December Wrasslin |OT| Shaking Hands, Jerking Knees, Eating Mistletoe, Feeling Energy

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Parallax said:
I guess that's as close to an example as you're gonna get, except I've never been, or had the need to be leader.
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See this is why The Nation is the strongest group out there. We don't need a leader. We know what has to be done, to get to the top and defeat The Man.

BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

We need a guy who reads these threads and is tired of the same old whining. We need a guy to step up and say enough is enough, and it's time for a change!
 
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Saritas New Body she got
 
wow...that dirty win over The Beef Wreckers has really gone to Frankman's head.

First the nation sabotages the first annual elimination chamber then this.
 
bean breath said:
He's mad because today was Impact night and he's the only one that still cares.
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I care....
about Tara and Tessmacher

that and...what about Bobby Roode's family :(?

Know what Lunchbox, I don't have maven but I've got Raven..., that's just as good right?
 
bean breath said:
You want wrestling? Watch Superstars.


But you don't watch Superstars, right? That's because you love Action Soap Opera just as much as the rest of us.
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Hey bean, wasn't TNA Impact the show that one time had a grand total of 19 minutes of wrasslin?

You know the show where everyone can end the match with a finisher in the first 4 seconds.
 
G-Fex said:
Hey bean, wasn't TNA Impact the show that one time had a grand total of 19 minutes of wrasslin?

You know the show where everyone can end the match with a finisher in the first 4 seconds.
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I think Lunchbox is like Bangai-o but instead of learning the Sharpshooter to use in a real life fight, he decided that a roll-up pin was more effective. And if you want to see plenty of reference to learn from there's no better source than Impact Wrestling.
 
bean breath said:
I think Lunchbox is like Bangai-o but instead of learning the Sharpshooter to use in a real life fight, he decided that a roll-up pin was more effective. And if you want to see plenty of reference to learn from there's no better source than Impact Wrestling.
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Bootaaay said:
Punk's offence doesn't look great, it never did, even before he began emulating KENTA, but I can't say he's a lousy worker when he is so great at pretty much everything else.



That's cool and all, but I'd just like to point out that the guy you're calling 'Worst Wrestler of the Year' was voted by the Wrestling Observer as Best Technical Wrestler 6 years running, Most Outstanding Wrestler 5 years running and Most Outstanding Wrestler of the Last Decade, as well as holding dozens of titles the world over.

When it comes to Daniel Bryan trolling, dream did it better anyways.
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Well I was actually being serious in any case, he lacks a certain charisma he may be best technical wrestler. But the lack of gimmick and this goes for a fair few on WWE need a better gimmick hurts them. Also I may me in the minority here but I hate it when promotions try and pull off wrestling is real we will treat it as a sport. I think that's what D.Bryan is being connected to ROH and doesn't gel well with my WWE expectations.
 
Best Overall Wrestler - CM Punk
Worst Overall Wrestler - Big Show
Best Wrestler on the Mic - Punk
Worst Wrestler on the Mic - John Cena
Best Worker - Dolph Ziggler
Worst Worker - Kelly Kelly
Best Rookie Wrestler - Daniel Bryan
Most Improved Wrestler - Zack Ryder
Most Declined Wrestler -John Morrison
Best Comeback - Punk
Time to Retire - Hogan/Flair
Best Finishing Move - RKO
Worst Finishing Move - Kelly's roll up pin
Best Theme Music - CM Punk's
Worst Theme Music - Morrison

Best Manager - None
Best Announcer/Announce Team: Booker T

Top Five Wrestlers of the Year: Randy Orton, Dolph Ziggler, CM Punk, ...um...I don't know who else.


--Promotions Category--

Best Promotion - NWA
Worst Promotion - WWE
Most Improved Promotion - NWA
Most Declined Promotion - WWE
Best Storyline - G-Fex/Professor Beef Rivalry
Worst Storyline - Cena's stuff
Biggest missed opportunity of the Year - Punk vs the world.


--Event Category--

Best match of the year - I don't know
Worst match of the year -Anything involving Cole
Best PPV theme song of the year - My way - Limp Bizkit
Best segment of the year - CM Punk Shoot Promo
Worst segment of the year - Cole
Best PPV of the year - I haven't a clue
Worst PPV of the year - Night of Champions
Best Video Hype Package - What?

