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How feasible is it for someone to just move across the country?

I'm 22 and I'll be graduating in May with at least $31k in debt. Could be more, I hate looking. I'm in Michigan, but I really feel like California is where I want to be. The tech industry is exciting, the weather is better than MI, and more liberal marijuana laws to boot.

The hardest thing would be moving from my family. Well that and the thousands in debt. It sucks feeling stuck.
 
What can be done about a total lack of sex drive? This may be lengthy, so please bear with me.

I had to move back home after college graduation due to a lack of jobs in the college town I was currently living. This was absolutely devastating for me socially. I went from living in a town surrounded by peers with similar interests to being somewhat of an oddity in my hometown because of my age. I am surrounded by geriatrics, conservatives, and there are no people here my age. I am 28.

You know what? I am pretty good looking, but I can do fuck all about my dating situation at the moment. I've tried online dating. I've tried asking girls out. Nothing. The most common response I receive is that they're already dating someone. I am not a fool. That may the case some of the times, of even a majority of the times, but sometimes convenient excuses are also lies. So I've been without female companionship for three years and this does not look to change. I could lower my standards. I already have. But if I scrape the bottom of the barrel any more I'll be digging myself to China. In short, this has utterly destroyed my sex drive. I've grown so accustom to be single that I'm getting eerily comfortable with it. This may have severely hindered me in the long term, but what's a guy to do?

im in a similar situation, only that when they come to me on a silver platter im still disinterested and I feel doomed to never be able to relate to anyone.
Doesnt help that when you've been isolated for so many years, that everyone your own age looks old and you don't find them attractive.
Everything is working against me to put me in my place as being solitary.
 
Here's another one.

Does anyone else get depression triggered through popular media (movies, tv and books)? I've often found that, through watching or reading certain situations, most typically those involving descriptions of youth, relationships and long-lasting friendships to be those which cause an almost immediate surge in depression.

I've actually found books to be the worst culprit, because of all the written details and descriptions used to illustrate these events, especially when they get into talking about the wonders of relationships and bonds that are forged between individuals and the happiness that is shared.

It really sucks. I wish it didn't happen, but I've caught it happening almost near constantly for me to ignore it.

I know what you mean, I've been torturing myself watching this Korean Drama on a gay couple and seeing them bond and unite against adversity makes me realize i won't find someone like that in my life, hell i never been on a date before. Movies about weddings and long lasting lovers makes me depressed as well.

I'm supposed to go to a halloween party in salem, ma tonight but i have been pushing off buying a costume and now i just feel too depressed to go. i am thinking about texting my friend and tell him i am not going, even though i already paid 70 bucks for the hotel and that i really like him. I feel like he only sees me as a friend.


How feasible is it for someone to just move across the country?

I'm 22 and I'll be graduating in May with at least $31k in debt. Could be more, I hate looking. I'm in Michigan, but I really feel like California is where I want to be. The tech industry is exciting, the weather is better than MI, and more liberal marijuana laws to boot.

The hardest thing would be moving from my family. Well that and the thousands in debt. It sucks feeling stuck.

Move while you are young don't be a loser like me and stay and regret it when you are old.
 
I have been in a slump for the last week just feeling like I will never get control of my brain back. I think way to much and have a lot of anxiety over debt. My mom has a large debt with credit cards and some of that is mine, along with my school loans it just seems like to much sometimes. I know I am a strong person and I do not feel down much as my depression only makes me irritable and makes my mind race to where it's almost like an overload. Also get suicidal thoughts which is the worst part and I kinda just let them in and let them do their thing and they will go away after awhile but they will always come back. I use to fight them but started to get headaches from to much fighting and this way at least they leave for awhile. I have never had sex and never have had a relationship which I would love to have both, but I have never had the best luck with women. I have dated but never made it to the sex part or relationship part. To a certain extent I am introverted by nature, and do believe our (US) ideals lead me to feel worthless since I am not doing what society feels is normal. No relationship, no sex, no partying much, not a drinker, do not use drugs, etc. at times that empowers me to be proud of myself, but more often then not it makes me feel horrible. I do not take AD's as Zoloft gave me horrible nightmares and worse suicidal thoughts so I instantly quit taking it after a week, tried some St. John's wort and that just gave me headaches. I don't feel I need drugs to cope (I could be lying to myself). Just wanted to type this out and see of anybody had any input on my situation. I know some of you are going through worse and I wish you the best of luck to get over this horrible disease. I fucking hate it and wish it would be cured, makes me want to try to cure
It myself as I hate being a slave to my brain.


