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Demon Gaze |OT| Even heroes have to pay rent
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How important are "ideal" Race+Class combos in this game? So far I've been making characters based on the portraits I like, so sub-optimal stuff like Elf Fighters (because who can resist that swag suit and giant rose?), etc.
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Stat What the stat level affects Special Notes
STR Physical Attack power Affects power of Gazer Bolt + Gazer Blast
INT Maximum MP
Magical Attack power
MYS Maximum MP Affects success rate of Gazer Heart
Healing Efficiency
Frequency of Mana Heal activation + recov. amt.41 MYS = Recovery every turn of battle (Mana Heal II)
VIT Maximum HP 10-15 VIT = about 20-25 HP gained per level, depending on class.
Physical defense VIT *DOES NOT* affect per-level HP gain.
AGI Battle action speed (turn order) Secondary weapons receive a damage reduction
Dodge chance penalty based on how far below 25 the AGI stat is.
Accuracy Unsure if there is any damage BONUS for having it
Secondary weapon offensive power above this number.
Success chance of Front Guard
LUC Status affliction rate (both applied and received)
Success chance of Killer Edge and Devotion
Success chance of Hide/Undetection (Assassin)
Success chance of Mirage Based on LUC of the Mirage user
Non-Elemental Magic damage (Omega Impact)
Pierce activation chance
(Critical hit chance/damage?) *Unconfirmed*
Ohhhhhh my god thank you.
Basileus777
Member
As far as stats go, I didn't realize how important AGI was for Paladins until later in the game. Front guard chance and dodging are so important, especially once you get astroforce and have your Paladin as the sole frontliner.
KnightHart
Member
Uh... Did I screw up somewhere? I basically pumped VIT into my Paladin (I'm working on STR and AGI now) and I think I got to a point where it just don't let me put more points towards it? I ran into a similar situation with my Healer except for it was MYS instead. Is this supposed to happen?
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
yes it is. each race has a cap on the stats.
KnightHart
Member
Ah okay then. I'll just focus on other stats then since I'm trying to get everyone to level 35+ and with better equips. I already got all 10 Demon Keys and I'm getting ready to fight
Sol.
The strange thing is that after I think... Chronos every boss fight has been really easy, except for the fucking
Shark Lord boss.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Totally different in general with how combat works, id say its actually easier. As you dont have to deal with as many skills and such. Plus slightly harder to screw up your character by putting in skill points wrong, as it should be pretty obvious on what you should be doing with the stats points instead.
that and you dont have to worry about shit like FOEs either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUs2_7SYAI8
*Sweating nervously
Dammit, is it wrong if I focus my Pladin on STR, and Vit, Samurai+Ranger on STR and AGI and Healer on MYS+AGI?
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
It depends on what race you are using.
Human, Ney, and Mygmy (both ranger and healer) respectively.
Probably not just for this game. There are plenty of good Vita games if you're a fan of JRPGs and other niche Japanese games, though.
Yea those are pretty good for stats. I think AGI and LUC are the best for assassin, agi/str/luc for ranger, mys/agi/vit for healer and vit + luc/agi/str for paladin, depending on playstyle really.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Human isnt too bad since its balanced, Samurai works with Ney just its a glass cannon and mygmy works as healer.
Basileus777
Member
It depends on how you are using those characters. There's nothing inherently wrong with those stat choices.
dakkumauji
Member
Nah, shouldn't be too bad.
I been pumping nothing but VIT into my Paladin and once I cap that, I'll probably start throwing into LUK.
I got AGI on my samurai to 25 so I'll probably go with LUK now so I can get more cheap OHKOs.
I do feel like the Ranger is weird since it's a mix of STR/AGI/LUK now and I don't know where to go with that.
I actually been pumping VIT into my Healer for more HP. I haven't really hit a point where I need more MYS thanks to the Healing Staff and spamming Holy Shield, so not sure if I want to throw in more AGI or LUK or go back to MYS for her...
