Deep Silver PR guy receives drugged drink at E3 party (intended for a girl)

LordRaptor said:
You should probably realise that the worst case scenarios for men and women in that situation are very, very, very different.
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That's BS. Plenty of men get taken and robbed and murdered etc. They may not all get sexually assaulted, but there really isn't anything worse than being killed.
 
Applemancer said:
This isn't even the only horrible thing that happened at E3. Laura Kate describes her Uber experience thusly...

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Yeah heard about that. Good she was able to get away.
 
This is so depressing.

At least it doesn't sound like they were able to actually succeed in their scheme - but who knows if other sorts of horrifying things happened that didn't become public knowledge :(
 
Horsemama1956 said:
That's BS. Plenty of men get taken and robbed and murdered etc. They may not all get sexually assaulted, but there really isn't anything worse than being killed.
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Right, aside from TV shows I don't know any occurrences of people getting killed by their taxi drivers and I doubt it is frequent.

Besides that, the risks are greater for a woman. It can be way more frightening for women as there are more plausible risks, higher risks and less chance of preventing them. Yes it can be very frightening for men too, but that doesn't mean they would on average feel the same.
 
Horsemama1956 said:
That's BS. Plenty of men get taken and robbed and murdered etc. They may not all get sexually assaulted, but there really isn't anything worse than being killed.
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If it makes you feel better, replace what I said with "The worst case scenarios and probability of them occurring are vastly different between men and women"
 
SomedayTheFire said:
It was an industry party attended by people in the industry.
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But was it? Legitimate question - I've been hearing a lot of industry-related parties that industry people couldn't even get to because all the celebs and friends-of-friends getting so much of the invitations. If it wasn't really industry-only, maybe it would be even a bit safer if it was, due to less people that no one knows. But I don't really have faith that the organizers would do it.

But then again, terrible people are everywhere. :-/
 
Why would he even lie? He has NOTHING to gain from that, stupid Twitter users.

This sort of shitty thing happens everywhere and it's even worse that it's happening at a place that SHOULD be safe for women. Hope they catch the fucker(s).
 
Horsemama1956 said:
That's BS. Plenty of men get taken and robbed and murdered etc. They may not all get sexually assaulted, but there really isn't anything worse than being killed.
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Do you know that for a fact? Have you been raped and killed so you can compare the two?

Perhaps more relevantly, did you know the US has a murder rate of 5 per 10k citizens per year, while it has a police reported rape rate (leaving out unreported rapes) of 27.3 per 10k/year? This means it's literally well over five times as likely to be raped than to be murdered, and you should be therefore five times as worried about that. Well, unless you're a guy, since:
https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence said:
82% of all juvenile victims are female. 90% of adult rape victims are female.
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But yeah, keep up this Men's Rights Movement bullshit that a man has the exact same things to fear from another man than a woman does.
 
zaldrizes said:
Why at E3 of all places?
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This happens all of the time, everywhere strangers are gathered in one location and alcohol is involved.

Drugging drinks or creepy uber drivers are NOT an issue with Gamers, but with fucking psychotic human beings. Since these two particular stories took place at E3, they're garnering a lot of attention here, a gaming oriented site.
 
zaldrizes said:
Why at E3 of all places?
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There's dangerous people everywhere. It sucks being labeled as "paranoid" but people really do have to be cautious when around other people. It does suck, but that's the world we live in, unfortunately. Let's not forget about all of the pickpockets/thieves there are at these sorts of events either.
 
Christ. What the fuck. This is all so messed up. At least nothing worse happened to them, I guess...

And those assholes who think he's lying should piss the fuck off.
 
This is freaking crazy and horrible that people are accusing him of lying. I've been drugged before and it's not a fun experience, I gave my drink to one of my friends who is a girl, went to the bathroom, came back, drank it, and then blacked out. It was my only drink of the night, next thing I remember is being on someones lawn shirtless throwing up with my friends trying to take care of me.
 
I can't believe people actually do this.

I mean, I can, but I just can't fathom going through with it.

Drugging someone so you can have sex with them? How could you possibly derive any pleasure from that? How could you live with yourself?

Terrifying.
 
Tagyhag said:
Why would he even lie? He has NOTHING to gain from that, stupid Twitter users.

This sort of shitty thing happens everywhere and it's even worse that it's happening at a place that SHOULD be safe for women. Hope they catch the fucker(s).
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People lie to get attention, undeserved emotional backing, new friends and publicity to name a few sinister things. Playing a fake victim in the face of real victims is one of the worst things you can do as a human being to another and is pure shameful.

This situation screams none of that, and the guy deserves some kind words of support and to be able to use the platform of social media as a reminder to everyone to never leave your drinks unattended. Nor should you ever let a stranger buy you a drink, or at the very least be present when someone buys you a drink to make sure it goes from bar person to your hands.

There's a reason no matter how small the percentages can be argued by some on here spiking drinks or tampering with drinks is an easy thing to do. Social event, noise, people probably already drunk... it's an easy target. Stay safe when around drinks and in public GAF. Never worth the risks. Glad this guy walked away startled but ultimately unharmed. I would at least report this to the event/event staff in question. They should be aware something sinister happened at their bar. Could happen again if it is a local targeting new folk.
 
LordRaptor said:
Deep Silver have something of a history of shitty PR stunts, but there aren't any products that even vaguely relate to date rape that should lead to that question
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Yeah, I think Deep Silver's trailer for Mighty No. 9 was nothing short of abysmal, but I'm going to question your priorities if a random employee for them getting drugged is a cause to call them an attention seeking liar.
 
Had this happen to me in college. It sucked at the time, but I was happy I took the hit instead of the girl it was intended for and what could/would've happened to her.
 
