. They failed to sell Kendra and Carter, but that might have been just a lack of chemistry on those actors. Just like how Kara can't even date her own husband because he wasn't good enough acting.
Dominic Purcell had an accident on the set of Prison Break. Iron bar fell on him, thank god he is 'okay'. Also seems like he is dating AnnaLynne McCord again.
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Once again I'll reiterate that Guggenheim is just one producer of many, just because he makes the statement doesn't mean he writes every damn thing. He's not even full time on Legends.
Really? That's the relationship you want to use as an example?
That fuckin' grin!
Really? That's the relationship you want to use as an example?
That fuckin' grin!
Oh yeah, I know her...played a total bitch on 90210.
Understandable, it is a terrible relationship because it gets five minutes every year, but if someone doesn't want them, it is ideal. No buildup, no follow through and an immediate reset every time. They will have been together ten minutes by the time of their wedding. Jane the virgin will have to give up her title by that time.
Cornballer
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