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[Aurongel]

Does DepressionGAF have any recommendations on how to fall asleep and STAY asleep for more than like 4 hours? Every night for the past month I've been plagued by the same horrible nightmares/flashbacks and I'd just like to actually get more than 4-6 hours of sleep on at least the weekends.

Guilt sucks.

 

[Piano]

I would like to say i go through depression myself, granted take this with a grain of salt but i like mushrooms and think weed and mushing on a regular basis can help get through tough times.
This man is on to something.^^

If mushrooms and weed help you, you go through 'down periods' or mild depression, not moderate/severe depression. Depression is a complete mental and physical state of being where most or all activities - including doing drugs - lose their value and meaning and motivation and the will to continue evaporate.

When I was mildly depressed, smoking weed was a fun escape. I wasn't very social, but I was 'okay' playing video games and continuing to exist.

When I was very depressed there was no point to smoking weed. There was no point to leaving my bed. My entire life became an existential crisis and exercise in futility. I could not escape the brutal reality that my every activity was completely meaningless and, in that fog, it felt as if it would never change.

Mild depression is normal. Everyone will go through up periods and down periods, generally in response to life events. Struggling with existential horror every second of every day, however, is not.

Not attacking you. Just trying to educate - emotion is so hard to discuss since all of us only know our own experience. I still can't totally understand severe, unending depression since I generally have it in short episodes.

 

[Piano]

Does DepressionGAF have any recommendations on how to fall asleep and STAY asleep for more than like 4 hours? Every night for the past month I've been plagued by the same horrible nightmares/flashbacks and I'd just like to actually get more than 4-6 hours of sleep on at least the weekends.

Guilt sucks.

Outside of prescription drugs or intensive therapy to breach what's haunting you? Not sure. Meditation/relaxation before bed time could help.

 

[Misterinenja]

Does DepressionGAF have any recommendations on how to fall asleep and STAY asleep for more than like 4 hours? Every night for the past month I've been plagued by the same horrible nightmares/flashbacks and I'd just like to actually get more than 4-6 hours of sleep on at least the weekends.

Guilt sucks.

Try listening to some music. Focus on its beat and/or flow and let your thoughts wander freely. Don't get stuck on those negative thought patterns.

Additionally look into meditation. I've been thinking about it lately.

When I was very depressed there was no point to smoking weed. There was no point to leaving my bed. My entire life became an existential crisis and exercise in futility. I could not escape the brutal reality that my every activity was completely meaningless and, in that fog, it felt as if it would never change.

Mild depression is normal. Everyone will go through up periods and down periods, generally in response to life events. Struggling with existential horror every second of every day, however, is not.

My depression made a glorious comeback from my teenage years this fall. I feel the same way. Now that it has worsened to that point there just isn't point doing any drugs at the moment.

Though drinking with my friends every weekend is actually only thing I'm looking forward to at the moment so I'm not "clear headed" all the time.

 

[victreeb3l]

Does DepressionGAF have any recommendations on how to fall asleep and STAY asleep for more than like 4 hours? Every night for the past month I've been plagued by the same horrible nightmares/flashbacks and I'd just like to actually get more than 4-6 hours of sleep on at least the weekends.

Guilt sucks.

ive had this problem forever. best advice i can give you is to be active during the day and eating healthy, so your body gets tired and you naturally fall asleep. if you lie down and cant fall asleep for a while, get up and go to another room and read or something. i used to get so frustrated about not being able to fall asleep while in bed and i realized my anger kept me awake even longer.

if youre really stressed about something, maybe try some relaxation techniques like meditation.

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

Does DepressionGAF have any recommendations on how to fall asleep and STAY asleep for more than like 4 hours? Every night for the past month I've been plagued by the same horrible nightmares/flashbacks and I'd just like to actually get more than 4-6 hours of sleep on at least the weekends.

Guilt sucks.

Therapy and running.

 

[J Tourettes]

Does DepressionGAF have any recommendations on how to fall asleep and STAY asleep for more than like 4 hours? Every night for the past month I've been plagued by the same horrible nightmares/flashbacks and I'd just like to actually get more than 4-6 hours of sleep on at least the weekends.

