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Kyoufu said:
Yeah. His last entrance was poor. Probably thought the ending to WM27 sucked and was sad about it.
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That would also explain the incredibly ho-hum performance in the match itself, that match was most certainly not main event material.
Maybe next year i'll get the skydiving Cena entrance I desire.
 
You always hear about how Cena's such a professional, and in that case you'd have thought that he would have gone above and beyond to make THE biggest main event of the year a hit, regardless of the lame-ass ending, but instead he was lacklustre throughout. Looked like he didn't want to be there one bit and left the far more inexperienced Miz to drive the match.

*edit, more AJPW Real World Tag League;

AJPW, 23.11.2011 - REAL WORLD TAG LEAGUE 2011
Tokyo Korakuen Hall
1,200 Fans

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC427A4EE24F6A916

JOUNETSU BAKA x HENTAI WRESTLER SPIRIT 3 MATCH SERIES - #2;

01. Hikaru Sato vs Hiroshi Yamato

REAL WORLD TAG LEAGUE MATCH;

02. Taiyo Kea & Masanobu Fuchi [3] vs KENSO & Kaz Hayashi [0]

REAL WORLD TAG LEAGUE MATCH;

03. Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi [2] vs Big Daddy & Joe Doering [2]

REAL WORLD TAG LEAGUE MATCH;

04. Takao Omori & Manabu Soya [6] vs Akebono & Ryota Hama [2]

05. Keiji Mutoh, Shuji Kondo & BUSHI vs TAJIRI, Starbuck & AKIRA

REAL WORLD TAG LEAGUE MATCH;

06. Koji Kanemoto & Minoru Tanaka [2] vs Masakatsu Funaki & Masayuki Kono [2]

REAL WORLD TAG LEAGUE MATCH;

07. Suwama & Takumi Soya [2] vs Seiya Sanada & KAI [1]

Bunch of good matches on this one - check out Sato & Yamato's 2nd match in their best of 3 series, the AJPW vs SMASH 6-man tag and the both match 6 and 7 are pretty great too.
 
Bootaaay said:
You always hear about how Cena's such a professional, and in that case you'd have thought that he would have gone above and beyond to make THE biggest main event of the year a hit, regardless of the lame-ass ending, but instead he was lacklustre throughout. Looked like he didn't want to be there one bit and left the far more inexperienced Miz to drive the match.
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The WM Match? That was fucked the moment WM became about Rocky
 
cartoon_soldier said:
The WM Match? That was fucked the moment WM became about Rocky
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Oh yeah, definitely. But it would have lessened the sting of the crappy ending had the match been anywhere near what you would expect from a WrestleMania main event.

It's funny, before the show I was adamant that Miz/Cena should be on last, but afterwards I would definitely have swapped it for Taker/HHH. The whole Rock involvement really shit the bed.
 
Bootaaay said:
You always hear about how Cena's such a professional, and in that case you'd have thought that he would have gone above and beyond to make THE biggest main event of the year a hit, regardless of the lame-ass ending, but instead he was lacklustre throughout. Looked like he didn't want to be there one bit and left the far more inexperienced Miz to drive the match.
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I think it's quite telling that I was watching WM with some friends and the one who hadn't watched WWE since 2007 even picked up on Cena's phoned in performance. Of course the real victim in all of this was Miz, he was busting out a few new moves if i'm not mistaken and was likely trying hard to put on a memorable match for what was no doubt the biggest match of his career, instead it's only remembered for The Rock screwing over Cena. Then again the feud itself was far more Rock/Cena than Cena/Miz. I'm usually someone who will give Cena credit for his big main event matches but this time he dropped the ball severely.

Hopefully WM28 will bring back some of the spectacle that the event seems to have lost, they really need to stop having minute long matches and filling up the show with celebrities, musical performances and video reels mostly unrelated to the event in progress. I'm still feeling gypped that this year there was no Sheamus/Bryan and that the big tag match was horribly short.

