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Dead Space 2 |OT| The Marker Is Not A Sharpie
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poserdonut
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BeeDog said:
OK, I'll probably check out one of those guns then. But it feels like nothing beats the plasma cutter.
poserdonut said:
Force Gun
Ripper
I went with Plasma Cutter/Line Gun/Ripper/Force Gun on Survivalist and ruined every alien's shit. Ripper in particular is invaluable till (and if) you get to the point where you have lots of ammo, because one of its blades can do quite a bit of damage even when not upgraded.
For my money, the Force Gun is the best and most versatile weapon in both games. You're talking about two games where nearly every enemy is the type that comes up to you to claw your face off. The Force Gun is the weapon that blows them all back, and when upgraded, blows them back and dismembers them. That's a weapon you want in your arsenal. And the alt fire in Dead Space 2 is even nuttier. Lastly, it continues to be the premier weapon against the Regenerator asshole.
Also, do the right thing. Don't play on Normal.
Zeliard said:
Awesome post.
Couldn't agree with you more about the Force Gun. I'm still running through Dead Space 1, trying to platinum it, and can't wait to get into Dead Space 2.
So how are the final chapters of Dead Space 2 in comparison to the first game in terms of trial/error, annoying scenarios, and overall difficulty? I played through the first game on Hard my first play through and didn't find anything too unfair. I never really had to purchase ammo from the store and utilized whatever I could scavenge. Saved up plenty of extra med supplies in the end too.
Zeliard said:
Yup. That is one gun that definitely says "Stay away from me, you creep! You're coming on too strong!". Especially handy with those Necro with yellow bomb since it just blast them away from you without a danger of exploding their bombs. Although for the Regenerator, I like to use Contact Beam's alt-fire. Nothing says "Restraining order" than a weapon that freezes your stalker and breaks off his legs so he'd stop harassing you for a moment.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Replicant said:
Fucking amazing post.
BeeDog said:
I would doubt it. But I don't know for sure.
Slightly related, IMO the Contact Beam is my favorite heavy hitter gun instead of the Force Gun. Even with minor upgrades, one shot right to the chest will completely kill most enemies (including those black ones which are a bit tougher).
The only flaw is the reload and charge-up speed. I can't wait to get the gun fully upgraded so that it's quick and super deadly.
My first playthrough gun choices were - Plasma Cutter/Pulse Rifle/Line Gun/Contact Beam.
LabouredSubterfuge
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I am finding that the closer I get to fully upgrading the Line Gun's alt fire, the more convinced I am that it might be the most powerful damage dealer in the game.
SamuraiX- said:
A lot of people have complained about the last couple or so chapters because the game starts bombarding you with enemies. But that's also where I found the Force Gun, once again, to be a very useful tool. It gives you a few seconds with which to assess the situation and make an effective next move.
Replicant said:
I actually didn't even try the Contact Beam this time around, even for the boss. In the first Dead Space, I did use it against the boss (which made it very easy), but not this time.
And as a caveat to my Force Gun praises, Contact Beam is obviously the most powerful weapon in the games, by far, but I don't think it's the best simply because it isn't terribly efficient. It exchanges power for flexibility and speedy ease-of-use in combat. Since it's mainly useful for bosses or mini-boss types, I didn't want to use a weapon slot on it.
But that's what future playthroughs are for! On my next go-around I want to specifically try not using the Plasma Cutter the entire way.
MrTroubleMaker
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nothing, sell itArjen said:
WEGGLES said:
Spoiler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxMZjudHmQA
Basically hints at a Dead Space 3.
D
Deleted member 30609
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The fast-running guys room in Chapter 4 was bullshit. :|
finished on survivalist. Enjoyed it way more than Deadspace 1. Mechanically more or less the same but the movement speeds and less wobbly cam but it more playable to me. DeadSpace1 used to make me feel so ill.
I think the best thing about deadspace2 is the loading. Even on the PC, loading for DS1 was abysmally slow so the sequel made dying less infuriating. Finished on PS3. Enjoyable all the way through with tense bits here and there. And humour.
Buy this.
I think the best thing about deadspace2 is the loading. Even on the PC, loading for DS1 was abysmally slow so the sequel made dying less infuriating. Finished on PS3. Enjoyable all the way through with tense bits here and there. And humour.
Buy this.
Rated-Rsuperstar
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Rez said:
I found it easy. I just stood at the busted door and waited for them to run at me. They only attack one at a time.
MichaelEM3
Banned
You should definitely play the game at least twice before attempting Hardcore.
It's essential that you familiarize yourself with all the scripted events, node locations, and enemy placements. That is, if you want to have a less stressful experience.
It's essential that you familiarize yourself with all the scripted events, node locations, and enemy placements. That is, if you want to have a less stressful experience.
