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[yurinka]

Impressive sales for an a $70 remake of an old game nobody bought that is also a launch game for the only platform where it has been releasing. It means that slightly under 14% of the available console owners until know bought it.

 

[Haint]

Lol 1 million on launch day? I doubt Sony even went that high with their optimistic expectations

Soul's games typically sell pretty well, launches are hugely front loaded with your hardest core customers, gaming is bigger than ever including an unprecedented Covid bubble, and it was basically the Mario 64 of the PS5 lineup. I think it's safe to say they had healthy expectations for it.

 

[PropellerEar]

Just like I suspected.
Sony was quiet about the sales of Demon's Souls due to the upcoming acquisition.

Has Sony shared any sales data from Demon's Souls (PS5, 2020)?

In their latest PR, they shared sales data on the following games, I'm looking but can't find anything on Demon's Souls. Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales from Insomniac Games has sold more than 6.5 million copies* since releasing on November 12, 2020 Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales...

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[Ass of Can Whooping]

Soul's games typically sell pretty well, launches are hugely front loaded with your hardest core customers, gaming is bigger than even including an unprecedented Covid bubble, and it was basically the Mario 64 of the PS5 lineup. I think it's safe to say they had healthy expectations for it.

Miles was the Mario 64 of the PS5 lineup. Not Demon's Souls lmao

The only Souls game that was capable of managing those types of numbers was DS3, snd that required a massive install base to achieve

 

[Rea]

It was remake after all that decrease a lot the costs when over 80% of the creation is already created.

What?? 80% ?
All blue point reuse was gameplay mechanics codes and the rest of the everything is redone. Animation, textures, songs, new lighting and shadows system, new weather system, programming for haptics and 3d audio. Enemies designs are also improved and more detailed with additional stuffs. It is a remake, yes, it won't cost the same as brand new IP, yes, but saying 80% of the game is a stretch.

 

[Mess]

Miles was the Mario 64 of the PS5 lineup. Not Demon's Souls lmao

The only Souls game that was capable of managing those types of numbers was DS3.

I'd very much disagree. Souls players will buy a PS5 to play DeS. Miles is both cross gen and would prolly not be a console seller anyway. DeS as a launch game was a strong move by Sony.

 

[Dream-Knife]

It'll sell better once it comes to PC. I believe PC has the hard core Dark Souls community.

 

[Haint]

Miles was the Mario 64 of the PS5 lineup. Not Demon's Souls lmao

The only Souls game that was capable of managing those types of numbers was DS3, snd that required a massive install base to achieve

Miles was a PS4 enhanced 6 hour DLC, not the kind of thing you would expect to sell a $500 console.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I'd very much disagree. Souls players will buy a PS5 to play DeS. Miles is both cross gen and would prolly not be a console seller anyway. DeS as a launch game was a strong move by Sony.

Miles was absolutely a console seller. Hence why it kept jumping up in the UK charts with restocks

 

[skit_data]

Soul's games typically sell pretty well, launches are hugely front loaded with your hardest core customers, gaming is bigger than ever including an unprecedented Covid bubble, and it was basically the Mario 64 of the PS5 lineup. I think it's safe to say they had healthy expectations for it.

I remember reading that they considered all their launch titles selling ”better than expected” in one of their annual reports a few months ago so I doubt sales could be considered disappointing.

DS3 sold about 3 million in 3 months across 3 platforms with a combined install base of at least 100+ million. Demon’s Souls could be considered even more successful given those metrics or at least within expectations.

 

[ethomaz]

What?? 80% ?
All blue point reuse was gameplay mechanics codes and the rest of the everything is redone. Animation, textures, songs, new lighting and shadows system, new weather system, programming for haptics and 3d audio. Enemies designs are also improved and more detailed with additional stuffs. It is a remake, yes, it won't cost the same as brand new IP, yes, but saying 80% of the game is a stretch.

Good part of game development budget is used in the pre-production stage where you create the story, art, character and enemies design, define the mechanics, songs, etc etc etc... in others works it is where you define your project.

What Bluepoint did was to get that project already created and remake/code it in another platform.
From Software did most of the job before 2009.

 

[skit_data]

Miles was a PS4 enhanced 6 hour DLC, not the kind of thing you would expect to sell a $500 console.

And thats the difference between expectation and reality.

It still tops the charts btw, its a big franchise.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Still one of the best games ever created. Started the genre, and brought back the challenge of games we had in the 80's and mid 90's. Before the normie boom.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Miles was a PS4 enhanced 6 hour DLC, not the kind of thing you would expect to sell a $500 console.

Well that's exactly what it did.

Stfu with the DLC tripe already. Come up with something else

 

[Mess]

Good part of game development budget is used in the pre-production stage where you create the story, art, character and enemies design, define the mechanics, songs, etc etc etc... in others works it is where you define your project.