Of course if anything I think it's far more likely that WM will extend to 5 hours and somehow have less match time and more padding.
 
Bootaaay said:
You always hear about how Cena's such a professional, and in that case you'd have thought that he would have gone above and beyond to make THE biggest main event of the year a hit, regardless of the lame-ass ending, but instead he was lacklustre throughout. Looked like he didn't want to be there one bit and left the far more inexperienced Miz to drive the match.
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There's a difference between being a professional and being a company man.

People like Kane and John Cena are company men.

People like Bret Hart, CM Punk, Jericho, and (well, 2nd run) HBK are what you call professionals.

Company men like Kane and Cena? They do whatever they're booked to do and don't cause much of aruckus backstage or exert much creative control.

Professionals, they'll do their work in accordance with the vision of the company, but in the meantime they'll try to grab the ear of management and let them know when stuff doesn't work and improve it. They're driven by excellence and one-upping themselves and each other, stealing the spotlighit and providing a memorable experience, rather than being a part of the show.

Cena's a company man being put in a Hulk Hogan role and it's bad because it comes off as kind of scripted and cliche when you have someone like that in that kind of a role. At least hogan took the hulkamania gimmick and ran with it as his own, while it feels like cena is just playing a role as the marine never-say-die unfazed face. Doesn't really come off as John Cena, but a role that John Cena is playing if you can get what I mean.
 
cartoon_soldier said:
The WM Match? That was fucked the moment WM became about Rocky
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Agreed. However, Cena selling a boot to the head like he'd just had a stroke and just being dazed target practice for The Miz made a bad situation worse. The stuff before the restart was showing some promise-- then The Rock came out.

I said that the main event for WrestleMania should have been Punk versus Cena. They laughed at me! They called me names! I was lower than dirt. Who's laughing now, huh? WHO'S LAUGHING NOW!?
 
Parallax said:
Very much this.
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Agree 100%. Cena came out not caring because he knew how shitty the finish would be. Miz/Cena knocked out, 10 count, Rock saves WM, WM about the Rock, yay!

Miz/Cena was an angle on WM27 for Rock/Cena in WM28. I can't believe I'm saying this ..
 
--Wrestler Category--

Best Overall Wrestler: Dolph Ziggler
Worst Overall Wrestler: Mason Ryan
Best Wrestler on the Mic: CM Punk
Worst Wrestler on the Mic: John Cena
Best Worker: Dolph Ziggler
Worst Worker: Jeff Hardy
Best Rookie Wrestler: Don't know any?
Most Improved Wrestler: Zack Ryder
Most Declined Wrestler: Jeff Hardy
Best Comeback: The Rock
Time to Retire: Kevin Nash
Best Finishing Move:
Worst Finishing Move: Go To Sleep
Best Theme Music: Cody Rhodes
Worst Theme Music: Wade Barrett

Best Manager: Vickie Guerrero
Best Announcer/Announce Team: Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler

Top Five Wrestlers of the Year:
Dolph Ziggler, CM Punk, Cody Rhodes, Wade Barrett, R-Truth

--Promotions Category--

Best Promotion: WWE
Worst Promotion: TNA
Most Improved Promotion: CHIKARA
Most Declined Promotion: WWE
Best Storyline: CM Punk's Contract
Worst Storyline: Kevin Nash - "but who was phone?"
Biggest missed opportunity of the Year: CM Punk returning too soon after his contract expired


--Event Category--

Best match of the year: CM Punk vs. John Cena, MITB
Worst match of the year: The 6 man tag match shit show at Wrestlemania
Best PPV theme song of the year: Bright Lights, Bigger City
Best segment of the year: CM Punk's shoot promo
Worst segment of the year: Kevin Nash/HHH/CM Punk phone shit
Best PPV of the year: Money in the Bank
Worst PPV of the year: Capitol Punishment
Best Video Hype Package: Sin Cara's?

