I don't recall him being THAT arrogant during the Halo days but he was only brought into Bungie in 2011. He is essentially Bungie's mouthpiece so we can assume that the customer blaming and arrogance rises to the top.
Destiny: Exotic weapons fixed.... and then broken.
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I don't recall him being THAT arrogant during the Halo days but he was only brought into Bungie in 2011. He is essentially Bungie's mouthpiece so we can assume that the customer blaming and arrogance rises to the top.
God I can't believe how much this makes me want to rage. I played this game a ton and I know it took me a week and a half to level each exotic. Just no.
I can't even pretend to say I want to play Destiny anymore. Everything I got has been reset, let alone obsolete. The long as grind to even reset weapons could take days, and then a week on top of that. I don't think I can have my 5 exotics levelled back to top before mid-January of doing dailies every day.
Do they have any idea?
I can't even pretend to say I want to play Destiny anymore. Everything I got has been reset, let alone obsolete. The long as grind to even reset weapons could take days, and then a week on top of that. I don't think I can have my 5 exotics levelled back to top before mid-January of doing dailies every day.
Do they have any idea?
Hoho for breakfast
Member
Not what he meant. He clarified on Reddit saying: "Game Informer reporting on this front is spot-on. There are some elements in the player response that amount to misinformation. That's a comment about the facts, rather than your visceral, emotional reactions to the information".
Edit: Here are his reddit posts: http://www.reddit.com/user/DeeJ_BNG
Ardenyal
Member
This is about upgrading your old exotics from max 300 to the new max. And you will lose the progress you have made on the gear.
few days at most if you play this like its your job
You do realize that this will give you a new exotic with higher damage cap, right?
The alternative is that you'll find another exotic that does, say, 350 DPS and you'll never look at your old exotic again. This at least gives you a way to use your old gear with the new level cap.
Me, I'm fine with this.
The alternative is that you'll find another exotic that does, say, 350 DPS and you'll never look at your old exotic again. This at least gives you a way to use your old gear with the new level cap.
Me, I'm fine with this.
I'd laugh if when you trade in your exotic it gives you a different one. It would just make Destiny complete.
This is beyond stupid. Like, of all the possible ways to handle upgrading exotics, THIS is what they finally settled on? I would not have even thought of it.
Oh well, I guess it's good I only have two fully upgraded exotics (SUROS and Ice Breaker).
Wait a sec, what does this mean for exotic armor? Pretty sure they have to do something to keep those relevant since they're also capped at 30.
Oh well, I guess it's good I only have two fully upgraded exotics (SUROS and Ice Breaker).
Wait a sec, what does this mean for exotic armor? Pretty sure they have to do something to keep those relevant since they're also capped at 30.
Not long really. Especially this week with the nightfall and weekly having solar burn.
Victory Red
Member
I've played this game over 300 hours. 300!!
... and I only have 3 Exotic weapons maxed. I have about 9 Exotic weapons sitting around in the vault because in order to succeed at any higher level content you cannot use them. No one's raiding with Thorn and Bad JuJu, So we spend all our time upgrading raid weapons and one exotic at a time to fart around with.
I was looking forward to slowly upgrading the rest of my Exotics that I don't use much so that maybe I will actually be able to use them in the near future when they are leveled up.
Not now.
I have to start from scratch and level all this shit up again.
... and I only have 3 Exotic weapons maxed. I have about 9 Exotic weapons sitting around in the vault because in order to succeed at any higher level content you cannot use them. No one's raiding with Thorn and Bad JuJu, So we spend all our time upgrading raid weapons and one exotic at a time to fart around with.
I was looking forward to slowly upgrading the rest of my Exotics that I don't use much so that maybe I will actually be able to use them in the near future when they are leveled up.
Not now.
I have to start from scratch and level all this shit up again.
blue_phazon
Member
Wtf @ the Deej tweet. He seemed so nice whenever he posts on gaf 
The Lamonster
Member
Wrong. The alternative is simply letting us commit one additional Exotic Shard to our vanilla exotics in order to bring them up to date with the latest expansion.