Also one part if me that I did not divulge is the broken relationship me and my father (he is an alcoholic) have, he lives with us, but that is it, he is there but not emotionally. I really hate having him around, but a part of me wants him more then anything in the world. I have never had a great relationship with him and wish one day I can, but I am just to scared of telling him as he has never opened up and I don't want to be crushed by him not caring.
 
Is it depression if I'm bored of a lot of things? I'm bored of food even though there is a variety of food in my house. Bored of games even though I have so many to play. I'm bored of music even though once again I have a large variety of music.
 
Is it depression if I'm bored of a lot of things? I'm bored of food even though there is a variety of food in my house. Bored of games even though I have so many to play. I'm bored of music even though once again I have a large variety of music.

Depression does make you lose interest in things you had prior interest in.
 
How feasible is it for someone to just move across the country?

I'm 22 and I'll be graduating in May with at least $31k in debt. Could be more, I hate looking. I'm in Michigan, but I really feel like California is where I want to be. The tech industry is exciting, the weather is better than MI, and more liberal marijuana laws to boot.

The hardest thing would be moving from my family. Well that and the thousands in debt. It sucks feeling stuck.

I'm in somewhat of a similar situation. I graduate with a technical associates and certifications next December with $20k in debt, but I aim to save up $10K+ so I can move afterwards. The $20K debt I plan to deal with after finding a job in the industry under what I'm studying for. California seems like it'd be expensive, although I know that if you go outside the mega cities (San Fran, LA, San Diego) you'll find cheaper places to live that still enjoy the nice weather, not to mention there's also NorCal. I will also coincidentally be 22 when I graduate haha.

As for the family thing, yeah, that sucks, but you can still call them up. I think that by moving away you open yourself to more opportunities and chances to be in a better position than where you're at now, even if it's at the risk of being lonely for the first few months. I imagine a lot of people are lonely when they move to a new place. But that's merely my speculation, I've lived in the same West Texas city for 21 years. Moving is probably the most literal take on the phrase "getting out of your comfort zone".
 
Is it depression if I'm bored of a lot of things? I'm bored of food even though there is a variety of food in my house. Bored of games even though I have so many to play. I'm bored of music even though once again I have a large variety of music.

It could be just that you are bored of sitting at home?
 
I have had depressions in my life even psychotic breakdowns and psychose's. But I always had a sort of sabotage part in me, still have it. Probably many other people have it as well I think. I am leaning towards the last part of my study and I did almost nothing for my study the last 3 months. Probably sort of afraid of it to end... anyone else has this?
 
Here's another one.

Does anyone else get depression triggered through popular media (movies, tv and books)? I've often found that, through watching or reading certain situations, most typically those involving descriptions of youth, relationships and long-lasting friendships to be those which cause an almost immediate surge in depression.

I've actually found books to be the worst culprit, because of all the written details and descriptions used to illustrate these events, especially when they get into talking about the wonders of relationships and bonds that are forged between individuals and the happiness that is shared.

It really sucks. I wish it didn't happen, but I've caught it happening almost near constantly for me to ignore it.
Sometimes, yes. I'm ashamed of admitting it, but it kinda happened to me when playing the Mass Effect series, due to the relationship stuff in the games.

With music too, listening to some Bee Gees' tracks while feeling down is a bad idea.
 
To clarify, the interviews wouldn't have to be an in-depth story of your depression. It can be pretty free-form so as as it's ostensibly about depression.

I'll also send you the edited transcript for approval before posting.