I know a girl who was drugged, along with a number of her friends, on her birthday and ended up in hospital for days. From what I understand the drug that got slipped into her drink wasn't intended for rape, but someone was using her and her friends as tests to see if it was safe for consumption. Slightly different, but my point is that this sort of shit is serious, dangerous and scary.

I really hope they have footage of the place and can find who did it.
 
LordRaptor said:
You should probably realise that the worst case scenarios for men and women in that situation are very, very, very different.
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Because men are so much stronger, am I right? The worst case scenario can be the same for both men and women in that situation. With such an attitude, it's no surprise that male who get raped are still being ridiculed and are even less likely than females to report such incidents.
 
SPE said:
There are a bunch of studies have been done, and they've all found the same thing. The vast majority of people brought into hospital with date rape drink spiking just had alcohol in their system. A number had taken recreational drugs. A tiny number had date rape drugs present. Another article discussing it here, with reference to yet another study.

https://www.theguardian.com/science...ate-rape-drug-facilitated-sexual-assault-dfsa





There are a bunch of drugs that react badly with alcohol, from anti-anxiety meds to sleeping pills, to party drugs. In light of the rarity of drug facilitated sexual assault, I'd imaging the dude at E3 mixed a lot of booze with other meds, especially if he reported the effects lasted 2 days. Rohyponol, GBH and K don't do this, they last 4-12 hours and you just feel a little groggy afterwards.
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Huh. I did not know this (apart from point that some meds react badly with drinking. I thought that's common knowledge and people would exclude that / not drink during that time)


I guess the end result doesn't change much, there's still a chance someone might take advantage of a really drunk girl, even though he didn't actually spike anyone's drink.

On the other hand, maybe people will feel a bit more safe knowing that in almost all cases there actually isn't some predator around. Especially if it happens at a non-public event where you would expect to be able to let your guard down.
 
Shiggy said:
Because men are so much stronger, am I right? The worst case scenario can be the same for both men and women in that situation. With such an attitude, it's no surprise that male who get raped are still being ridiculed and are even less likely than females to report such incidents.
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Are you deliberately ignoring his follow-up response and this other response?

LordRaptor said:
If it makes you feel better, replace what I said with "The worst case scenarios and probability of them occurring are vastly different between men and women"
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Weltall Zero said:
Do you know that for a fact? Have you been raped and killed so you can compare the two?

Perhaps more relevantly, did you know the US has a murder rate of 5 per 10k citizens per year, while it has a police reported rape rate (leaving out unreported rapes) of 27.3 per 10k/year? This means it's literally well over five times as likely to be raped than to be murdered, and you should be therefore five times as worried about that. Well, unless you're a guy, since:


But yeah, keep up this Men's Rights Movement bullshit that a man has the exact same things to fear from another man than a woman does.
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Have I been naive all these years in thinking that E3/E3 parties were more... sensible? I've never been, so I don't know, lol, but this is pretty terrifying. I don't think I can look at E3 quite the same, now.
 
Weltall Zero said:
Do you know that for a fact? Have you been raped and killed so you can compare the two?

Perhaps more relevantly, did you know the US has a murder rate of 5 per 10k citizens per year, while it has a police reported rape rate (leaving out unreported rapes) of 27.3 per 10k/year? This means it's literally well over five times as likely to be raped than to be murdered, and you should be therefore five times as worried about that. Well, unless you're a guy, since:


But yeah, keep up this Men's Rights Movement bullshit that a man has the exact same things to fear from another man than a woman does.
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Actually men are far more likely to be killed (homicide) than women, over 3 times as likely. In part I think because society condones murderous violence against men.

But yeah keep this one-sided narrative bullshit that you are the only one who has to fear anything.
 
Volphied said:
It has already made me more paranoid about drinking at events.

Goddamn trash people doing this.
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Just always buy your own drinks, don't leave them unattended and if planning a heavy session to get drunk make sure you are in good company and continue to only buy your own drinks.

If you are with some best friends sure you can let one of them get a round, but make sure they are coming from the bar back to you with drinks and not say buying a round, then leaving it unattended for a quick toilet break.

Any time you are unsure, ditch a drink and buy another. What's some extra money spent at the end of the day for your own peace of mind?
 
Pepboy said:
Actually men are far more likely to be killed (homicide) than women, over 3 times as likely. In part I think because society condones murderous violence against men.

But yeah keep this one-sided narrative bullshit that you are the only one who has to fear anything.
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All murders are pretty much reported. Reported rapes are only the tip of a massive iceberg.
 
Pepboy said:
Actually men are far more likely to be killed (homicide) than women, over 3 times as likely.
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Indeed that is true, which means that out of these 5 murders per 10k, 3-4 are men. Whereas out of these 27 rapes per 10k, 24-25 are women.

Let me put it another way, and please read this carefully. Out of 10k inhabitants, 3-4 males are murdered, 2-3 males are raped, 1-2 females are murdered, and 24-25 females are raped.

Pepboy said:
In part I think because society condones murderous violence against men.
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Sure thing! You don't understand basic statistics, but you out of all people have figured out why they're the way they are. And surprising nobody, your given cause fits your argument like a glove. Seems legit!

Have you yet figured out a reason why over 85% of murders are commited by men that fits your argument, too?

Pepboy said:
But yeah keep this one-sided narrative bullshit that you are the only one who has to fear anything.
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"that you are..."? Wow, you assumed I'm a woman just because I'm stating the obvious statistical facts that they are much more likely to be raped? Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm a white caucasian heterosexual cisgender midde-aged able-bodied male. You don't have to be in a discriminated group to empathize with them.
Also nobody said males don't have to fear anything, just that females have more to fear (as the stats above prove for a fact).
 
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