--WrestleGAF Category--

Best Wresslegaffer - Beef/Plywood/Wrecker/Parallax/Bean breath
Worst Wresttlegaffer - Dream
Most improved Wresslegaffer - Noren and Keyser Soze
Rookie Wresslegaffer of the year -G-fex
Best photoshop - What ya'll arguing for i'm just gonna win anyway
Best Gif -Sin Cara No Mercy gif
Best Smark - Heavy
Best Little Jimmy - Seraphis Cain
 
Linkified said:
Well I was actually being serious in any case, he lacks a certain charisma he may be best technical wrestler. But the lack of gimmick and this goes for a fair few on WWE need a better gimmick hurts them. Also I may me in the minority here but I hate it when promotions try and pull off wrestling is real we will treat it as a sport. I think that's what D.Bryan is being connected to ROH and doesn't gel well with my WWE expectations.
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He has a gimmick; submission specialist, but if anything it's the fault of WWE Creative for not playing this up effectively. They have the blueprint - Chris Benoit, they just seem reluctant to push Bryan too far in that direction. For every somewhat intense promo he cuts, he'll be back to smiley, dorky D-Brine the next week, which muddies his gimmick. But even so, it's like someone else pointed out; I'm no fan of Jack Swagger, but he's undeniably a good wrestler.

I'm going to stop arguing this now though, as it's pretty obvious we're polar opposites when it comes to wrestling we enjoy. I've always enjoyed promotions that put an emphasis on competition and a sports like presentation, which is why I've been drawn over the years to promotions like Mid-South, UWF, World of Sport, Smoky Mountain, BattlARTS and Japanese wrestling in general. Wrestling > Sports Entertainment.
 
As Daniel Bryan's match with Mark Henry showed, if they give him a chance and push him, Daniel Bryan will be over with the crowd. No shit, you bury the guy for 3 months and have him lose to everyone, never get promo time, get insulted by Cole every night, and never wrestle on ppvs of course he won't be over.
 
I see. Well remember this you may all have your little factions, but we all belong to the same federation. Let us not forget that.

I have not had any wrestling dreams lately, but I did run into Alberto dellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Riooooooooooooooo at the gym.

Brothers let us not fight but unite!!!
 
Bootaaay said:
He has a gimmick; submission specialist, but if anything it's the fault of WWE Creative for not playing this up effectively. They have the blueprint - Chris Benoit, they just seem reluctant to push Bryan too far in that direction. For every somewhat intense promo he cuts, he'll be back to smiley, dorky D-Brine the next week, which muddies his gimmick. But even so, it's like someone else pointed out; I'm no fan of Jack Swagger, but he's undeniably a good wrestler.

I'm going to stop arguing this now though, as it's pretty obvious we're polar opposites when it comes to wrestling we enjoy. I've always enjoyed promotions that put an emphasis on competition and a sports like presentation, which is why I've been drawn over the years to promotions like Mid-South, UWF, World of Sport, Smoky Mountain, BattlARTS and Japanese wrestling in general. Wrestling > Sports Entertainment.
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Well it would be a boring place if we all liked the same stuff.
 
I dunno, if everyone liked the same stuff as me I'd probably get to see more quality wrestling on WWE television rather than dumb "let's pretend the camera isn't here!" backstage segments and overly long in-ring promos ;)
 
Bootaaay said:
I dunno, if everyone liked the same stuff as me I'd probably get to see more quality wrestling on WWE television rather than dumb "let's pretend the camera isn't here!" backstage segments and overly long in-ring promos ;)
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Because I like wacky and comedy would Chikara be up my sleeve or is it still to 'wrestling centric' for a WWE fan to get into?
 
Bootaaay said:
I dunno, if everyone liked the same stuff as me I'd probably get to see more quality wrestling on WWE television rather than dumb "let's pretend the camera isn't here!" backstage segments and overly long in-ring promos ;)
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, that might be my wrestling pet peeve. The worst recent offender was Johnny Ace revealing his plan to make Brodus Clay "frustrated" by constantly delaying his re-debut just so he comes back meaner than ever.....ON CAMERA.

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You seriously expect anyone to buy that Clay didn't watch Raw, and that you don't know there's a camera and lighting crew right there? Just as bad as when stuff happens outside of the ring and they act like we're not seeing something completely staged. At least say that one of the wrestlers involved requested a cameraman to follow and tape whatever happens.
 
Net_Wrecker said:
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, that might be my wrestling pet peeve. The worst recent offender was Johnny Ace revealing his plan to make Brodus Clay "frustrated" by constantly delaying his re-debut just so he comes back meaner than ever.....ON CAMERA.

