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[stb]

So what happens if I don't find a Hawkmoon until 9/15 or later? Will it be the Y2 Hawkmoon? Will that give me access to the Y1 Hawkmoon?

It'd drive me bonkers to have that hole in my collection.

Edit: worst top of page post in recent memory.

 

[dB Viper]

Great... all of my factions edged on all three characters.... but I can only change factions once a week.

 

[Juraash]

A weapon at the vendor costs 125. The cap is 200. I cannot buy 2 weapons I want because arbitrarily set numbers are set to annoy you.

But since there is no cap for the week you can still buy multiple upgrades in a week. Just because you can't buy multiple items at the same time doesn't mean the system is bad. If you are playing a decent amount anyways, you should have access to more upgrades in a shorter amount of time.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Wow. Defensive moves too? This might be the best thing yet.

Yeah, blocking sounds goddamned amazing.

There's needs to be a stream JUST for swords.

 

[17 Seconds]

I wonder what the huge overblown backlash will be from todays stream?

Well, we have our answer. The marks system is greatly improved and yet people are finding ways to not understand the functionality.

 

[lt519]

He probably didn't have a year 1 Hawkmoon, but you could see he definitely had a year 1 Gjallarhorn.

He had all the primaries as far as I could see in the stream, I paid attention to that to see if I could tell how many new ones there were. Seemed to be 11, but this is all questionable now. Wondering if you do have to find the Year 2 before you can buy them.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

But since there is no cap for the week you can still buy multiple upgrades in a week. Just because you can't buy multiple items at the same time doesn't mean the system is bad. If you are playing a decent amount anyways, you should have access to more upgrades in a shorter amount of time.

Yeah it's like people just want to play for three hours and get everything lol

 

[LiK]

Well, we have our answer. The marks system is greatly improved and yet people are finding ways to not understand the functionality.

speak for yourself. sorry, i'm not happy with that one thing in their entire stream.

 

[Dark Orchid]

Lol

I feel like if that's not a direct reference to Hive door farmers that's got to be the best RNG Bungie's ever implemented.

 

[flkraven]

Is it really that hard to stop the mark-grind and just hop into the tower to buy something?

 

[neoism]

goram end of page

deku pls

ahah yeah thats some over priced shit right there.. smh.

 

[AmateurHour212]

So one thing I counted.

He had all Year One primary weapons and there were 11 Primary Exotic plans for Year Two hidden. So 11 new exotic primaries, that's pretty awesome.

Not necessarily. Some of those could be more Year 1s that are being carried forward. The account they were using certainly didn't have all the Year 1 exotics on it.

 

[Vilam]

So what happens if I don't find a Hawkmoon until 9/15 or later? Will it be the Y2 Hawkmoon? Will that give me access to the Y1 Hawkmoon?

It'd drive me bonkers to have that hole in my collection.

Edit: worst top of page post in recent memory.

I immediately started wondering the exact same thing when they showed that.

 

[GhaleonEB]

So you guys are excited to have to grind marks to re-buy the exotics you already have and then have to level it up again? Oh and there is a chance that the exotic you like won't be in Year 2. How is this a good thing?

Cons: Need to re-level gear. Costs marks to acquire.

Pros. New talent trees. Exotic perk unlocked from the start. Exotics can be duped over to other characters on the account for marks. New exotics can be ascended, er, infused.

I think the pros of the system outweigh the cons by a hefty margin. It's annoying to re-level exotics, but the perk being unlocked from the start softens the blow, and new talents are the reward. It's basically a new gun.

 

[Scousefury]

He had a Monte Carlo year 1 blueprint yet no year 2 (which was also revealed yesterday). They said you have to find them.

Nope said you have immeidate access to them because you have the old one. he also did not have Monte Carlo just checked it back

 

[17 Seconds]

Obviously it's just there to gate progress and 'increase engagement.' There's no reason to decrease the limit so significantly and promote alt play in the manner they did.

It's not gating progress at all. I don't think you're understaning how it works. Literally the only negative to the system is that you can't stockpile marks, but I don't understand why you'd want to do that.

 

[TheTylerDurden]

I don't think Deejs remark on 'finding replacements for (weapon names here) and Gjallarhorn' was a mistake or a mis-step. They are warming us up for no year 2 version. And yeah, it may come, but seems like not right away.

 

[SenatorBot]

I guess we can guard now?

 

[mehrmantrout]

You guys can't go to the tower and buy something at ANY point while you are getting your 200 marks?

This complaint seems ridiculous.

I agree with a cap, just not across all characters - it's going to be a ridiculous grind to get armour/guns on all three characters

 

[xVaalbarAx]

Yeah, blocking sounds goddamned amazing.

There's needs to be a stream JUST for swords.

Parry with Swords pls.

 

[17 Seconds]

speak for yourself. sorry, i'm not happy with that one thing in their entire stream.

I haven't heard a logical reason of why the 200 mark cap would matter. Why would you want to save them? At the very least, you could be using them on legendary engrams to keep you under the limit.

 

[Klyka]

I guess we can guard now?

With the swords, yes.

Apparently the element your sword does is actually what it is weak guarding against. Interesting.

I agree with a cap, just not across all characters - it's going to be a ridiculous grind to get armour/guns on all three characters

It's...gonna be the same amount of marks regardless. There is no extra grind. If you need 2000 marks you need 2000 marks.
You just have to buy stuff with a couple pitstops instead of hoarding 2000 marks and buying all at the same time.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Cons: Need to re-level gear. Costs marks to acquire.

