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[water_wendi]

For one, a lot of amazing music came out of it.
Most importantly, it made us as a nation realize that extended involvement in a foreign country's eternal affairs with no strategy for actually winning the war should and would never be repeated again.

Great music and a generation learned the horrors of war? While those indeed Pros there is too much in the Con column for me to say that the Vietnam War was a good decision.

Btw, I wonder if you have any comments about the rest of that post?

Theres really not much to comment on. Usually when hardcore right wingers lecture me about the "hidden" history of the United States its usually misconstrued. A recent example of this a regular customer of mine that tried to enlighten me about how President Obama was not the first black Potus. As much as i wanted to point out that the presidents before Washington were nothing more than an unelected position of basically a secretary that basically took care of the mail with no actual power i held my tongue just to get him out the door. Liberal views of history tend to amplify the bad things but this to me is not as dangerous as omitting or rewriting to preserve a "patriotic" view.

 

[adamsappel]

i believe she is referring to the amount of casualties in the Civil War.

I briefly wondered if she meant "at great sacrifice" financially. That's a lot of money slave owners were voluntarily giving up!

 

[Piano]

I was schooled in NY and FL and the FL US history texts never mentioned slavery or internment camps

I was in high school in Florida 04-08 and we definitely learned about both of those. Even read Howard Zinn's book for my AP class.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

Bulbo begging for another avatar quote, eh?

I was schooled in NY and FL and the FL US history texts never mentioned slavery or internment camps

Fucking wow.

That sounds like the uninformed comment of someone who has read some patriotic history books.

Is communist a catch all phrase for everything negative in the U.S.?

"I sure ate a communist burger at Burger King today, did not even clap once."

To be fair, he's not wrong. Historical revisionism and textbook bias and censorship is what you expect from North Korea, not the US. Ironically, those most interested in pursuing this revisionist agenda are generally the quickest to hate the "commies", too...

 

[Valhelm]

I was schooled in NY and FL and the FL US history texts never mentioned slavery or internment camps

Holy fucking shit. When did you grow up? Where in those states?

I grew up in Florida, and we learned about the horrors of slavery at length from seventh grade onward. When I was 12, we got a pretty harrowing (and probably age-inappropriate) presentation about how incredibly common the rape of slave women was, and how most African Americans have significant European ancestry because of this.

 

[Eye for an Eye]

I was schooled in NY and FL and the FL US history texts never mentioned slavery or internment camps

I was in FL schools for high school from 98-02, although my schooling got a little screwed up. So it might not be accurate to some one who stayed in one high school. I was also not gifted and took the normal classes.
I never learned of internment camps in grade school. I never even knew it existed until a few years ago in a college course and we spent quite a bit of time on it. I'm in school in California.

I will say that the curriculum seemed more geared towards what happened in Europe during WWII than what was happening on the west coast and with the Asian countries. Although I don't know many people outside of South Florida that seems to know about the Cuban Missile Crisis.

 

[Kelthink]

To be fair, he's not wrong. Historical revisionism and textbook bias and censorship is what you expect from North Korea, not the US. Ironically, those most interested in pursuing this revisionist agenda are generally the quickest to hate the "commies", too...

Then it's totalitarian, not neccesarily communism. The kid saying that quote would probably know if he were taught correctly.

 

[wsippel]

To be fair, he's not wrong. Historical revisionism and textbook bias and censorship is what you expect from North Korea, not the US. Ironically, those most interested in pursuing this revisionist agenda are generally the quickest to hate the "commies", too...

It also happened a lot in the US, especially during WW2. Renaming "Indo-Germanic" to "Indo-European" for example, because English is an Indo-Germanic language and they obviously couldn't have that.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

Then it's totalitarian, not neccesarily communism. The kid saying that quote would probably know if he were taught correctly.

He's a kid, cut him some slack. Would you have nitpicked as much if he had said "I think that's pretty fascist" instead?