TenshiOni said:You should definitely play the game at least twice before attempting Hardcore.
It's essential that you familiarize yourself with all the scripted events, node locations, and enemy placements. That is, if you want to have a less stressful experience.
Definitely. My Hardcore run is my 4th run and I know the entire game by heart now, yet I still find this mode tense.
Heh, funny how the Puker death scene is one of the least gory death scenes in the game, yet it's the one that disturbs me the most.
Not that I'm the BEST GAMER EVAR but I don't get how some people have trouble with Stalkers. Just stand in a corner and wait for them to charge at you. They attack one at a time, just stasis and shoot, rinse repeat. And it's easy to know you're getting into a Stalker nest because of the cries. Just move until you trigger them and back to a corner. Also, I don't get the praise they get for being "smart AI" they are really dumb and predictable, more than an annoyance than anything else.
Pukers can go fuck themselves though
Although they became relatively less of a pain in the ass after I found out that if you shoot back at them their long range puke ball they usually die in one shot.
Rez said:
Not that I'm the BEST GAMER EVAR but I don't get how some people have trouble with Stalkers. Just stand in a corner and wait for them to charge at you. They attack one at a time, just stasis and shoot, rinse repeat. And it's easy to know you're getting into a Stalker nest because of the cries. Just move until you trigger them and back to a corner. Also, I don't get the praise they get for being "smart AI" they are really dumb and predictable, more than an annoyance than anything else.
Pukers can go fuck themselves though
Although they became relatively less of a pain in the ass after I found out that if you shoot back at them their long range puke ball they usually die in one shot.
Died on the first boss on Hardcore. How embarrassing. Still, I learned to not rely so much on weapon and simply use the environment to attack the Necros. Before this, I never bothered to use the limbs of a Necro to attack other Necros and I'm surprised at how effective they can be. Limbs attack can actually be one-hit-kill so far. My mistake was letting that tripod boss jumping on me so many times. I underestimated him.
I also realized attempting Hardcore means dedicating at least a few hours since you can't save for a few chapters. In that case, I can't do this until next weekend. It sucks but I only have 1-2 hours playing time on weekdays due to work/gym schedule. As far as familiarity with the levels goes, however, so far I actually remember in great details of what enemies will come out in what area.
I think I want the trophy more. But maybe I should take up everyone's advice and just play it again on NG+ Zealot (is there a point in playing in Survivalist? There's no trophy there, is there?) first before attempting Hardcore again.
I also realized attempting Hardcore means dedicating at least a few hours since you can't save for a few chapters. In that case, I can't do this until next weekend. It sucks but I only have 1-2 hours playing time on weekdays due to work/gym schedule. As far as familiarity with the levels goes, however, so far I actually remember in great details of what enemies will come out in what area.
LiK said:
I think I want the trophy more. But maybe I should take up everyone's advice and just play it again on NG+ Zealot (is there a point in playing in Survivalist? There's no trophy there, is there?) first before attempting Hardcore again.
MichaelEM3
Banned
No trophy for Survivalist, no. But a fresh Survivalist game is closer to the Hardcore experience damage-wise (that Isaac deals and takes) than Zealot.Replicant said:
If you're aiming for the Platinum, though...then yeah, you should do a NG+ Zealot run first.
Replicant said:
Actually, I'd play on Hardcore first, before trying Zealot. I did my Zealot run before Hardcore, and Zealot would have been much more entertaining with the hand gun you get for Hardcore.
Also, I died a stupid amount of times, all for stupid reasons in the first few chapters of Hardcore - the latter half of the game is strangely much easier for me for some reason. I think it's because you're relatively underpowered for the first five chapters are so and there are a lot of sudden death opportunities in the first half of the game.
somesayyea
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Just finished this game over the weekend and overall I had a really good time - definitely a great game. That being said, i found the last couple of chapters to be the weakest of the entire game - the final "boss" battle was pretty bad.
MichaelEM3
Banned
Yeah, I've read that too. I'd be cool if Codecow and/or Monkeypants can confirm definitively once and for all (if they haven't already!).Pancho said:
Thinking back, though, I'm pretty sure you always got 3 Plasma Cutter shots per drop in Survivalist and Zealot. I think you might get three less shots of Assault Rifle rounds in Zealot when compared to Survivalist (16 --> 13, maybe? Don't remember). And as far as I remember, Force Gun, Flamethrower, Line Gun drops, and Charge Beam ammo drops were more or less the same. Maybe you get only 1 line gun ammo shot per drop in Zealot and 2 in Survivalist.
