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I got my usual reset matches planned for tonight; if I have time afterwards I'll keep you in mind.

No worries! Tomorrow may work better then if you're on. Otherwise no prob.

 

[Twilight Gap]

Skolas was saying the same thing about ghjallahorn during solar burn week.

the way i see it

exploiting in pve is cheesing
exploiting in pvp is cheating

both are gaining "unintended" advantages over the enemy.

 

[Darknyss09]

Except nobody uses legendary weapons as their weapon part source? (Ignoring the ToO farm method).

While running missions, Strikes and Patrol you get a ton of blues and greens which also dismantle into weapon parts. Don't get me wrong, I also think there should be a way to buy weapon parts. But the rate at which they're currently obtained through blue/green dismantling for active players should be far higher than your upgrading expenses.

It's only when you add re rolling into the mix that weapon part scarcity really sticks its head out. Before HoW, upgrading cost a lot more and even so I think we all had hundreds or thousands of spares anyways. Calling 25 weapon parts for ascending an exotic weapon "ridiculous" seems hyperbolic to me, but to each their own.

Cool, you proved my point. "Grind enough and weapon parts won't be an issue."

When I play, I'm either doing NF, PoE or Trials. None of those give out blue or green weapons at a high rate.

 

[EL CUCO]

Jumping and aiming doesn't seem that hard with default controls.

You have to take your right thumb off the stick to hit X and then readjust your aim. With Jumper set up your thumb is never off the stick. Icarus is actually a decent perk now.

 

[PuMa]

So I'm guessing this is just great for PvP? I find it hard to use when using the sword relic.
Swing and slam are all over the place.

I like it outside of PVP as well. Everything just feels more natural to me.

Jumping and aiming doesn't seem that hard with default controls.

Yeah, I'm sure the defaults are comfortable for most people. I mean, that's why they are "default" I guess, right? Everyone will have different preferences of course. You do still have to take your finger off the right stick to jump with the default controls though.

 

[phen0m24]

Speaking of addictive urges... I'm thinking of getting an XBox One + Destiny just to create three new guardians.. and to play Destiny with some friends who've never seen the raid/end game content.

I thought about getting my son a One

Spoiler

I've already bought Destiny for Xbox One

Just so he could play with The odd One and E92 and these fine Xbox Bros.

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Haven't yet.

 

[wesleyshark]

the way i see it

exploiting in pve is cheesing
exploiting in pvp is cheating

both are gaining "unintended" advantages over the enemy.

How is gjallahorn a cheese?

And I've been killed by weaponless Guardians who used the strategy of not equipping weapons. Once I understood how that was possible, I stopped being mad about it, as it's not a cheat. Just a clever means of leveling. If it gets patched, it gets patched, but if it doesn't... Game on!

 

[LiK]

the way i see it

exploiting in pve is cheesing
exploiting in pvp is cheating

both are gaining "unintended" advantages over the enemy.

Yea, example:

Heavy ammo bug in PVE is fine.

Heavy ammo bug in PVP is NOT fine.

 

[PrivateWHudson]

Referencing my post a few posts up, I consider this a cheat. Exploiting a bug to gain a huge advantage over the opponents? Sounds like cheating to me.

I tried it, and don't see it as a huge advantage. I'd say it's about as much of a cheat as emptying two rounds to get to "final round", or using the burn points from thorn to track a player that has gone behind a wall.

If it's something that can easily be used accidentally, then it may be dirty, but not a reportable cheat. For instance, I really like the spine arms and happen to equip the best looking helmet for my Hunter (CE helm), now all of a sudden I'm cheating if I use swarm grenades that can deter enemies from walking through a choke point? Trip mines suck for this because they can be disabled...swarm mines cannot.

 

[Johnny Cage]

I still dont understand this swarm grenade exploit that is being talked about. Could someone explain it and why it is so bad.

 

[PuMa]

How is gjallahorn a cheese?

It's definitely not.

 

[th3dude]

Thinking about the shoulder charge exotic from Xur today for my soon-to-be-leveled up Titan. I'm a PVP fan. Thoughts?

 

[ipitythafool32]

I thought about getting my son a One

Spoiler

I've already bought Destiny for Xbox One

Just so he could play with The odd One and E92 and these fine Xbox Bros.

Spoiler

Haven't yet.