There hasn't been much interest so far, but I'm hoping a few pioneers will demonstrate the benefit. Plus, I'd just like to get to know all of you better.
 
It's strange to read posts from so many people who are going through the same thing you are when you thought you were the only one all the time.

I just don't get it though. What is depression? Is there something physically wrong with the brain? It's like a rollercoaster ride for me. One moment it feels like I can work through all my problems but as soon as something bad happens it feels like the whole world is about to end. Sometimes when I feel that way and it starts to get better I don't even want it to because it just sets me up for a longer fall.
 
It's strange to read posts from so many people who are going through the same thing you are when you thought you were the only one all the time.

I just don't get it though. What is depression? Is there something physically wrong with the brain? It's like a rollercoaster ride for me. One moment it feels like I can work through all my problems but as soon as something bad happens it feels like the whole world is about to end. Sometimes when I feel that way and it starts to get better I don't even want it to because it just sets me up for a longer fall.

I know this feel all too well.
 
It's strange to read posts from so many people who are going through the same thing you are when you thought you were the only one all the time.

I just don't get it though. What is depression? Is there something physically wrong with the brain? It's like a rollercoaster ride for me. One moment it feels like I can work through all my problems but as soon as something bad happens it feels like the whole world is about to end. Sometimes when I feel that way and it starts to get better I don't even want it to because it just sets me up for a longer fall.

Sounds exactly like me. It really sucks, and makes me apprehensive about having a "good" day or feeling "all right" because I know a really bad crash is just around the corner.
 
So I didn't go to that Halloween party. I felt too depressed and didn't want to leave the house. I already know that guy who invited me doesn't feel the same way I do him. Guys just don't like me. I hate my heart wishing and hoping for stuff like that knowing it won't happen at all. I took two of those anti depressant pills and 5 Advil and I don't feel any better. The pro of sucide is not having to feel like this ever. Never hoping for something that will never happen. Life isn't for me anymore. I could take 20 pills and they won't do anything but if I shot myself in the head it would cure everything
 
Absolutely I would. I kind of did once. I literally didn't get out of bed for over a week for anything but to go to the bathroom. Had some crackers and drinks in the room and would take some sleeping pills, wake up, take some more, wake up...etc for a week. I'm sure it was unbelievably bad for me. But fuck it. I'd do it again if I could.
 
Today was not a good day

Been officially jobless since yesterday. All my plans and all the little things I was slowly working towards? gone.
Went out "partying" with friends but felt like a piece of shit all night long. Looked myself in the mirror and saw a puny little nobody staring back at me.
Started smoking too for whatever reason because I dont know what the fuck I'm doing anymore.

Maybe its not depression yet but it sure feels like a pretty quick shortcut to it right now.
Cant seem to muster the will to drag my ass to the gym either and I look pale as hell too so I know anxiety is creeping in.

Sorry, I just really needed to vent.
 
One of the worst things about being depressed is that feeling of hopelessness. The feeling that the Depression will never go away. Thinking about suicide helps because it gives you a way out no matter how bad things are. That's how it is for me at least.
 
One of the worst things about being depressed is that feeling of hopelessness. The feeling that the Depression will never go away. Thinking about suicide helps because it gives you a way out no matter how bad things are. That's how it is for me at least.

I think that's the way it is for most of us. I'm such a mess right now. Complete shut-in, only awake when it's dark out.
 
My social anxiety seems to be getting worse, I stumble over words even when talking to close friends lately. I also put off having to leave the house to return a redbox movie today, and even contemplated putting it off to tomorrow.
 
I have one good friend left and he is very understanding of my issues and knows what I suffer from. I have not seen him in about 2 months.

I'm thinking, no I know my social anxiety is getting worse. I haven't went outside to check the mail in 2 days because I fear someone might be out there and i'd have to talk to them. I can't even hold down a work from home job because I just can't communicate with people. I'm nice and courteous to everyone, its just the voice in my head is telling me I despise talking to people. I actually just logged right out of my job tonight an hour and half early just because I couldn't stand talking anymore and laid on my bed looking at the ceiling.