Pros. New talent trees. Exotic perk unlocked from the start. Exotics can be duped over to other characters on the account for marks. New exotics can be ascended, er, infused.

I think the pros of the system outweigh the cons by a hefty margin. It's annoying to re-level exotics, but the perk being unlocked from the start softens the blow, and new talents are the reward. It's basically a new gun.

So much this forever.

My REAL question though is if non upgradeable exotics are lost to time if I don't acquire them by 9.15.

 

[stb]

Cons: Need to re-level gear. Costs marks to acquire.

Pros. New talent trees. Exotic perk unlocked from the start. Exotics can be duped over to other characters on the account for marks. New exotics can be ascended, er, infused.

I think the pros of the system outweigh the cons by a hefty margin. It's annoying to re-level exotics, but the perk being unlocked from the start softens the blow, and new talents are the reward. It's basically a new gun.

Did I miss the "you have to re-level your old exotics" part? It looked to me like you only have to "re-level" the exotic if you "buy" a new copy of it from the collection.

 

[LiK]

Parry with Swords pls.

they should allow them to deflect rockets in PVP, lol

 

[everyday math]

I guess we can guard now?

*hyperventilates*

 

[Shito]

I agree with a cap, just not across all characters - it's going to be a ridiculous grind to get armour/guns on all three characters

Why's that?
You need to win those marks anyways, so you just have to spend them on one item at a time instead of stocking up on marks and buy everything in one go.
You will need the *same amount* of marks than if the cap was at like 9999.

 

[X-Frame]

My stream cut out here but is the Speaker selling the same class items he has always sold but now with perks?

 

[lt519]

Not necessarily. Some of those could be more Year 1s that are being carried forward. The account they were using certainly didn't have all the Year 1 exotics on it.

Ooooh misinterpreted the screen, he did have some grayed out. I guess they show all Year 1's regardless of whether you have them but not Year 2's.

 

[Kurumi]

Guys....the SWORD! Oh god I'm so excited.

Once I get it I'm going in. Idc

I love swords!

 

[NastyBook]

We've hit WarFrame territory now.

I tell you what, their faction headquarters SHIT on Destiny's from the greatest of heights.

 

[purg3]

Welp, definitely not buying any other games this year because I know they won't get played for some time once this drops.

 

[17 Seconds]

I agree with a cap, just not across all characters - it's going to be a ridiculous grind to get armour/guns on all three characters

No.

It will not affect that in any way. You buy each thing that you want right when you have enough marks, and you'll never hit the limit.

 

[zewone]

https://twitter.com/kungfusquirrel/status/632728799973474304

Holy shit. That is so bought. I might buy 2 just to have a back up shirt.

 

[Lunar FC]

Anybody else here avoiding as much Taken King / 2.0 details as possible? Just kinda want to explore some of that stuff myself.

 

[Lee]

I haven't heard a logical reason of why the 200 mark cap would matter. Why would you want to save them? At the very least, you could be using them on legendary engrams to keep you under the limit.

It will suck for new people who earn marks twice as fast but don't have the reputation with vendors to spend them. Other than that I see no downside.

 

[FyreWulff]

So much this forever.

My REAL question though is if non upgradeable exotics are lost to time if I don't acquire them by 9.15.

gonna take a wild guess and assume year 1 exotics are going to be in the Vault of Glass and Crota loot tables

 

[JohnOfMars]

The one big downside for me: no more genuine vanity items. Both ghosts, and more importantly, class items have perks now. So that awesome Honor of the Cormorant I wear sometimes, I now have to decide if it's better to look good or to have good perks.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Welp, definitely not buying any other games this year because I know they won't get played for some time once this drops.

See you spaceside, guardian

 

[xVaalbarAx]

they should allow them to deflect rockets in PVP, lol

Oh my god that sounds amazing. BUNGIE PLS.

 

[lt519]

Anybody else here avoiding as much Taken King / 2.0 details as possible? Just kinda want to explore some of that stuff myself.

I wanted to know Quality of Life stuff so I could prepare characters if needed. Some quick tips picked up on like stockpiling Heavy Ammo and Mats might be useful. Avoiding anything Patrol, Strike or Raid related.

 

[deoee]

G-Horn Year 2 blueprint will require you to beat Oryx solo

With fists

 

[purg3]

Holy shit. That is so bought. I might buy 2 just to have a back up shirt.

It's for the bungie pentathalon. doubt it's being sold, but I'd love to be wrong. I want that bad lol.

 

[LiK]

Anybody else here avoiding as much Taken King / 2.0 details as possible? Just kinda want to explore some of that stuff myself.

not really. i need to know the info. it's useful when we transition to TTK

 

[Twilight Gap]

ahah yeah thats some over priced shit right there.. smh.

don't think they said those were the DLC dances (although it wouldn't be surprising).

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Holy shit. That is so bought. I might buy 2 just to have a back up shirt.

Are they buyable?

 

[purg3]

See you spaceside, guardian

fist bump

 

[Klyka]

It will suck for new people who earn marks twice as fast but don't have the reputation with vendors to spend them. Other than that I see no downside.

You seem to be able to trade in all kinds of stuff for rep now and i feel quests/bounties will give some decent rep.
Marks can be turned in for rep too if you have them but lack the rep level.

 

[Lee]

Preparing for TTK checklist:

1. Buy upgrade materials from quartermasters.
2. Buy heavy ammo from Xur.
3. Don't dismantle things

What else am I missing?

 

[Lnkn52]

This looks freaken bad ass! Are they selling this anywhere?

Tweet @ the guy and maybe it will happen.