--WrestleGAF Category--

Best Wresslegaffer: Spindashing and g_fex, I can't pick! :(!
Worst Wresttlegaffer: Matthew Gallant
Most improved Wresslegaffer: G-Fex
Rookie Wresslegaffer of the year: Me!
Best photoshop: Sunflower's pixelization of like everyone.
Best Gif: Sin Cara No Mercy
Best Smark: (Do we have any of these?)
Best Little Jimmy: Professor Beef
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
I think it only had a single announced match.
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They announced two matches. The other was the tag team match between The Hardy Boys and MNM.

Also those were pretty much the only matches the card even had. The damn thing was barely two hours long and that included a 20 stalling for time promo by Paul Heyman.
 
Nocturnowl said:
I think it's quite telling that I was watching WM with some friends and the one who hadn't watched WWE since 2007 even picked up on Cena's phoned in performance. Of course the real victim in all of this was Miz, he was busting out a few new moves if i'm not mistaken and was likely trying hard to put on a memorable match for what was no doubt the biggest match of his career, instead it's only remembered for The Rock screwing over Cena. Then again the feud itself was far more Rock/Cena than Cena/Miz. I'm usually someone who will give Cena credit for his big main event matches but this time he dropped the ball severely.

Hopefully WM28 will bring back some of the spectacle that the event seems to have lost, they really need to stop having minute long matches and filling up the show with celebrities, musical performances and video reels mostly unrelated to the event in progress. I'm still feeling gypped that this year there was no Sheamus/Bryan and that the big tag match was horribly short.

Of course if anything I think it's far more likely that WM will extend to 5 hours and somehow have less match time and more padding.
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Plus all Miz got for his trouble was a concussion.

Still the only memorable part of the match, Miz's head cracking off the concrete at the end of the match, made me cringe when I saw it.
 
Do you guys know how long it took me to watch Impact on my DVR last night?


10 Min. I think I only watched the girls washing the cars, because I have a Tara fetish.
 
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Watching old matches really shows how much livelier the crowd used to be, even back in 2002, when the product was pretty bad. It's sad seeing what the crowd has become. Sure, there are exceptions now and again in NYC or Chicago, but it's just not the same on a nightly basis.
 
SoulPlaya said:
Watching old matches really shows how much livelier the crowd used to be, even back in 2002, when the product was pretty bad. It's sad seeing what the crowd has become. Sure, there are exceptions now and again in NYC or Chicago, but it's just not the same on a nightly basis.
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Watch somthing from 98', 99'; Road Dogg was getting bigger reactions then Cena.
 
Last ever BattlARTS show :(

BattlARTS "ONCE UPON A TIME IN BATTLARTS - THAT TIME IS NOT FORGOTTEN", 05.11.2011
Shinjuku FACE
867 Fans - Super No Vacancy Full House

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3DCA916A45249264

01. Keita Yano vs Kenji Takeshima

02. Kana vs Aki Shizuku

03. Takeshi Ono & Ryuji Hijikata vs Kengo Mashimo & Junji Tanaka

04. Super Tiger II & Sanchu Tsubakichi vs Alexander Otsuka & Ryuji Walter

05. Ikuto Hidaka & Minoru Tanaka vs Katsumi Usuda & Yujiro Yamamoto

06. Munenori Sawa vs Manabu Suruga

07. Yuki Ishikawa vs Daisuke Ikeda

BattlARTS started all the way back in 1996 when Yuki Ishikawa led a revolt at the Fujiwara Gumi promotion, taking all the wrestlers from Fujiwara's promotion with him to form BattlARTS, and the promotion had a big hand in the development of some top Japanese talent like Ikuto Hidaka, Minoru Tanaka, Mohammed Yone, Shoichi Funaki (yes, THAT Funaki), Yoshihiro Tajiri, Kana and Munenori Sawa.