Either way, it doesn't really matter in my experience. Even in Zealot, it's not like you run into tons of enemies that drop nothing. You almost always get something. I think only two or three Necros jipped me in my entire Zealot run if memory serves correctly. And if it is Credits you're getting more so than ammo, you can just use them to buy more ammo if you're in a pinch. Force Gun ammo is really cheap!
Hardcore is undoubtedly Survivalist difficulty in terms of damage Isaac and the Necromorphs take.Replicant said:
Zealot on your first playthrough is a much, much harder experience in that respect.
Replicant said:
Zealot is really not hard with NG+, even before you get the Hardcore handgun (this is from a person who found Survivalist difficult). I actually had more "fun" fun with it than I did on my first run since I was basically a god at that point with all the unlocks you get from your first run.
ThirstyFly
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UFRA said:
I killed all those guys. There wasn't really that many. That is one of the cases where they'll spawn in 2 more enemies if you stay in there too long though (in this case, I got 2 more Lurkers), but there is a very clear break in the action after you kill off the wave. I guess that technically makes it an infinite spawn, but it's not a constant stream of fodder like a CoD game. This is on Normal, btw. I don't know about harder difficulties.
Oh well, it's not like I have a choice. I don't have 5+ hours required to play Hardcore until I can save around Chapter 5 or 7. Well, not until the weekend. So I guess, NG+ Zealot first then. May as well upgrade all of my weapons first as well while doing this run. Thx for the info guys.
Passed ZEALOT yesterday. Thinking about doing Hardcore but damn, never die and only save 3 times..... ugg. Sounds like trying to pass CoD on Veteran just to get all achievements. Not fun.
I can see the appeal though of it. So I cannot take that away from people that have enjoyed Hardcore mode already
I can see the appeal though of it. So I cannot take that away from people that have enjoyed Hardcore mode already
Platinum trophy GET! Holy shit the end-game was a bitch to get through; found it even harder than Zealot, but I suspect it's because 1) for the first time ever in a DS game I switched out my Plasma Cutter and only went with the Force Gun (and the Contact Beam for the end), and 2) my nerves were a wreck because of the insta-death moments. Thankfully, I had tons of cash and around 200 rounds for my fully upgraded Force Gun (+ 20 rounds for the Contact Beam, mwahahaha). Amazing game overall!
MichaelEM3
Banned
Oh, you can die in Hardcore. You just don't get any checkpoints. You revert back to the last save.Jinaar said:
JohngPR said:
Yeah. This is Hardcore in a nutshell:
- Only 3 saves through the entire game. My suggestion is, use the first one near the end of chapter 5 (right before THAT sequence), chapter 10/11 (if possible, I used mine in chapter 8) and then at the beginning of chapter 13 (or at the end of chapter 13 if you dare pushing on).
- No checkpoints (except for one checkpoint after the disc switch on the 360, apparently).
- Some say the difficulty level is comparable to Survivalist, but it was more akin to Zealot. At least, the ammo drop count was the same between Zealot and Hard Core. The enemies might not hit as hard as in Zealot though, so maybe it is Survivalist with the same ammo drop count as on Zealot.
Jinaar said:Passed ZEALOT yesterday. Thinking about doing Hardcore but damn, never die and only save 3 times..... ugg. Sounds like trying to pass CoD on Veteran just to get all achievements. Not fun.
I can see the appeal though of it. So I cannot take that away from people that have enjoyed Hardcore mode already
You get a gun for beating hardcore. And it is awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBS86rAT4W0.
I'd never have suffered through this mode just for epeen. Foam hand gun that kills everything in one shot, though? With the VA making "bang bang" and "pew pew" noises?
Come to mama.
BeeDog said:
Thanks for the info....I might give it a shot one day and just see if it's doable for me. Problem is that I don't have time to play that long at a time so I doubt I'll ever be able to get to chapter five before saving.
Luxarific is spoilerific.
They should have given you that gun before hand though. This way almost forces you into playing through Hardcore first, but then again...it wouldn't be very hardcore if you can kill everything with one hit.
Just cleared Chapter 9 I think, whichever is the one where you
board the Ishimura. Been playing with my wife and of course she wants to take a break at the save spot right before you get on the ship.....what a tease!!
JohngPR said:Thanks for the info....I might give it a shot one day and just see if it's doable for me. Problem is that I don't have time to play that long at a time so I doubt I'll ever be able to get to chapter five before saving.
Luxarific is spoilerific.
They should have given you that gun before hand though. This way almost forces you into playing through Hardcore first, but then again...it wouldn't be very hardcore if you can kill everything with one hit.
Just cleared Chapter 9 I think, whichever is the one where youLOLboard the Ishimura. Been playing with my wife and of course she wants to take a break at the save spot right before you get on the ship.....what a tease!!
Codecow posted it unspoilered earlier in the thread, so I'm not going to do it either.