What Bluepoint did was to get that project already created and remake/code it in another platform.
From Software did most of the job before 2009.

Bluepoint had a lot of work on the remake for sure but what had to be done was very well known, easier to deliver on a given scheldule. Again, smart move for a launch title.

 

[eastcoastkody]

for as much as u can't throw a rock online without everyone claiming souls games revolutionized gaming...and how they are better than everything else...im kinda surprised. I thought it would sell more than that. It was basically the only PS5 exclusive game for over half a year

 

[Slicker than your average]

Yeap if we take attach rate only Demon’s Souls (PS5) did better than Bloodborne.

It can surpass Bloodborne in long run sales due new PS5 owners buying it… plus bundles… but it is not set on stones.

The good think is that it did so much better than Demon’s Souls original… a game that a lot of gamers wanted to play but could not buy it (Altus printed only 900k copies in US that make the used copy market to sell it at way over $90 after the word of mouth success).

I’m very happy these that did not have the chance to enjoy the original can play this gem now.

Let's be honest the person I quoted is a massive Xbox troll, so it's not surprisingly he'd post that garbage.

I thought sales of games aren't important metrics to Xbox fans any more? Only important if it's a sony exclusive not selling.

 

[skit_data]

I'd very much disagree. Souls players will buy a PS5 to play DeS. Miles is both cross gen and would prolly not be a console seller anyway. DeS as a launch game was a strong move by Sony.

I bought a PS5 for Demon’s Souls, but I also find it completely resonable that most people bought it for Miles Morales. Its totally fine, not everyone likes these games and the Souls-series fanbase is not the crowd to lean into if you want a big blockbuster(its a hardcore fanbase, but not very big), that role was filled by Miles Morales.

Sony provided several launch titles: the blockbuster family title, the more hardcore niche ”git gud or die tryin” title + for the kids in sackboy and astrobot.

Well played according to me, they offered a relatively wide lineup of games for a variety of customers.

 

[Codes 208]

And thats the difference between expectation and reality.

It still tops the charts btw, its a big franchise.

Its almost like spiderman can sell just on its name or something (Especially after the first insomniac title) crazy concept i know.

whereas DeS had very little marketing appeal and soulsborne has a lways had a cult following with near niche sales. Honestly this is about where i expected tye sales to be around.

 

[ethomaz]

Guys? Really?

Miles Morales vs Demon's Souls?

A franchise over 10 million in sales vs a franchise below 3 million sales?

Except for the meme Miles Morales is not NICHE.

 

[Rea]

Good part of game development budget is used in the pre-production stage where you create the story, art, character and enemies design, define the mechanics, songs, etc etc etc... in others works it is where you define your project.

What Bluepoint did was to get that project already created and remake/code it in another platform.
From Software did most of the job before 2009.

Still that's not 80% lol. It's not the same as simple up_ resolution. They basically have to redo most of the things. Like motion capture, voice acting, remaster the songs. New graphics engine like global illumination, indirect shadows, weather system, high Res textures.
Old game didn't has those features.

 

[Haint]

And thats the difference between expectation and reality.

It still tops the charts btw, its a big franchise.

Well that's exactly what it did.

Stfu with the DLC tripe already. Come up with something else

People bought Spiderman cause it's Spiderman and they had a PS5, they didn't buy a PS5 to play PS4 DLC at a higher framerate.

 

[JaksGhost]

As the sole premiere first party launch title (and for the following 8-10 months), and still one of the only ground up next gen showpieces, I have to imagine Sony was expecting around 1 million units basically on launch day. While I'm sure they're happy they're not bleeding money on an abject bomba, they can't be thrilled with 1.4 million in a year. If it's not well below their expectation, it has to be just barely hitting their most pessimistic worst case forecast.

PUT THE PIPE DOWN!

 

[Amiga]

PlayStation Officially Acquires Bluepoint Games, Next Game Planned to Be an Original, Not a Remake - IGN

Sony has acquired another studio, one it's worked closely with for many years, Bluepoint Games. Bluepoint's president, Marco Thrush, and Head of PlayStation Studios, Hermen Hulst, discuss the acquisition, Bluepoint's future games, and more.

www.ign.com

PS. I still remember some saying the game was not selling even it being in the best sellers in PS chartz lol

Still on premium price, least were $50 promotions. did it ever go under that price.

 

[Codes 208]

Still on premium price, least were $50 promotions. did it ever go under that price.

Its was on sale for $50 here at walmart for awhile (but recently went back up)

 

[Ogbert]

Great game. Loved it.

But a timely reminder of how niche Souls games are. We are enthusiasts and enjoy From games, but it's COD, FIFA and their pals that shift units.

 

[YukiOnna]

Great game. Loved it.

