Ragingnight
Member
it was fixed. I could land 2 framers almost 90% of the time when I played that game. It couldn't be that bad.
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Dead or Alive 5 |OT| Put a little bounce in your sidestep!
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it was fixed. I could land 2 framers almost 90% of the time when I played that game. It couldn't be that bad.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Might have to try it again but my friends big on SF dont even play it anymore. I honestly felt like my 60$ was not worth it for that game.
sorry for going offtopic lol.
Master Thespian
Member
It's not "one guy" and the best I've heard from anyone credible is you can get an okay match here and there. That's not good enough for me. I held off playing anything online until SCV because nothing else felt good enough to bother with. After VF5FS and TTT2's online, why would I waste my time on a laggy version of a game that relies heavily on stuns and counters? The ability to complete combos is moot since DOA's generous input buffer allows you to essentially just hammer out the inputs. Not being able to see and react to stuff is much more critical.
I'll keep my eye out over the next couple of days (and if need be coming months) to see if this improves. But if this isn't fixed by the end of the week I'd imagine most people will pass or drop it and not come back.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
So far I'm loving the game. Very fast, intense, responsive and beautiful. Definitely think it's an improvement over DOA4 so far in most areas. Haven't tried online yet. Hopefully, it isn't as bad as Tekken 6 online was. SFXT online wasn't too hot either, but I still think it was better than Tekken 6's online. How are reviews going to chastise this game for being the same thing when practically every fighting sequel has been very similar to it's predecessor this generation? I bet they are going to give those, "mainstream" sequels coming out high praises even though they will play virtually identical.
Steve o 3000
Banned
I just picked up my copy, but won't be able to play it for a few hours. All the complaining about the netcode has me a bit worried. If it is as bad as people are making it out to be, I will have to pickup my first Tekken game in 15 years.
MrCookiepants
Member
Critics didn't seem to mind when SFIV came out with the same gameplay and movesets from SNES era. 9's and 10's across the board.
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
Focus Attacks
Ultras
Different combo system/mechanics
Easy Inputs
4 New Characters with unique playstyles
????
Wouldn't that be a bit easy?
Back and hold counters mid-punches, forward and hold counters mid punches, back-up and hold counters high strikes, back-down counters low strikes.
Huh. You mean to say back and forward and hold counters the same thing, right?
DR2K
Banned
Power Blow
Different combo system/mechanics
Easy inputs
5 new and unique playstyles
Boob sweat???
Counterholds work like this
Up back + h for high kicks/punches
back + H for mid punches
forward + H for mid kicks
down back + H for low kicks and punches
Some characters have advanced holds where they press 2 directions + hold, do command training with your character to find out.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
SF4 did add some enhancements and few features, but at it's core, it did play very similar to the old games. The amazing Virtua Fighter 5 came out on PS3 in 2007. We get the even more amazing VF5: FS in 2012 and isn't the basic gameplay mechanics very similar to the 5 year old game. If it isn't broke, why fix it?
Castef
Banned
First review on IGN Italy (marked as "exclusive"):
http://it.ign.com/recensione/522/Dead-or-Alive-5-per-un-bel-rilancio-della-serie
http://it.ign.com/recensione/522/Dead-or-Alive-5-per-un-bel-rilancio-della-serie
8/10 seem like a fair score. If it averages this I will be happy.
I wonder when IGN US is going to post their review.
Meristation 81/100 (Spanish)
http://www.meristation.com/es/xbox-360/dead-or-alive-5/analisis-juego/1532283
Videogameszone (German)
http://www.videogameszone.de/Dead-or-Alive-5-Xbox360-155080/Tests/Dead-or-Alive-5-im-Test-1026274/
http://www.meristation.com/es/xbox-360/dead-or-alive-5/analisis-juego/1532283
Videogameszone (German)
http://www.videogameszone.de/Dead-or-Alive-5-Xbox360-155080/Tests/Dead-or-Alive-5-im-Test-1026274/
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Interestingly enough, they added button blocking in addition to the traditional hold back blocking. That should make everyone happy.
Castef
Banned
I'm expecting a streak of 8ish reviews.
The impact the game is having with the reviewers i know is less solid than the one they had with DOA4. Well, of course, in that case we also had to consider the generation leap and so on.
Yet, DOA5 does not seem a very evident step up.
http://www.oxm.co.uk/45592/reviews/dead-or-alive-5-review/
7/10 from OXM UK.
EDIT: So I've just read through the review, and the score seems somewhat unfair. They mark it down that much because they don't like the story mode? :/
7/10 from OXM UK.
EDIT: So I've just read through the review, and the score seems somewhat unfair. They mark it down that much because they don't like the story mode? :/
My weak spanish is enough to let me like (alot) how some of the conclusions sound.