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You seriously expect anyone to buy that Clay didn't watch Raw, and that you don't know there's a camera and lighting crew right there? Just as bad as when stuff happens outside of the ring and they act like we're not seeing something completely staged. At least say that one of the wrestlers involved requested a cameraman to follow and tape whatever happens.
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Isn't the point though that the audience sees it but the performers don't - other TV shows have done this before
 
Net_Wrecker said:
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, that might be my wrestling pet peeve. The worst recent offender was Johnny Ace revealing his plan to make Brodus Clay "frustrated" by constantly delaying his re-debut just so he comes back meaner than ever.....ON CAMERA.

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You seriously expect anyone to buy that Clay didn't watch Raw, and that you don't know there's a camera and lighting crew right there? Just as bad as when stuff happens outside of the ring and they act like we're not seeing something completely staged. At least say that one of the wrestlers involved requested a cameraman to follow and tape whatever happens.
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Clay's too busy waiting by the phone for his text/phone call getting angrier by the second to watch the tv/ WWE logic.
On the other hand that goof Daniel Bryan doesn't even have a tv! he has no idea what happens on events he's not participating on, this clearly explains his ppv absence over the last few months.
 
OK, this match was a ton of fun;

DDT EXTREME TITLE FALLS COUNT ANYWHERE MATCH;

El Generico (c) vs Sanshiro Takagi - (UNION 11/22/11)

Reasons you should watch this match;

Generico's crazy over-selling.
Generico's perfectly executed through-the-ropes Tornado DDT.
Takagi's bicycle-assisted clothesline.
Generico skateboarding on a balcony ledge.
Ollie into a crossbody! HOLY SHIT!
A Japanese table that actually breaks.
BRAINBUSTAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!

Linkified said:
Because I like wacky and comedy would Chikara be up my sleeve or is it still to 'wrestling centric' for a WWE fan to get into?
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CHIKARA's pretty much the perfect antidote to ROH's super serious style, but they're still an indy wrestling company and with that comes the usual aspects, good and bad, that people associate with indy wrestling; fast paced, action packed matches with innovative wrestling, but also a tendency to go too crazy with the number of moves in a match, too many near-falls from big bumps, etc. Matches that aren't the main event often going 15 minutes or more and while production values aren't bad, the venues they use often scream "indy-rific". But, there are a lot of things you might like about CHIKARA - the wacky characters, comedy bits during matches and just the general light-hearted, PG family fun CHIKARA tries to promote. I'd suggest checking out the recent iPPV 'High Noon', it was pretty much CHIKARA's best show of the year and showcased all the elements that make CHIKARA great.

Net_Wrecker said:
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, that might be my wrestling pet peeve.
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Yeah, I really can't stand it. Any time Laryngitis is on camera backstage, you just know it's going to be footage of him and his cronies plotting something. You think they'd want that to be private - at least have the heels act like the cameraman's filmed something they weren't supposed to. It's ridiculous that no one references it. Punk should be all like "I saw you and Alberto plotting to screw me over!".

Linkified said:
Isn't the point though that the audience sees it but the performers don't - other TV shows have done this before
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It's just another obstacle to suspending disbelief - wrestlers can watch the in-match action backstage on monitors, as WWE are keen to display on occasion, but we're supposed to believe that they're oblivious to everything else happening on the show that we aren't shown them directly seeing or participating in.
 
Linkified said:
Isn't the point though that the audience sees it but the performers don't - other TV shows have done this before
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But that's clearly not universal logic as we've seen wrestlers responding to and interrupting segments just like that one, and watching monitors in the back. It breaks their own rules and is just too much IMO, especially in 2011 when everyone older than John Cena's target audience is "in" on it. TNA is often times worse, but they also use the "stealthy TMZ camera man" so at least there's some logic to that one.

Backstage segments should be one of 3 things: An interview, an "in progress" beatdown that the camera men been rushed to start filming right before security attempts to restore order, or a combination of the two. Everything else should happen in the ring, and be a PART of the show rather than just a "television segment."
 
Kyoufu said:
Cena used to have cool entrances. He became a top guy for a reason. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMgqcDgIBk0&feature=g-vrec

But now... He has been castrated. Does his salute, runs in, and then bores you to death in the ring.
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What about his little comments to the camera before he comes down to the ring? it makes his entrances that much more entertaining.
His WM entrances have been on a downward slide, I used to look forward to what crazy way he would enter each year but the last 2 were pretty poor.
 
Nocturnowl said:
What about his little comments to the camera before he comes down to the ring? it makes his entrances that much more entertaining.
His WM entrances have been on a downward slide, I used to look forward to what crazy way he would enter each year but the last 2 were pretty poor.
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Yeah. His last entrance was poor. Probably thought the ending to WM27 sucked and was sad about it.
 
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