Thought so, i'm just a bit sad that SMT4 hasn't been made available for the European market :-/
I'll wait and see :^)
Basileus777
Member
Why LUK and not AGI? Defending/Front Guard seems to be more effective than devotion once most of your team is in the backrow.
*Wipe sweats
So it's not bad after all. I'm mostly play aggresively, only put the first 4 turns to buff my team before went full-assault against bosses since my demon setup mostly Mars-Chronos-Hermes. Now I think I need to put some VIT on my Healer and Ranger since they usually one-shotted by boss.
So it's not bad after all. I'm mostly play aggresively, only put the first 4 turns to buff my team before went full-assault against bosses since my demon setup mostly Mars-Chronos-Hermes. Now I think I need to put some VIT on my Healer and Ranger since they usually one-shotted by boss.
dakkumauji
Member
Hm, makes sense, I guess I was just too worried over status effects for my Paladin.
Though depends how lucky I am in getting an Astral Force artifact for my Samurai.
You don't need to worry about messing up stats. You get +1 point for every level, and every stat only goes up to +20 of the base at level 1 (e.g. max 33 VIT for Dwarf). Theoretically, you should be able to max almost everything except for 1 stat (INT on Paladin or STR on Healer for example) at level 99.
I'm focusing on VIT/STR for my Paladin too, which allowed me to free up my Samurai slot for a Ranger instead.
I'm focusing on VIT/STR for my Paladin too, which allowed me to free up my Samurai slot for a Ranger instead.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
You really shouldnt worry too much as long as you didnt do something totally stupid like go all in with INT with a Fighter character.
Basileus777
Member
Level 99? Not many will ever get close to that level. I beat the final boss at level 32.
It was more of a FYI thing for those who were worried about screwing up stats permanently.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Truthfully it doesnt really help folks out since as mentioned not many are going to get to that level and you need to warn people dont screw up the choices initially for the most part unless you want to grind mindlessly to make up for it. lol
Having an inefficient character isnt the best way to go about things with the game esp with a certain boss where damage output is a big thing.
Though thankfully you can make up lacking stats with a particular race with the room item + other pieces of equipment worn that have stats enhancing abilities.
But bad point choices are generally something that should be avoided. Though it being obvious what bad choices are dont think anyone would have that problem. At least Id bloody well hope not. lol
I certainly hope that nobody screwed up that much either lol. I was thinking more along the lines of "oh no, I just put a point into AGI instead of VIT for my Paladin by accident."
Huh, there's some conflicting info in the spreadsheet. Under the section of stats it says that vitality doesn't effect per level HP gain whereas in the ideal class builds it claims that you should max out VIT ASAP because it DOES effect per level HP gain.
Anyone know what the real answer is?
Anyone know what the real answer is?
There is a huge difference between the HPs of my party members who have points in VIT and those who don't.
I think they mean that HP increases per level regardless of whether you put in VIT points or not. It's just that more VIT will give you further increases in HP on top of the natural increase upon leveling up.
I'm not entirely sure, but I think it means that you don't suffer a long term penalty for not maxing out your VIT ASAP and if you start putting points into VIT later, the game will "catch you up".
It doesnt matter when you get the VIT it seems, someone over on gamefaqs tested it out ( http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/688105-demon-gaze/69100976?page=1 ) and it seems that the game basically calculates your max hp based on vit and gives you that so whether you have a level 4 character that put points into vit at 1 and another who put it in only at 4 they'll have the same amount of HP. So VIT only affects maximum HP.
dakkumauji
Member
I think it's every battle that are a part of regardless if they are used or even if any enemy is defeated.
I know Hermes ranked up once when the only enemy in a fight ran away before I could do anything which I thought was funny.
Basileus777
Member
The maps are only good for the location, you can sell them.
Bring out Mars and use demon rage (from Gazer level 16) on her. If the formation changes are a problem, remember that you can precast whistle to prevent it. Depending on your party, you might want to start out with a defensive demon like Chronus, buff/debuff up and then switch to Mars when you are ready to attack.
Through Kings Road. You reach it with one of the elevators (the one that also transports you to kings court and eden).
Thanks!