The only thing keeping me going right now is the college courses i'm taking trying to get some sort of forward momentum going. My fear though is that all my courses this term are online but next term at least two of them will have to be on campus and it scares me to death. I know myself and I know i'm going to be sitting in my car one morning before class powerless to turn it on and drive to class and i'm going to walk back into my place and crawl into bed and give up.

I don't have an answer, wish I did, but just know we all aren't suffering alone.
 
I have one good friend left and he is very understanding of my issues and knows what I suffer from. I have not seen him in about 2 months.

I'm thinking, no I know my social anxiety is getting worse. I haven't went outside to check the mail in 2 days because I fear someone might be out there and i'd have to talk to them. I can't even hold down a work from home job because I just can't communicate with people. I'm nice and courteous to everyone, its just the voice in my head is telling me I despise talking to people. I actually just logged right out of my job tonight an hour and half early just because I couldn't stand talking anymore and laid on my bed looking at the ceiling.

The only thing keeping me going right now is the college courses i'm taking trying to get some sort of forward momentum going. My fear though is that all my courses this term are online but next term at least two of them will have to be on campus and it scares me to death. I know myself and I know i'm going to be sitting in my car one morning before class powerless to turn it on and drive to class and i'm going to walk back into my place and crawl into bed and give up.

I don't have an answer, wish I did, but just know we all aren't suffering alone.

Have you talked to a doctor? In the short term, many people use Benzos to overcome that crushing anxiety. A less addictive choice is propranolol. It's not good if your blood pressure is low, but surgeons an musicians use it to steady their nerves before surgery/performances. It's pretty darn safe, cheap, and people seem to have good experience with it. There's also buspar or SSRIs in the longer term. Of course, CBT can be a huge help. You can learn to identify those anxious thoughts and head them off.

There's another idea that's gaining popularity that you should just confront those feelings - experience them without meds or psychological techniques and embrace them as part of your life. I'm not sure how well that works, but it's a theory out there.

Living with crippling anxiety is unworkable. There are meds and non-med therapies that can help. Don't be afraid to ask for help. Chronic anxiety is terrible for your health.
 
like it would do any good. no amount of treatment can change me from being a loser

One of THE defining characteristics of the human race is our capacity for growth and change. That's not to say it's easy, but we're all capable of change.
 
Is it weird that I (usually) operate better while depressed? I feel I'm more creative and get more done (even with the fogginess and lack of motivation) than the few periods of time when I wasn't depressed.
 
It's strange to read posts from so many people who are going through the same thing you are when you thought you were the only one all the time.

I just don't get it though. What is depression? Is there something physically wrong with the brain? It's like a rollercoaster ride for me. One moment it feels like I can work through all my problems but as soon as something bad happens it feels like the whole world is about to end. Sometimes when I feel that way and it starts to get better I don't even want it to because it just sets me up for a longer fall.

If you can figure it out definitively, congratulations on your Nobel!

In psychiatry, we like to talk about the bio-psycho-social model.

So, bio - do you have a family history of mental illness? Is there a medical reason that you're depressed, such a certain drugs or a hypoactive thyroid? Beyond that, are there problems with your synapses, transporters, the way your brain is wired?

Psycho - this covers developmental problems and other psychological comorbidities

social - what's your social system like? Do you have adequate support? Do you have additional social stressors?

The balance will be different for different people, but the take home is that depression is not just one thing; it's a multifactorial disease. Getting better may require treatment along more than one dimension.
 
No more responses about my situation? Don't worry, I'm at a loss for words as well.

I think the problem with it is that it's a problem a lot of people have. I've moved halfway across the globe by myself when I was 19 and it worked out, but I won't go as far as go and say "Do it it's super easy!", because it's really not... It worked out for me though. I was a loner when I was back home, lonely and depressed. I moved, had so much stress getting accustomed to the place, trying to live, meet new people, had to experience new things and more or less forgot about all my problems. Then also randomly met my first girlfriend when I wasn't even thinking about girls.


I'm not saying "do it!", but it definitely did the trick for me. If you CAN do it, it might be worth a shot.
 