Instead we're having to do that AND losing all XP & material progress made on the piece. I'd almost rather have microtransactions than this hollow player retention bullshit.
This is about upgrading your old exotics from max 300 to the new max. And you will lose the progress you have made on the gear.
few days at most if you play this like its your job
Your old exotics went from 260 to 300. Once you've given them to xur and the progress is reset they start at 302 attack. You are losing nothing except for the perks and in exchange you get to use your favorite exotic for a new raid. Seems like a win-win to me.
DrROBschiz
Member
That would make the most sense honestly
Latvian Hitman
Member
Not really. The exotic shard thing is part of this week's patch. Exotics no longer require ascendant materials to upgrade on the last group of nodes, just one exotic shard for the final node. This change has been well received.
What's being talked about in this thread is the fact that the new exotic gear coming in next week's DLC will have higher base traits than current exotic gear. We're going to be given the option to upgrade our current exotic gear to the base traits of the new DLC exotic gear, but it's going to be grindy and expensive.
Honestly the people complaining about This makes little sense to me especially since once the weapon is updated. I don't see how they could have allowed the upgrades to stay applied since its an new version of the same weapon that you get.
If they have a way than upgrades should stay but if not than at least we can upgrade them.
I am pissed at the legendary change needing the vanguard / crucible piece and marks not just marks. I feel that is a bullshit change but the exotic upgrade is fair.
If they have a way than upgrades should stay but if not than at least we can upgrade them.
I am pissed at the legendary change needing the vanguard / crucible piece and marks not just marks. I feel that is a bullshit change but the exotic upgrade is fair.
You didn't quote what I put at the end...? Which I addressed your point.
I run Weeklies and Nightfalls on my 2 characters in like 50mins, I did the Hard Raid twice and every daily for two days on both characters. I ended up with about 6000. That was a long as time to have the chance to reset my shit.
JimmyRustler
Member
It's not that bad IMO. After all, they basically removed the material farming with the last patch - and up until now like 50% of the weapon grinding was material farming.
Personally, I can live with that. At least they don't totally devalue the existing exotics, so I you love some of your existing ones you can keep them for the new expansion.
I think lots of people are overlooking this point.
benicillin
Banned
The only thing I can think of is that it's a difficulty curve thing so that players can't get max gear on day one.
Ryouji Gunblade
Member
This sounds better. Because it doesn't need AssMaterials now.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Well, one is that people already wasted exotic shards upgrading a gun that they need to reset later anyway.
Two is that resetting means losing the perks, which is the only reason why all exotics outside of the Icebreaker are useful.
I can't control you editing your posts after I quote them. I responded to what you had posted.
FunkyPajamas
Member
lol this is typical Bungie bullshit.
Fuck these guys and the horse they rode in on.
Fuck these guys and the horse they rode in on.
Zomba13
Member
Ah ok. I misunderstood. I thought they changed the way there ended up working in the current patch. Still though, why not add a new level that ups the damage and all that to bring it in line, rather than have to trade it in and upgrade again why not just a new level that takes to coins or shards or whatever the high end mat is. Like, in the end it may end up taking the same amount of time to get that last level and those mats but the psychological effect ends up being better. Instead of "wtf I have to re-do this!?" it's "gosh, this last level takes a while huh guys?".
I sort of wish I hadn't read the reactions in this thread. I'm not sure people understand what's going on here.
The new expansion has +10 magic swords in it. Your current sword is +5. Rather than tossing your +5 sword in the trash, there's an option to upgrade it to +10. Get it?
The new expansion has +10 magic swords in it. Your current sword is +5. Rather than tossing your +5 sword in the trash, there's an option to upgrade it to +10. Get it?
boredofcanada
Member
It's like they want to get the word TRADE in your head.
And here I was this morning thinking I would like to try the dlc. Yeah right.
And here I was this morning thinking I would like to try the dlc. Yeah right.
Latvian Hitman
Member
Yep. I think the upgrade path is too grindy/expensive, but this is actually a good decision otherwise. I think a lot of people are reading into this wrong.