The last 3 matches are all worth a watch on this one - Hidaka & Tanaka return to their home promotion to pay their respects with a good tag match against Usuda & Yamamoto, while Munenori Sawa takes on his old rival Manabu Suruga and in the main event the long-standing feud between Yuki Ishikawa & Daisuke Ikeda reaches it's final chapter.

Check out match 1 for an awesome 5 minute highlight package of BattlARTS history. So long BattlARTS, you were awesome :(
 
Striker said:
Only this time last year you were grinding his jean shorts.
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I'm not a Cena hater at all. He can be entertaining or good in the mic/ring when he is allowed to be, but Creative/Vince have castrated him with his current gimmick/personality.

He can easily do repeats of Money in the Bank but instead he's kissing Dwayne's ass. I blame WWE.
 
The only time I respected or liked Cena was when he took time off from the title hunt to put over Wade Barrett and the Nexus. Then he went and killed Wade Barrett with a barrage (see what I did there?) of steel chairs. Barrett hasn't recovered since. In fact, no NXT winner has recovered from that burial.
 
SoulPlaya said:
Watching old matches really shows how much livelier the crowd used to be, even back in 2002, when the product was pretty bad. It's sad seeing what the crowd has become. Sure, there are exceptions now and again in NYC or Chicago, but it's just not the same on a nightly basis.
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There all 5 year olds now.
 
djsandman said:
The only time I respected or liked Cena was when he took time off from the title hunt to put over Wade Barrett and the Nexus. Then he went and killed Wade Barrett with a barrage (see what I did there?) of steel chairs. Barrett hasn't recovered since. In fact, no NXT winner has recovered from that burial.
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Wade is talented enough to bounce back, I'm sure. As long as they book him right (lol).

The others really suck though. Justin Gabriel has no personality. Heath Slater makes me want to punch myself in the face and I don't know who David Otunga is. I tried googling him but all I got was Jennifer Hudson.
 
djsandman said:
The only time I respected or liked Cena was when he took time off from the title hunt to put over Wade Barrett and the Nexus. Then he went and killed Wade Barrett with a barrage (see what I did there?) of steel chairs. Barrett hasn't recovered since. In fact, no NXT winner has recovered from that burial.
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When you have one man bury an entire stable, single handedly, well of course it's going to be hard to recover.
 
Kyoufu said:
Wade is talented enough to bounce back, I'm sure. As long as they book him right (lol).

The others really suck though. Justin Gabriel has no personality. Heath Slater makes me want to punch myself in the face and I don't know who David Otunga is. I tried googling him but all I got was Jennifer Hudson.
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I agree. If NXT was the future of the industry, than I would kill myself.
 
djsandman said:
The only time I respected or liked Cena was when he took time off from the title hunt to put over Wade Barrett and the Nexus. Then he went and killed Wade Barrett with a barrage (see what I did there?) of steel chairs. Barrett hasn't recovered since. In fact, no NXT winner has recovered from that burial.
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i thought Punk buried Barrett. Shouldnt you be pissed at Punk?
 
djsandman said:
The only time I respected or liked Cena was when he took time off from the title hunt to put over Wade Barrett and the Nexus. Then he went and killed Wade Barrett with a barrage (see what I did there?) of steel chairs. Barrett hasn't recovered since. In fact, no NXT winner has recovered from that burial.
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Barrett's coming back strongly now though, though it knocked his rise back a full year.
 
In fact, I expect Barrett to become big in the future. He is really really solid on the mic. He was the only interesting part of the Nexus angle.
 
You people like to bitch about Punk's GTS, but Wade Barrett has a TRULY terrible finisher, and will NEVER get over as long as he keeps using it. At least the GTS looks like it can hurt. Wasteland is worse than the World Strongest Slam, the AA, or Cena's STF.
 
Kyoufu said:
I'm not a Cena hater at all. He can be entertaining or good in the mic/ring when he is allowed to be, but Creative/Vince have castrated him with his current gimmick/personality.