Lol..already have the One ..and was seriously just thinking about that this morning. Maybe I need rehab

 

[PuMa]

I still dont understand this swarm grenade exploit that is being talked about. Could someone explain it and why it is so bad.

People are stacking the Ashes to Assets perk, which when used with Swarm Grenade, allows them to get a super up very quickly. Each small grenade in the Swarm Grenade is incorrectly registering as a grenade kill when they hit.

 

[Twilight Gap]

I tried it, and don't see it as a huge advantage. I'd say it's about as much of a cheat as emptying two rounds to get to "final round", or using the burn points from thorn to track a player that has gone behind a wall.

If it's something that can easily be used accidentally, then it may be dirty, but not a reportable cheat. For instance, I really like the spine arms and happen to equip the best looking helmet for my Hunter (CE helm), now all of a sudden I'm cheating if I use swarm grenades that can deter enemies from walking through a choke point? Trip mines suck for this because they can be disabled...swarm mines cannot.

thorn and final round arent cheating. a player intentionally speccing into ashes to assets and throwing scatter grenades around for super quick golden guns is knowingly exploiting a bug in the game.

skirmish used to let players win games by jumping off the map and reviving each other. knowing that it was an exploit, id say teams that did it were cheating.

cheating isnt the worst thing in the world so there's no reason to sugar coat it.

 

[rNilla]

You have to take your right thumb off the stick to hit X and then readjust your aim.

You do still have to take your finger off the right stick to jump with the default controls though.

No I don't.

 

[wesleyshark]

The weaponless load out is akin to the Ashes to Asset hunter perk being used or when Warlocks could infinitely rez back in the VoG days.

Yes, they are unintended means of ability use but it's not a cheat. Stop broad stroaking the term "cheat" - it lessens the severity of actual cheating (ie, lag switches and other game hacking).

No I don't.

I do the same thing! Thumb bumper ftw.

 

[PuMa]

No I don't.

LOL! I cannot do that.

 

[Requiem]

FINALLY the Vex is mine!!

 

[silver.tongue]

No I don't.

I cant aim touching the stick like that. At all.

 

[figadapaura]

damn are you guys really overflowing with gear like that? i dont miss those days. until recently my vault was full of gear id give to my alts to help them level up, but nothing i wouldnt really use

i think youll still have the urge. but youll be carrying me this time

haha my vault is mostly full of cloaks

I don't want lose them lol

 

[PuMa]

I cant aim touching the stick like that. At all.

Rodiard aims up and to the right every time he jumps!

 

[Johnny Cage]

People are stacking the Ashes to Assets perk, which when used with Swarm Grenade, allows them to get a super up very quickly. Each small grenade in the Swarm Grenade is incorrectly registering as a grenade kill when they hit.

So each swarm grenade basically gets you a free super if they all hit the target. No one can defend this obvious glitch.

 

[PuMa]

haha my vault is mostly full of cloaks

I don't want lose them lol

Girl gotta have a full closet!

 

[Lnkn52]

Girl gotta have a full closet!

I thought it was shoes.

 

[wesleyshark]

FINALLY the Vex is mine!!

Congrats!!!

I sherpa'd some Kinderguardians through VoG earlier this week on hard, and the one guy was going in for the very first time. He ended up getting a Universal Remote from the Gorgon chest, a bunch of armor pieces, and the Vex from Atheon. He was very happy.

I love VoG and still consider that the best thing to do in the game. Makes it even more enjoyable when you take people in who haven't done it before or haven't been able to finish it.

 

[Deku Tree]

Huh, never thought of that as "cheating". Just looks like a cool feature of a specific build around that exotic. Using Khepri you can chose to:

• Be a Gunslinger with the Stalker perk for invisibility
• Be a Bladedancer, keeping Stalker perk while also getting the choice between Encore or Hungering Blade
• Be a Bladedancer in a good stealth build with double Stalker perks on different cooldowns

All of these seem attractive for different encounters and entail distinct tradeoffs. Why do you think it's cheating?

In PvP the ability to be invis all the time seems like it was unintended and it feels like cheating the same as the scatter grenade GG exploit.

 

[PrivateWHudson]

thorn and final round arent cheating. a player intentionally speccing into ashes to assets and throwing scatter grenades around for super quick golden guns is knowingly exploiting the game.

skirmish used to let players win games by jumping off the map and reviving each other. knowing that it was an exploit, id say teams that did it were cheating.

cheating isnt the worst thing in the world so there's no reason to sugar coat it.