But a timely reminder of how niche Souls games are. We are enthusiasts and enjoy From games, but it's COD, FIFA and their pals that shift units.

I don't know, Sekiro was one of FROM's fastest sellers and hit 5M total in a short period. Dark Souls III reached a lifetime sales of 10M as of 2020 which is 4 years later. I think it's just specifically the Demon's Souls IP.

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

 

[kyliethicc]

More than Demon's Souls PS3 sold, I bet.

 

[[Sigma]]

Those are very good numbers considering the install base and the fact that $70 price tag was maintained for quite a while so they definitely made some money off it.

 

[Punished Miku]

More than Demon's Souls PS3 sold, I bet.

Kind of a pointless comparison imho. That game shocked the world, and Sony themselves by clearing 1 million sales. Atlus published it with basically zero marketing, and it was the first game in the series.

 

[Magnific0giganticus]

A very take if there was one.

1.4 million on 10 million consoles it's over 1/10 players buying it.

Actually, the attach ratio was a lot higher when the game sold the bulk of its sales (first couple of months, as it is for most games).

It may have very well sold over 1 million when there were only still 6 million PS5s sold.

 

[Jack Uzi]

I'm sure he's working on his mental gymnastics on how these numbers prove his point for when he's back.

Lool no doubts there. 1million+ isn’t going to be enough for it’s timeframe or something.

 

[Portugeezer]

Pretty good attach rate for this kind of game (helped by the limited launch games as expected). I know Souls games have gotten more popular over the years but still.

I knew it was possible despite people comparing how Returnal sold and that Sony didn't state the DeS sales; you can't look into those things too much until you get solid numbers.

 

[iHaunter]

Have say that's really impressive.

Wonder if we will see a PS4 version at some point.

At 720p/30 FPS maybe. The textures are 8K.

 

[Fools idol]

as my avatar probably gives away.. I put w lot of hours into it. Most satisfying plat trophy I ever got.

 

[Gameplaylover]

Why are some people surprised? I was the only next game looking launch game and Souls stuff became quite popular. Guess it will sell like 2,5m with some serious price drops and maybe another 2m if they port it to Pc.

 

[Hezekiah]

This game bomba.

Oops, wrong thread .

 

[hroerekr]

Deserves way way more.
Every time I think PS5 is a bad deal, I replay this game and change my mind.

 

[NeptuneCL]

The game is good, no doubt about it, but BP could do something else, like add a new map, a new archstone (the broke one actually) to bring even more players to it.

Missed chance for me.

 

[ripeavocado]

Less than I would have expected given the universal praise for the series. I guess this is why we're going to see cross-gen for a while.

it's a remake not a new game and the souls series is not GTA.

 

[dd492941]

Beating a dead horse I feel but when will bluepoint get to remaster or remake bloodborne. The best game in the souls genre.

 

[MrS]

Phenomenal game and still the best PS5 game imho. Deserves to sell 20m copies.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

1.4x $70 is right around 100 million so I suspect that more than paid for the costs.

I know there is lots more to it than that but still probably very successful.

1.4 million includes discount sales too. That game dropped in price pretty quickly if I recall correctly.

Feels like treading water IF that.

 

[Ceadeus]

Does it mean Sony might give Bluepoint the chance to develop a demon's souls 2?

 

[skit_data]

1.4 million includes discount sales too. That game dropped in price pretty quickly if I recall correctly.

Feels like treading water IF that.

It sure hasn’t dropped in price on PSN. I think I saw a 10% discount once during summer but that’s about it. It might be more discounted at retail though.

 

[arvfab]

if I recall correctly

You don't...

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

You don't...

$25 off from Amazon 10 months after release.
30% off PSN 7 months after release.

Nintendo evergreen this is not.

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PSN Summer Sale 2021 Discounts 13 Sentinels, Demon's Souls, and Persona 5 Royal

Sony kicked off the PSN Summer Sale 2021 with a range of deals on more than a thousand games across PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 5 consoles.

www.google.com

 

[skit_data]

$25 off from Amazon 10 months after release.
30% off PSN 7 months after release.

Nintendo evergreen this is not.

Redirect Notice

PSN Summer Sale 2021 Discounts 13 Sentinels, Demon's Souls, and Persona 5 Royal

Sony kicked off the PSN Summer Sale 2021 with a range of deals on more than a thousand games across PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 5 consoles.

www.google.com

Alright it was actually discounted at 30% but I wouldn’t call it ”dropping in price pretty quickly”, seems pretty normal for a 7 month old game at PSN.

Nintendo is something else entirely, they announce N64 controllers at twice the original price 25 years later for pete’s sake!

 

[El Pistolero]

Good numbers. Absolutely deserved. If only From Software were as technically gifted as BP coders...