Also: no comparisons yet, I guess... Seems odd to read about so many visual flaws on 360 version.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Personally, I think the story mode is very good. On par with MK9's story mode, if not better.
[ITA]Wolfgang
Member
They put emphasis on lack of innovation.
Well, I'm normally the guy that has good games all around on netcode / network features. I can see a few bad, I can see mostly good... Here in DOA, there are a few issues I've encountered.
(All Xbox 360 stuff)
-- I had one match that felt very nice. It was a true fight against me and the other guy.
-- The other 2 or so... not so great. Since there's no way for me to tell their connection in ranked, who knows what was the deciding factor?
You can tell the game is slowing down the gameplay, to try to fit in the actions. Except, unlike KoFs, which did this to preserve perfect timing, this still occassionally felt like it dropped inputs.
-- While in training, you can set what type of connections you want to find you in fight request. Odd, since you can't see these connections in ranked.
-- Why can you set the amount of rounds in ranked matches? A bit odd, but not entirely bad.
-- Anyway, when open for fight request, you have to press the back button to accept them. A red icon flashes at the lower right of the screen. I don't think many people understand this yet, but once they do, I think you'll find much more matches online, and of better / higher quality.
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Conclusion: The netcode definitely isn't a rollback type. It probably won't prefer very well over bad connections, but it easily has the potential to perform very well at optimal. Will keep my eye on how well this all develops. Had less issues with TTT2 and VF5FS, thus far.
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Other stuff:
As a pure offline game, this is probably one of the best running fighters on this gen's hardware. Everything loads AMAZINGLY fast, return and next match stuff runs FANTASTICALLY, makes Tekken series feel like it's cripple in that department. (Even VF5 cold learn a thing or 2 from this.)
VF characters OBVIOUSLY sound like... VF sound samples. Like they're recorded in a totally different sound quality than the others. It's kinda charming! It's kinda weird.
US VA work isn't really that bad. I think the worse thing about them is they lack variety at times. Lei Fang "EiiiiYAAAAAAA" (Uncle from Jackie chan adventures?) Is horrible as a hit effect, as she will chain the same sound together OVER and OVER when getting smashed aganist walls... it sounds a bit campy and mis-managed, due to this.
Otherwise though... I like the US VA. Tina sounds better in game than in trailers to me, I can't say it doesn't fit her... I can even deal with Ayane, though I love her Japanese VA, it's one of the most memorable to me...
Notes for controls: You can select if you want to use double tap UP for side step... or Up+PKH. A great, considerate idea.
Button config is "the good kind". You can erase a button from use by double tapping it.
The CE: I really like it. The artbook is worthwhile (it's 3D art for most of it, with 2D art that shows costume designs and such, and has a writeup of a few lines on each character, and all the stages).
The Soundtrack is a real one, with a worthy amount of tracks (20 or so), with good lengths, and in a real jewelcase. After stuff like the P4A sample disk, this feels like it's worlds better.
The paper that offers you the chance to fully expose Kasumi is pretty freaky. I'd guess it's free access to a page of the prima strat guid for her...
The DLC from Preorders and CE is REAL DLC. 15 megs, and 61 megs each, respectively. So doesn't appear to be on disk... does this mean people without this DLC can't see those costumes? Hmm.
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While I felt swamped with the amount of stuff to learn in Tekken, here, I feel like I really want to get to know my characters, because their movelist / new moves are so finely nuanced. The new moves have been added in pretty smartly... I haven't seen one that feels needlessly difficult, or like they just threw an arbitraty motion onto it. I'd love to see a decent critical burst primer, or character-tips in the training, but otherwise, the command training is great (Love it in DOA and VF), and I love having frame data and relevant info RIGHT there for once.
In the end, I'm impressed much by the game itself, but will have to have more time with the online to truly judge it. Will have to try some player matches later today, or something...
(All Xbox 360 stuff)
-- I had one match that felt very nice. It was a true fight against me and the other guy.
-- The other 2 or so... not so great. Since there's no way for me to tell their connection in ranked, who knows what was the deciding factor?
You can tell the game is slowing down the gameplay, to try to fit in the actions. Except, unlike KoFs, which did this to preserve perfect timing, this still occassionally felt like it dropped inputs.
-- While in training, you can set what type of connections you want to find you in fight request. Odd, since you can't see these connections in ranked.
-- Why can you set the amount of rounds in ranked matches? A bit odd, but not entirely bad.
-- Anyway, when open for fight request, you have to press the back button to accept them. A red icon flashes at the lower right of the screen. I don't think many people understand this yet, but once they do, I think you'll find much more matches online, and of better / higher quality.