What can be done about a total lack of sex drive? This may be lengthy, so please bear with me.

I had to move back home after college graduation due to a lack of jobs in the college town I was currently living. This was absolutely devastating for me socially. I went from living in a town surrounded by peers with similar interests to being somewhat of an oddity in my hometown because of my age. I am surrounded by geriatrics, conservatives, and there are no people here my age. I am 28.

You know what? I am pretty good looking, but I can do fuck all about my dating situation at the moment. I've tried online dating. I've tried asking girls out. Nothing. The most common response I receive is that they're already dating someone. I am not a fool. That may the case some of the times, of even a majority of the times, but sometimes convenient excuses are also lies. So I've been without female companionship for three years and this does not look to change. I could lower my standards. I already have. But if I scrape the bottom of the barrel any more I'll be digging myself to China. In short, this has utterly destroyed my sex drive. I've grown so accustom to be single that I'm getting eerily comfortable with it. This may have severely hindered me in the long term, but what's a guy to do?

I'd say that people do no want to be around the depressed. you need to be yourself to have any chance of making friends, getting dates. Getting a GF isseen as a solution to the problem; it's more like the ultimate goal.
 
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I'd say that people do no want to be around the depressed. you need to be yourself to have any chance of making friends, getting dates. Getting a GF isseen as a solution to the problem; it's more like the ultimate goal.

I don't think things are that black and white. If drug abusers and physically abusive men can land girlfriends then I would imagine depressed people can. One of my coworkers was married to a man that was bipolar for three years.
 
I'd say that people do no want to be around the depressed. you need to be yourself to have any chance of making friends, getting dates. Getting a GF isseen as a solution to the problem; it's more like the ultimate goal.

This. First you have to fix yourself to a degree where you are A) somewhat content with who you are and B) a fun and interesting person to be around with. Then you have to fix your social life: make a few friends. And now, finally, you are ready for a girlfriend.

There are of course exceptions, people who get a girlfriend despite being depressed and having no friends, but for the most part that does not end well.
A buddy of mine with depression and almost zero social life finally got a girlfriend, but he left her after a few months because she did not magically solve all his problems or even improve his life.

Trust me guys, getting a girlfriend is not the be-all, end-all. Now, getting laid OTOH (especially if you're still a virgin), I can certainly see that helping.

I don't think things are that black and white. If drug abusers and physically abusive men can land girlfriends then I would imagine depressed people can. One of my coworkers was married to a man that was bipolar for three years.
Yeah, it's possible, but it's not a happy relationship most of the time.
 
If you can figure it out definitively, congratulations on your Nobel!

In psychiatry, we like to talk about the bio-psycho-social model.

So, bio - do you have a family history of mental illness? Is there a medical reason that you're depressed, such a certain drugs or a hypoactive thyroid? Beyond that, are there problems with your synapses, transporters, the way your brain is wired?

Psycho - this covers developmental problems and other psychological comorbidities

social - what's your social system like? Do you have adequate support? Do you have additional social stressors?

The balance will be different for different people, but the take home is that depression is not just one thing; it's a multifactorial disease. Getting better may require treatment along more than one dimension.

I'm pretty fucked on all of those. Particularly bio/family. Both maternal great grandfathers were crazy violent drunks who had even shittier parents themselves. My grandma, having grown up in a terribly abusive childhood, is a bit crazy and has been on some forms of anti-depressants since before I was even born, but stories from my mom's childhood involve an awful lot of her being highly depressed and often threatening suicide. Luckily she rarely has been that way since the grandchildren came along, but after breaking her hip, that side came back a bit. My grandpa is bi-polar, had to be institutionalized for a few months a few years ago and seems to have been fine since then, but is always on the brink of going manic and gets completely, consumingly obsessed in a hurry. He spends 16 hours a day playing online card games and will miss doctor's appointments and sometimes even eating to make sure he doesn't get booted from games.