Guilt sucks.

Nope, insomniac since 13 or 14 (33 now)

 

[Youta Mottenai]

I'm curious as to whether or not one can really "give up" on something like this. I mean, perhaps you aren't actively pursuing a relationship with another person, but if your ideal significant other were to bump into you under ideal conditions, would you turn him/her down wholeheartedly because you've "given up"?

If, by ideal conditions, you mean 'things are working great in the various aspects of one's life', obviously no.
But, if it happened now, and only the relationship part is the ideal, I would, unfortunately, turn her down, not because I gave up, but because there are issues that I think must be fixed first.

Things like this aren't a binary; it's just a matter of shifting expectations. Even if you haven't gotten laid by the end of your 20's, it does not mean it's never going to happen. Just because you haven't found anyone you can actually admit to having "loved" by the end of your 20's or even 30's doesn't mean its never going to happen. The serendipitous nature of such things, at least from what I've observed, is what makes them so interesting and exciting.

Not to be rude, but at some moment you can't just shift expectations anymore because your self-steem is taking hits in the process. It's becomes a vicious circle that drags you down.

Coincidentally, I'm reading a book right now on "mood therapy" written by a therapist who claims to hear things like this on a weekly basis. People who claim to be "unhelpable" are as common as those who actively seek "help" in dealing with their issues, yet both are treatable. It's merely a matter of shifting perspectives and understanding the negative thoughts within yourself that are helping to fuel such a negative self-outlook.

As I said before, I'll be satisfied if therapy+medication works enough to make me functional. Point is, right now, I'm just too tired and too disappointed with myself to set any expectation beyond that.

 

[CielTynave]

anyone else dead inside

I wish I was. Having emotions sucks.

 

[Uchip]

This post is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever seen. You might as well have typed "SOMEONE HELP ME" in size 72 font.

Do whatever you want, but don't lie to yourself.

and you might as well have typed "PAY ATTENTION TO ME" in size 72 font
the extensive use of hyperbole is quite charmingly over the top

Coincidentally, I'm reading a book right now on "mood therapy" written by a therapist who claims to hear things like this on a weekly basis. People who claim to be "unhelpable" are as common as those who actively seek "help" in dealing with their issues, yet both are treatable. It's merely a matter of shifting perspectives and understanding the negative thoughts within yourself that are helping to fuel such a negative self-outlook.

I understand this, but its one thing to be depressed, another to have to deal with psychosis, migraines, debt, family expectations, having your resume filled with years of being sick, having no friends that understand it, having nowhere to live, having the social stigma of multiple mental illnesses and being treated like garbage because of it.
The depression itself isn't uplifted by healthy eating or exercise, and even under a high dose of antidepressants its extremely hard to keep it together.

 

[TheExplodingHead]

As a cliffnote, one of the most disgusting issues in especially the psychiatric practice is the tendency to both push samples and ignore the drugs that do work for depression. If we're just discussing the patients with severe (often life long) depression a very good choice is benzodiazepine's as well as sedative hypnotics in low doses. The issue is of course tolerance and dependancy, tolerance can be managed with immediate assessment and switch to an alternate benzo when it happens. The real issue for the ethical standard is dependency and a huge incentive for both manufactuers and physicians to prescribe these antidepressants/antipsychotics with much lower success rates in managing depression/anxiety both acutely and chronically. The fact is, benzo's and sedative hypnotics work for depression and anxiety, their relatively inexpensive and they have less dangerous short and long term effects.

So my recommendation is if you're seeking pharmco's for depression, do not except drugs that barely work and cause undesired effects (especially anti psychotics which can cripple you mentally and physically long term). Attempt to get prescribed benzo's (Xanax, Antivan, Klonopin) or a lower dose of sedative hypnotic (Ambien, Lunesta). Dependeny is a much lower priority than a lifetime of depression and a handful of antidepressants/anti-psychotics that fail to work or work poorly, it's also much more expensive.