He can easily do repeats of Money in the Bank but instead he's kissing Dwayne's ass. I blame WWE.
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1) Him being cheesy or phony on the mic is his own blame; he hardly comes off as believable or worthwhile.
2) None of the MitB draw was on Cena. And even with that PPV buy-rate, it's been dog shit ever since.
 
Net_Wrecker said:
You people like to bitch about Punk's GTS, but Wade Barrett has a TRULY terrible finisher, and will NEVER get over as long as he keeps using it. At least the GTS looks like it can hurt. Wasteland is worse than the World Strongest Slam, the AA, or Cena's STF.
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Can CM Punk GTS Mark Henry? hmmmmm? doubt it.
 
Striker said:
1) Him being cheesy or phony on the mic is his own blame; he hardly comes off as believable or worthwhile.
2) None of the MitB draw was on Cena. And even with that PPV buy-rate, it's been dog shit ever since.
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I'm just saying Cena was no slouch in that match. He rose to the occasion instead of pulling out his 5 moves of doom. You can't deny that.
 
Net_Wrecker said:
You people like to bitch about Punk's GTS, but Wade Barrett has a TRULY terrible finisher, and will NEVER get over as long as he keeps using it. At least the GTS looks like it can hurt. Wasteland is worse than the World Strongest Slam, the AA, or Cena's STF.
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Wasteland is like an AA into a World's Strongest Slam.
 
bangai-o said:
Can CM Punk GTS Mark Henry? hmmmmm? doubt it.
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I even remember at point they were pushing Barrett and Henry was still in his jobbing days (this was post-era of his tag team days with MVP), and they had Barrett give the Wasteland to Henry, and it was all ugly. The move stinks, no matter who its done to.

Kyoufu said:
I'm just saying Cena was no slouch in that match. He rose to the occasion instead of pulling out his 5 moves of doom. You can't deny that.
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The match was sloppy as shit. If he proved he can do a match that doesn't consist of 5 moves of doom, congrats. He sure proved his doubters wrong! Chavo also said afterwards, keep it up -- but did he? No, of course not.
 
Net_Wrecker said:
You people like to bitch about Punk's GTS, but Wade Barrett has a TRULY terrible finisher, and will NEVER get over as long as he keeps using it. At least the GTS looks like it can hurt. Wasteland is worse than the World Strongest Slam, the AA, or Cena's STF.
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What? Wasteland is better than GTS.

Punk's flimsy ass knee never connects to any of the people he faces, because everyone he wrassles is taller than him. At least Wasteland has an impact when the guy falls onto the mat.
spindashing said:
What the HELL. NO. NO.
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dem abs

just like AJ
 
Definitely agree, Wasteland sucks arse. You would think that when you're aspiring to become a main eventer in this business, you'll want to have a finisher that is up to the task.

The legacy left behind the greats from the 80s/90s and early 2000s seems lost on the new generation, IMO.

I mean, sure, not everyone can go around with a Stunner as a finisher but I'm sure they can do better than Wasteland.

Look at Cody Rhodes, he knows what he's doing.
 
Plywood said:
Better tweet her.
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I don't follow TNA wrestlers. They speak differently than us.

djsandman said:
I would even say that Rough Ryder is better than Wasteland, and that has hardly any impact either.
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I really like Ryder's ECW finishing move, the Zack Attack. (Which was also Matt Striker's) That move pretty much made me think that Ryder was a legitimate threat in this fake wrestling business. It looked like it hurt like hell. I wish he kept it instead of the Rough Ryder.

Also, jeez -- after seeing that old clip, it really is evident that Ryder is balding.
 
About the only time the Wasteland ever looked decent was when Kofi took and it and bounced around the place like he'd been fired into the ring by a cannon.

It's so lame and lacks so much impact that it requires massive overselling to make it look halfway decent. I'd like to see Ziggler take it.
 
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