One aunt is also bi-polar, a bit more extreme than my grandpa. Of her 3 kids, one is borderline bi-polar, the other two have been depressed most of their lives. The other aunt has had severe depression since she was a teenager. I've never known my mom not to be depressed. She also had had thyroid problems since her 20s (nearly 50 now). I myself grew up in an extremely tense household. Not abusive in anyway, not physically, emotionally, or verbally. Just tense. My step-dad and I lived in the same house and didn't speak to each other for about 10 years. That's a lot of tension built up. I'm not sure how my younger sister is. I kind of missed out on her growing up while I was busy locked in my room and I moved to in with my grandparents before I was out of high school. She seems a lot happier than any of the rest of us in the family, but I only really see her at holidays.

I distinctly remember being in 3rd grade on a field trip and being asked by another kid on the bus why I was so sad all the time. That's what, like 8 or 9? I really don't remember a whole lot before that, so I've more or less been depressed for as long as I can remember. My normal is depressed, although I've had a few severe periods that got pretty dark. I don't even know how to not be depressed at this point in my life. The last four months or so I've faded in and out of severe, lying on the floor and my base line depression. And so fucking irritable. It takes everything I have to not tell people to fuck off when they talk to me. Even family members.

I don't really have a support group to speak off. Especially since I lost my job, since that was really the only time/place I socialized with anyone. One person has kept in contact with me, and she's my ex girlfriend (ended on the best of terms), but she's been dealing with her own depression and I've only actually seen her once since July. So all the people I did talk to at work moved on once I wasn't there. To be expected, I guess. The other one true friend I have has a boyfriend that absolutely hates me and picks fights whenever she talks to me (even though we've known each other for years before he was around and he wanted to be best bros with me before he left her and then came back, now I'm the enemy or something), so she cut me off for the sake of keeping her household and kids from having to deal with stupid arguments all the time. That one was the worst, because she's essentially my best friend and really the one keeping me reasonably sane. And then she completely cut me off with no warning because she wanted to make it work with the father of her kid, and he all of the sudden couldn't handle me being her friend. It was weird. I've talked to her a handful of times, as he's in the process of moving back out, but the only time I've seen her was a random chance of bumping into her while grocery shopping. She's my bro. She couldn't be there for me when I was going through one of the worst periods I can recall, and that hurt a lot more than I'd care to admit.
 
No one is "fixed". Most people you will run into in your life will have glaring personality flaws. It's what makes us human. There is no such thing as fixing yourself. Even if I were to improve myself, there are deep, resonating traces of the old me that will echo throughout.
 
No one is "fixed". Most people you will run into in your life will have glaring personality flaws. It's what makes us human. There is no such thing as fixing yourself. Even if I were to improve myself, there are deep, resonating traces of the old me that will echo throughout.

I like to say "in remission."
 
No one is "fixed". Most people you will run into in your life will have glaring personality flaws. It's what makes us human. There is no such thing as fixing yourself. Even if I were to improve myself, there are deep, resonating traces of the old me that will echo throughout.

There's a difference between having flaws and being a total wreck.

e.g.: flawed person: having a bit of a temper, always being late, having a lack of tact, forgetting people's birthdays all the time... but being a well rounded person otherwhise

e.g.: wreck: depressed, sitting at home alone, having no friends, frustrated with own life, no hobbies


And yes, fixing your own life is possible. I was a total wreck less than three years ago.
Literally zero friends or acquaintances in my town, depressed and with social anxiety.

Today, I'm still frustrated and unhappy with some aspects of my life (mainly due to my social anxiety, which is really slow at getting better), but my depression is pretty much gone and I have quite a few friends and acquaintances.
 
I do have friends, however. Two pretty good ones. I am not a loner. It's not like they meet women either. Christ, this area is fucking depressing.

Not sure if having two friends equals a satisfying social life. For me, it doesn't.
I need acquaintances as well as friends.
Maybe I'll meet someone I know briefly at university, or in the train, or wherever and we'll have a short chat. Maybe he'll invite me to a party, or I'll get to know his friends who accompany him, whatever.

They're obviously not as important as my actual friends, but they definitely make life more interesting.
 
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