 

[Gregorn]

I just wanted to say I can't remember what it's like to feel sad. I honestly haven't cried proper tears of sadness since I moved from my hometown 6 years ago, everything else has all been happy.

Hopefully this will make you sad guys remember that the world isn't so bad and people can be happy.

 

[Uchip]

especially anti psychotics which can cripple you mentally and physically long term

I only spent a year on risperidone and the side effects were(are) far more noticeable than any antidepressant, by a long shot.

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

and you might as well have typed "PAY ATTENTION TO ME" in size 72 font
the extensive use of hyperbole is quite charmingly over the top

I'm posting on GAF with an avatar of myself making a stupid face -- your first point is a given. The hyperbole is just a habit.

But I stand by what I said. I suppose that, as a depressed piece of shit, my advice on life isn't very reputable, but I really believe that being honest with yourself is important. And by "being honest" I don't mean "be as pessimistic as humanly possible" as some people do.

 

[Conciliator]

I had a grand mal seizure as a result of withdrawal from less than two months of daily benzo use. Just sayin'. Or so the doctors told me, I have no recollection of it other than waking up with my tongue half chewed off.

EDIT: Just to be clear, that's half chewed off, not chewed half off...I still have all my tongue. It might be a slightly different shape.

MOAR EDIT: Also I'm not opposed to medication for depression or in general, so don't pull that on me, I am opposed to benzos as a permanent/long-term solution though.

 

[TheExplodingHead]

I only spent a year on risperidone and the side effects were(are) far more noticeable than any antidepressant, by a long shot.

Yeah, that's not to say that the newer "atypical" anti-psychotics (Risperidone, Zyprexa, Seroquel, etc) don't/can't work, they just don't work for as many people as benzo's can. They also carry much worse side effects and potentially life threatening problems. So rather than starting with a drug that is less dangerous and more likely to work first, the mental health establishment pretty much does the opposite, primarily for money and market reasons.

 

[Uchip]

I'm posting on GAF with an avatar of myself making a stupid face -- your first point is a given. The hyperbole is just a habit.

But I stand by what I said. I suppose that, as a depressed piece of shit, my advice on life isn't very reputable, but I really believe that being honest with yourself is important. And by "being honest" I don't mean "be as pessimistic as humanly possible" as some people do.

I can tell you that im honestly not worth people wasting their efforts on
Of course people can be helped, its just a waste of resources to help someone that has decided that life is a disgusting meaningless affair.

 

[ahoyhoy]

I understand this, but its one thing to be depressed, another to have to deal with psychosis, migraines, debt, family expectations, having your resume filled with years of being sick, having no friends that understand it, having nowhere to live, having the social stigma of multiple mental illnesses and being treated like garbage because of it.
The depression itself isn't uplifted by healthy eating or exercise, and even under a high dose of antidepressants its extremely hard to keep it together.

You sound a lot like my brother, actually, and while I can't fully understand the extent of his psychosis/neuroticism, I can understand how placing extra emphasis on the negative aspects of the self can feed on itself in an endless cycle. For him, it's a nasty stuttering problem and OCD that leads to stress, anxiety, depression, and eventually exacerbates his stuttering/OCD etc. For me, my low self-esteem and introversion feeds my anxiety, which in turn leaves me depressed and further deflates my self-esteem and thoughts of severe inadequacy.

I can't remove all the negative aspects of your life in terms of external factors, but perhaps you can take some solace in knowing that you're in a situation that is more common than you think. There is unlikely to be a solution in the near future that will remove all your problems, but there are steps that can be taken to at the very least alleviate the thoughts that help feed the endless negativity cycle.

I can tell you that im honestly not worth people wasting their efforts on
Of course people can be helped, its just a waste of resources to help someone that has decided that life is a disgusting meaningless affair.

I know this isn't what you want to hear, as it would require you to look inwardly, but... I don't believe you actually believe that. Even by posting in some semi-anonymous online forum, you have proved that your nihilism has not reached a plateau from which there is no return. You clearly have some connection with other humans on some level, superficial as you may believe, that can always be built upon to form something greater.