---
Conclusion: The netcode definitely isn't a rollback type. It probably won't prefer very well over bad connections, but it easily has the potential to perform very well at optimal. Will keep my eye on how well this all develops. Had less issues with TTT2 and VF5FS, thus far.
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Other stuff:
As a pure offline game, this is probably one of the best running fighters on this gen's hardware. Everything loads AMAZINGLY fast, return and next match stuff runs FANTASTICALLY, makes Tekken series feel like it's cripple in that department. (Even VF5 cold learn a thing or 2 from this.)
VF characters OBVIOUSLY sound like... VF sound samples. Like they're recorded in a totally different sound quality than the others. It's kinda charming! It's kinda weird.
US VA work isn't really that bad. I think the worse thing about them is they lack variety at times. Lei Fang "EiiiiYAAAAAAA" (Uncle from Jackie chan adventures?) Is horrible as a hit effect, as she will chain the same sound together OVER and OVER when getting smashed aganist walls... it sounds a bit campy and mis-managed, due to this.
Otherwise though... I like the US VA. Tina sounds better in game than in trailers to me, I can't say it doesn't fit her... I can even deal with Ayane, though I love her Japanese VA, it's one of the most memorable to me...
Notes for controls: You can select if you want to use double tap UP for side step... or Up+PKH. A great, considerate idea.
Button config is "the good kind". You can erase a button from use by double tapping it.
The CE: I really like it. The artbook is worthwhile (it's 3D art for most of it, with 2D art that shows costume designs and such, and has a writeup of a few lines on each character, and all the stages).
The Soundtrack is a real one, with a worthy amount of tracks (20 or so), with good lengths, and in a real jewelcase. After stuff like the P4A sample disk, this feels like it's worlds better.
The paper that offers you the chance to fully expose Kasumi is pretty freaky. I'd guess it's free access to a page of the prima strat guid for her...
The DLC from Preorders and CE is REAL DLC. 15 megs, and 61 megs each, respectively. So doesn't appear to be on disk... does this mean people without this DLC can't see those costumes? Hmm.
---
While I felt swamped with the amount of stuff to learn in Tekken, here, I feel like I really want to get to know my characters, because their movelist / new moves are so finely nuanced. The new moves have been added in pretty smartly... I haven't seen one that feels needlessly difficult, or like they just threw an arbitraty motion onto it. I'd love to see a decent critical burst primer, or character-tips in the training, but otherwise, the command training is great (Love it in DOA and VF), and I love having frame data and relevant info RIGHT there for once.
In the end, I'm impressed much by the game itself, but will have to have more time with the online to truly judge it. Will have to try some player matches later today, or something...
Gah... Three more days!
The perfect Dark
Banned
woah man I don't know what to do....this game or Resi 6?
I need a game with good SP and online play. I'm worried about the netcode (PS3)...DOA is the only fighting game I like. Mortal Kombat was okay, I hate Tekken (slooooooooooow) and VF (too complicated).
I need a game with good SP and online play. I'm worried about the netcode (PS3)...DOA is the only fighting game I like. Mortal Kombat was okay, I hate Tekken (slooooooooooow) and VF (too complicated).
akilshohen
Member
Played through a good bit of story mode. I need to learn Mila and stop only playing Tina and Lisa. Lei-Fang is a beast.
I'm sorry the poster had to be folded
It's a nice "widescreen" version of the cover for me (and only single-sided), I thought someone mentioned they got a Kasumi Calender? Or was that something with the guide, or retailer specific? In all reality, it'd probably make decent stick art, if anyone could find an un-folded, print-ready version...
Say WHAT!!!! Didn't even know there's a storyline.
I'm sorry the poster had to be folded
In all reality, it'd probably make decent stick art, if anyone could find an un-folded, print-ready version...
The Kasumi Calendar was for the guide.
Eurogamer review
This is the Eurogamer review, not the spain version I think.
Edit: for some reason I feel this review has kind of spoilerish screenshot. Keep that in mind.
This is the Eurogamer review, not the spain version I think.
Edit: for some reason I feel this review has kind of spoilerish screenshot. Keep that in mind.
The perfect Dark
Banned
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Ok. played a few matches in online. Pretty good so far. A few matches felt slightly heavy/slow, but its playable and smooth.
The perfect Dark
Banned
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Poorly executed educational mode
Sorting replays is a chore.
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7.5 and those are their negative highlights? Wow... harsh. Reviewer must REALLY love replay organizations and crazy detailed tutorials.
Ehhh is it me or they took too much points out because of sorting replays was a chore?
Really?
EDIT: Next tutorial for DOA should teach you even how to move left and right.