Would you report people for cheating if you saw them doing that? Dirty, exploiting, cheating...I guess the term doesn't matter, just whether you (the community, bungie) think it's bannable or not.

 

[phen0m24]

I jump and aim with the default controls. But obviously it's more awkward and difficult.

No. No.

Spoiler

The squad mates are both awkward and difficult

 

[Twilight Gap]

haha my vault is mostly full of cloaks

I don't want lose them lol

i know you dont really wear them though

 

[figadapaura]

Gjallarhorn ain't a cheese. I will fight anyone who says so.

i know you dont really wear them though

I mix up my cloaks enough. ;p

I'll go back to grinding Vanguard rep when I get bored of Dead Orbit.

 

[EL CUCO]

The MK stand aside Titan boots that Xur is selling are 30/36 light?? Lol WTH

 

[Lnkn52]

The MK stand alone Titan boots that Xur is selling are 36 light?? Lol WTH

Hey, I sell exotic shards too!

 

[PuMa]

Gjallarhorn ain't a cheese. I will fight anyone who says so.

Agreed.

 

[rNilla]

Rodiard aims up and to the right every time he jumps!

Nah, my aim is fine. This is how I get all of those jumping knife headshots.

 

[Deku Tree]

The MK stand alone Titan boots that Xur is selling are 36 light?? Lol WTH

All pre-HoW exotics start at 36 light now I believe. And you need to upgrade them fully with an exotic shard to get to 42 light.

Only the new exotics start at 42 light.

 

[we.are.the.armada]

Any 2 down for PoE 32 on PS4, add me - wearethearmada

 

[EL CUCO]

All pre-HoW exotics start at 36 light now I believe. And you need to upgrade them fully with an exotic shard to get to 42 light.

The other pieces of gear (MOTTM and LBN) are 36/42. The Stand asides are 30/36

 

[PrivateWHudson]

People are stacking the Ashes to Assets perk, which when used with Swarm Grenade, allows them to get a super up very quickly. Each small grenade in the Swarm Grenade is incorrectly registering as a grenade kill when they hit.

Sometimes. I think there is a reason every youtube video is PvE, because it felt real inconsistent in PvP. Hopefully it turn out to just be a mole hill.

 

[Twilight Gap]

Would you report people for cheating if you saw them doing that? Dirty, exploiting, cheating...I guess the term doesn't matter, just whether you (the community, bungie) think it's bannable or not.

it wont be bannable because there is no way to differentiate players who already had the perk and grenade from those who hopped on the bandwagon. it isnt as deliberate as the heavy ammo exploit was.

im not going to be high and mighty about it unless i see it abused in Trials.

 

[MagnetoWasRight]

Thinking about the shoulder charge exotic from Xur today for my soon-to-be-leveled up Titan. I'm a PVP fan. Thoughts?

It gets the melee bounty done in Iron Banner ASAP.

 

[Collateral22]

How did this Hunter "Glitch" even come about anyway? Has the scatter grenade always worked like that or did it just randomly started happening?

 

[Twilight Gap]

Gjallarhorn ain't a cheese. I will fight anyone who says so.


I mix up my cloaks enough. ;p

I'll go back to grinding Vanguard rep when I get bored of Dead Orbit.

fight me fig.

 

[phen0m24]

fight me fig.

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[figadapaura]

fight me fig.

prepare for a butt kicking

 

[Twilight Gap]

How did this Hunter "Glitch" even come about anyway? Has the scatter grenade always worked like that or did it just randomly started happening?

is probably a bug related to nothing manacles somehow

 

[PuMa]

Sometimes. I think there is a reason every youtube video is PvE, because it felt real inconsistent in PvP. Hopefully it turn out to just be a mole hill.

Yeah, I hope so. I really wonder why Bungie didn't mention it in the weekly update. Maybe they just haven't gotten word of it yet.

 

[phen0m24]

prepare for a butt kicking

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[DrDrizzay101]

In PvP the ability to be invis all the time seems like it was unintended and it feels like cheating the same as the scatter grenade GG exploit.

Imo invis is pretty useless in PvP. It's more likely to give away your position with the activation noise, and we all have better eyesight than Scrota.

"He's sitting right there in the corner, shoot him!"

 

[XenoRaven]

haha my vault is mostly full of cloaks

I don't want lose them lol

I keep all my cloaks and only dismantle if I have a dupe. I even have the you start with.