 

[TheExplodingHead]

I had a grand mal seizure as a result of withdrawal from less than two months of daily benzo use. Just sayin'. Or so the doctors told me, I have no recollection of it other than waking up with my tongue half chewed off.

EDIT: Just to be clear, that's half chewed off, not chewed half off...I still have all my tongue. It might be a slightly different shape.

MOAR EDIT: Also I'm not opposed to medication for depression or in general, so don't pull that on me, I am opposed to benzos as a permanent/long-term solution though.

You should check out some of the withdrawl and long term effects of most antidepressants/antipsychotics, particularly tardive dyskinesia, mortality rate and diabetes. I never said there weren't risks, as there are with any medication, it's just that with judicious use of benzo's as opposed to alternatives the effects are far predictable and less life threatening across the board.

 

[faceless007]

I just wanted to say I can't remember what it's like to feel sad. I honestly haven't cried proper tears of sadness since I moved from my hometown 6 years ago, everything else has all been happy.

Hopefully this will make you sad guys remember that the world isn't so bad and people can be happy.

For a second I thought you were describing the place I'm in, as the first part describes me to a T, I haven't felt sad for years. Problem is I also haven't felt happy. Haven't felt anything really. No, I'm not on anything.

 

[Uchip]

You sound a lot like my brother, actually, and while I can't fully understand the extent of his psychosis/neuroticism, I can understand how placing extra emphasis on the negative aspects of the self can feed on itself in an endless cycle. For him, it's a nasty stuttering problem and OCD that leads to stress, anxiety, depression, and eventually exacerbates his stuttering/OCD etc. For me, my low self-esteem and introversion feeds my anxiety, which in turn leaves me depressed and further deflates my self-esteem and thoughts of severe inadequacy.

I can't remove all the negative aspects of your life in terms of external factors, but perhaps you can take some solace in knowing that you're in a situation that is more common than you think. There is unlikely to be a solution in the near future that will remove all your problems, but there are steps that can be taken to at the very least alleviate the thoughts that help feed the endless negativity cycle.

I know its common
Ive spend time in a support group with other "psychosis patients"
and its a harrowing experience.

Everything looks fragmented to me, light bends in strange ways, and hallucinations and delusions are not uncommon. Spent years going through the health care system, goign to hospitals getting scans and tests, and basically they put it down to "your brain is fucked"

The worst possible thing you can do for people in a situation of mental distress, is to tell them that there are worse people out there (ie. at least you dont have terminal cancer!). Guilt trips are a logical fallacy and are generally only used by the insensitive or ignorant. people.

I know this isn't what you want to hear, as it would require you to look inwardly, but... I don't believe you actually believe that. Even by posting in some semi-anonymous online forum, you have proved that your nihilism has not reached a plateau from which there is no return. You clearly have some connection with other humans on some level, superficial as you may believe, that can always be built upon to form something greater.

Existential Nihilism doesn't mean that you have earthly habits that you get rid of for the sake of proving a point.

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

I can tell you that im honestly not worth people wasting their efforts on
Of course people can be helped, its just a waste of resources to help someone that has decided that life is a disgusting meaningless affair.

Meh. We all make stupid decisions.

 

[Uchip]

Meh. We all make stupid decisions.

I cannot rationalize a purpose outside of procreation (it seems like an extension of every kind of cell division), and i want none of that
Instead of calling it stupid it would be nice if you actually had some input

 

[Vicetrailia]

Im pretty depressed. Money is super tied up...I make widled down my spending to save 36 bucks a month...which gets absorbed into my impossibly low but mandatory 200 per month food/misc spending budget (from car repairs to toothbrush).

I think what's really dragging down is that for each liability gone, another more difficult one is there to take it's place. I feel so alone and fucked.

 

[Aurongel]

Turns out one of my few close friends is frustrated and mad at me because they think I haven't been feeling better no matter what they do to try and help. Of course, this in turn makes me feel worse about myself and therefore I become more down as a result. This is starting to turn into a vicious circle for me.

My question is:
Should I just lie to this person and tell them I'm actually happy even though I don't feel like it?