The Lamonster
Member
That's a good point, but the developer should have come up with a more creative way to achieve this instead of punishing the player. Exotic Shards are limited and somewhat expensive. I think making us add one more shard to our vanilla exotics would have been fine.
Or hell, make it two. Anything is better than wiping our hard-earned progress.
Except getting 7000 glimmer takes a lot of time, and upgrading our exotics in the first place took a lot of time. There are also people like me who have already dismantled a couple of exotics for shards to use, and now because of this, they are gone forever and we just have to grind for strange coins to buy more.
You would be right if this new shit didn't need 7000 glimmer aside from the usual glimmer costs on upgrade and with our really crappy 25k cap that never made sense especially without any sort of an auction house.
Then add in the timing of this full reset, how many weapons and gear pieces we got, the way they are making shards and energies redundant and making old work even more worthless..... Almost forgot to mention that the new weapons from the expansion don't cover all situation, at least from what I have seen in pictures of them.
Yes, this is better than every other game because we got the option for this now! Yup!
:|
This, right here? This is a ridiculous over-reaction.
Three, the only reason to upgrade old exotics now is to get a few extra RNG rolls on the chance to spend more currency to reach the new exotic baseline.
Four, why did they even release exotic shards without telling us about this shit?
Five, fuck.
Victory Red
Member
Except, the "perks" are the only thing that make these guns Exotic. Thorn, Gallarjorn, Bad JuJu are all weapons that have very uniquer perks to them. In some cases the weapon is rendered useless without this perk.
darkistheway
Member
All I care about is Icebreaker remaining viable. All this game is, is a grind anyways.
It was like right after. damn you quick lol
Plus legendaries have no upgrade path so you'll have to find new legendaries. I guess this expansion is for you. It's not for me though. Grinding all this over so soon after completing it is a no go on my end.
no. Theres an option to throw away your +5 sword, get a +0 one and spend all that time leveling it up to +10. Get it?
You should work for Bungie with that condescending attitude.
squidhands
Member
At the very least, the last damage upgrade node could have been reset and needed to be upgraded. It takes a long ass time to get to an exotic weapon's specialty upgrade, and the thought of doing that with so many weapons (whenever Xur offers them, by the way. Which will also be a LONG ASS TIME for Hawkmoon and Monte Carlo when they're no longer PS exclusive), kinda makes me want to break tiny, easily breakable things.
7000 glimmer can be gotten in under an hour. The new upgrades will take much less time than the old ones. The exotics being upgradeable is a GOOD thing.
I'm not defending the rolling out of exotic shards a week before they should have been though without telling us in advance. That was a stupid idea and I'm sorry for the lost exotic shards.
It's more like you have a +5 sword with a perk that allows you to throw your sword and have it explode. They are giving you a +5 sword back without the perk and having you level it to +10 to get the perk back.
So when DLC 2 hits will we reset shit again? Sounds like skipping a DLC is worthwhile right? This means that playing since the announcement is stupid, it means all the EXP we put into levelling stuff has been wasted. Ass Energies and Shards were already wasted as they retroactively decide to fucking artificially increase difficulty in the worst way possible.
The DLC Raid is only going to have the same enemies with a higher LV, so the same difficulty as being LV4 fighting a LV6.
Latvian Hitman
Member
I agree. I think they should just add three new nodes at the end giving three new levels of damage/armor/light rating buff and requiring another exotic shard for the final one.
Upgrading old items to make them relevant to new content is cool by me. Telling players they can stick the grinding they did to upgrade current version of item up their butt is kind of insulting though. And that guy's tweet telling people how they should feel is downright infuriating.
It's like the expansion is gonna be so short on content that they need you to spend more time upgrading weapons you already wasted time grinding to get.
Well at least it saved me from making any effort to finish up 2 exotic bounties that have been clogging my inventory for the last 2 months.
Well at least it saved me from making any effort to finish up 2 exotic bounties that have been clogging my inventory for the last 2 months.
The Lamonster
Member
Until Bungie patches out Exclusion Zone farming.
Yep, this is a serious concern of mine. Obviously they will still have a place in crucible where everything is balanced, but certainly not Iron Banner or PvE. What a gyp.