I don't think it's a terrible idea, maybe if I fake happiness for a little while then I'll eventually feel better on my own. Any input would be appreciated.

 

[Uchip]

Turns out one of my few close friends is frustrated and mad at me because they think I haven't been feeling better no matter what they do to try and help. Of course, this in turn makes me feel worse about myself and therefore I become more down as a result. This is starting to turn into a vicious circle for me.

My question is:
Should I just lie to this person and tell them I'm actually happy even though I don't feel like it?

I don't think it's a terrible idea, maybe if I fake happiness for a little while then I'll eventually feel better on my own. Any input would be appreciated.

I have lost many friends and potential girlfriends by revelation of depressive tendencies
Its usually better for both parties if you put on a brave face

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

I cannot rationalize a purpose outside of procreation, and i want none of that
Instead of calling it stupid it would be nice if you actually had some input

It's a stupid decision because it has no upside.

Turns out one of my few close friends is frustrated and mad at me because they think I haven't been feeling better no matter what they do to try and help. Of course, this in turn makes me feel worse about myself and therefore I become more down as a result. This is starting to turn into a vicious circle for me.

My question is:
Should I just lie to this person and tell them I'm actually happy even though I don't feel like it?

I don't think it's a terrible idea, maybe if I fake happiness for a little while then I'll eventually feel better on my own. Any input would be appreciated.

I've got a better idea: feel better. Then you can have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Uchip]

It's a stupid decision because it has no upside.

yes, but the upside is only the appearance of norepenephrine and tweaks to the reward pathways in your brain which are only there to make you better at survival and a better parent, so you can continue to spawn more people.

 

[~Kinggi~]

yes, but the upside is only the appearance of norepenephrine and tweaks to the reward pathways in your brain which are only there to make you better at survival and a better parent, so you can continue to spawn more people.

Despite the fact life is ultimately meaningless, everyone's goal is to basically be happy accepting that. Filling life with enough distractions to not be aware of the pointlessness is leading an amazing life. Its a worthwhile goal. Analyzing that and thinking 'gee thats all there is to it so i want no part in that' is missing the point. Additionally people find more meaning from life when they realize they can have a positive impact on others, making others happy and keep them from questioning what everything means.

Now i'm a depressed piece of shit with severe social anxiety and hermit-itis but i can still acknowledge where i want to be.

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

yes, but the upside is only the appearance of norepenephrine and tweaks to the reward pathways in your brain which are only there to make you better at survival and a better parent, so you can continue to spawn more people.

The euphoria of orgasm only exists to encourage humans to mate, but still we fap and have protected sex. Just because nature's assigned us a certain purpose doesn't mean that we have to either abide by it or throw in the towel.

 

[Uchip]

The euphoria of orgasm only exists to encourage humans to mate, but still we fap and have protected sex. Just because nature's assigned us a certain purpose doesn't mean that we have to either abide by it or throw in the towel.

experimentation and deviation are what got us so far ahead of the other species on this planet, and having protected sex is mainly used BEFORE you are ready to successfully raise a child. The pleasure from casual sex is also the same type of stimulus that drives people forward in the same way that other pleasure does. It doesn't mean we have more purpose, it just means we're fucking strange.

 

[Fantasmo]

One thing that is helping me towards feeling better and away from the ups and downs is asking how instead of why.

Why (is this happening) kept me stuck for 5 years.
How (can I do this better) is getting me unstuck.

Perhaps the most important part though is "just do it even if I suck horribly" after I figure out how.

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

experimentation and deviation are what got us so far ahead of the other species on this planet, and having protected sex is mainly used BEFORE you are ready to successfully raise a child. The pleasure from casual sex is also the same type of stimulus that drives people forward in the same way that other pleasure does. It doesn't mean we have more purpose, it just means we're fucking strange.

It drives people forward, but not necessarily toward procreation. What about gay people? What about men who get vasectomies and women who get their tubes tied?

My point is that just because our bodies' reward systems are aimed at propagating the human race does not mean that we can't use them for our own gain.

It's like a Lego kit. Yeah, you're supposed to build the UFO on the box, but if you don't like UFOs you don't have to throw the kit away. You can build a dinosaur or a house or whatever the fuck you want to build.

 

[Uchip]

My point is that just because our bodies' reward systems are aimed at propagating the human race does not mean that we can't use them for our own gain.

there are outliers in every sample

 

[Kevtones]

I take a Zoloft substitute and recently got hold of Ritalin... It's incredible.

 

[Fantasmo]

I take a Zoloft substitute and recently got hold of Ritalin... It's incredible.

Beware of the crash, its ugly. I hear that's what a cocaine crash is like.

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

there are outliers in every sample

Can you elaborate?

 

[Uchip]

Can you elaborate?

Being unable to reproduce would make you different, but ultimately part of the same data.
Gay couples tend to adopt children, and people that cut off their reproductive systems generally already have children, whether its that they would be unable to support another child, or that its in the best interest for their state of mind is variable.

Even people that appear altruistic, or promoting scientific integrity will be contributing towards a suitable life sustaining environment, or contrarily that they are doing it because they want to feel good.

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

Being unable to reproduce would make you different, but ultimately part of the same data.
Gay couples tend to adopt children, and people that cut off their reproductive systems generally already have children, whether its that they would be unable to support another child, or that its in the best interest for their state of mind is variable.

Even people that appear altruistic, or promoting scientific integrity will be contributing towards a suitable life sustaining environment, or contrarily that they are doing it because they want to feel good.

My aunt got her tubes tied without having any children, and she has no interest in ever adopting any. Obviously I can't read her mind, but she lives an otherwise normal life and seems happy enough.

And why should altruism be expected of anyone? Isn't it logical that good deeds should have good rewards?

 

[Uchip]

And why should altruism be expected of anyone?

it shouldn't because its a lie

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

it shouldn't because its a lie

So is Santa Claus. I don't see the big deal.

 

[Uchip]

So is Santa Claus. I don't see the big deal.

there is no big deal

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

there is no big deal

Then why'd you mention it?

 

[Kuraudo]

Hey, GAF.

Been crashing since about October depression and social anxiety wise. Met a girl in November and things got a little better before she inadvertently made stuff a lot worse and I kind of sank to a new low.

Getting help now. On Citalopram at the moment and it seems to be helping, although the side effects are pretty rubbish. Headaches and nervousness were really bad at first, although they've subsided a good deal. Having a bit of difficulty sleeping and really tired and appetite is up and down (mostly down, which as I'd recently already lost weight is a bit worrying - weighing below ten stone at moment). Also developing a bit of a sexual dysfunction with it - no problems obtaining an erection but I'll be damned if I can actually cum. So far that's the only thing that doesn't seem to be passing though.

Other than that though, doing okay. Pretty happy with myself as a person, which is a nice change. I'm not having to run away from my desk to break into hysterics in the bathroom at any rate, at least not until wednesday, but that should be understandable and I'm dealing with that to.


So yeah, girl I met in November suffers too. She hurt me pretty bad and I kind of cut off contact with her in self-defense, before slowly letting her back into my life, but not entirely. I guess I was keeping a polite friendship, speaking to her when she spoke to me and not actively building a friendship.

That was until a couple of weeks ago when she admitted to me that she'd been cutting herself. After a few days wrestling with it I figured I needed to be in her life, to feel like I was doing everything I could for her, rather that than finding out someday that she'd hurt herself and I hadn't been there.

That seemed to be working out until Monday night when she tried to OD on sleeping tablets.

Tuesday was an interesting day emotionally. Spent a large part of it in a rage I've never really felt before, mostly directed at a friend who suggested this was good timing (another guy who she had been seeing and who I think's triggered her latest crash is out the the country). Then that evening she asked me to take her to dinner, which I couldn't really refuse. Pretty rubbish saying goodbye to someone after a date and you're not sure if you'll see them alive again.

Which is what kind of triggered me breaking down in work on wednesday, after her not responding to a text. Kind of found myself wondering if she was still alive and found I couldn't cope. Boss had to get me off the phones and introduced me to their company's counselling service, which helped put things into perspective - helped me deal with the fact that while I feel kind of powerless to save her that she is getting the help she needs now.

The screwed up thing is I'm seriously falling for this girl who hates life so much she wants to die. I think I'm dealing with that too though.


Was really sceptical about the drugs and I used to go off them after a few days when the side effects kicked in, but sticking to them seems to be helping right now.

 

[Winnie the Pimp]

this might sound retarded to you but it is a serious question:

how is your digestion?

I used to be depressed for a long time and only after years did i figure out that food intolerances can actually inhibit a certain hormone in your organism which causes depression in the end!

After i took care of this and watch what i am eating (it is restrictive but i don't care) i felt better and better within DAYS of diet change and that "depression" is now all but gone!

anyway, just a heads-up, it might be the reason or not but it's worth looking into imo before taking tons of pills that might never cure you!

 

[CrocMother]

Is anybody bipolar, takes medication and is employed in a field that requires creativity (such as writing or music?)

This is my half-assed attempt at looking into this. As much as the ups and downs fuck with my life it's not worth losing what I truly love.

 

[Kuraudo]

this might sound retarded to you but it is a serious question:

how is your digestion?

I used to be depressed for a long time and only after years did i figure out that food intolerances can actually inhibit a certain hormone in your organism which causes depression in the end!

After i took care of this and watch what i am eating (it is restrictive but i don't care) i felt better and better within DAYS of diet change and that "depression" is now all but gone!

anyway, just a heads-up, it might be the reason or not but it's worth looking into imo before taking tons of pills that might never cure you!

My digestion is really bad. Have IBS which after tests my doctor seems to think is purely related to anxiety/depression. Seen dieticians etc and they all agree my diet is reasonably good. Eat plain, non-volatile foods etc and still poor digestion. It's a lot worse when I'm stressed etc so I think the doctor's probably right that it is purely anxiety related.

 

[Piano]

this might sound retarded to you but it is a serious question:

how is your digestion?

I used to be depressed for a long time and only after years did i figure out that food intolerances can actually inhibit a certain hormone in your organism which causes depression in the end!

After i took care of this and watch what i am eating (it is restrictive but i don't care) i felt better and better within DAYS of diet change and that "depression" is now all but gone!

anyway, just a heads-up, it might be the reason or not but it's worth looking into imo before taking tons of pills that might never cure you!

Dietary changes can often help with mild cases of depression (which it sounds like you had). Severe depression is mostly unreachable by lifestyle changes.

 

[Piano]

My digestion is really bad. Have IBS which after tests my doctor seems to think is purely related to anxiety/depression. Seen dieticians etc and they all agree my diet is reasonably good. Eat plain, non-volatile foods etc and still poor digestion. It's a lot worse when I'm stressed etc so I think the doctor's probably right that it is purely anxiety related.

It's probably anxiety related. I've had the same problems. Wouldn't believe they were anxiety related for a while but they only finally (mostly) went away when I got on some meds that wiped out most of my anxiety.

 

[Winnie the Pimp]

while it may be true that in really severe cases of clinical depression, it is not enough to change your diet, i honestly do NOT believe in the existence of IBS, i have been told by just about 5 different gastro-enterologists i had IBS for YEARS, i felt super miserable, partly because of my digestive problems and partly because of the depression (in my case caused by the intolerances) when i finally figured out what i had... after a serious diet change and a couple weeks of patience, the "IBS" symptoms were all gone and the depressive state i was in "magically" went away, i felt super energized and glad... it's been 2 years now and while i have my ups and downs, it's been a new life for me and a second chance after i practically gave up back then!

I still recommend you look into this matter first before taking heavy medication, i know people who went that route and instead of getting better, all it did is they are now slighlty less depressed AND hopelessly addicted to their medication. When they forget to take it just one day, they nearly collapse mentally, it's sad to see em like that

then again, my gf took anti depressives for about 6 months in small doses and it helped her overcome her problems, so there is a place for em, just be careful and always question what docs tell you and do some research yourself!

*end rant*