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[TheAquaticApe]

So KF HM is more difficult. The drops are ok. Seems like we will be playing HM longer before it's on "farm" and or before we get to 320.

 

[zewone]

If it's not harrowed then it's a Nm drop. Do harrowed drop at 310?

Yes. 310-320 drops.

 

[Afrocious]

So KF HM is more difficult. The drops are ok. Seems like we will be playing HM longer before it's on "farm".

Disagree. HM will be on farm piss fast.

 

[Owensboro]

The all newbie King's Fall raid is almost in dire straights, Destiny GAF. Does anyone else want to come around 930PM est? No experience required! Totally need 290 light thought.
We had two drop.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Hard mode ain't shit. It's just a light level difference that makes it hard.

 

[k1t4j]

So wait, we should do normal before HM? based on what people are saying here?

 

[Hoffelcopter]

Called it quits at Oryx. Not enough light to stay alive.

313 Fusion that I put into my Spindle
313 LMG
311 Chest Piece.
307 Shotgun
307 Class item.

Still at 310. I think you need to be around 313 to get out of red level numbers. I was getting one shot by the ship and two shot by those acolyte eyes.

 

[Kyoufu]

So KF HM is more difficult. The drops are ok. Seems like we will be playing HM longer before it's on "farm" and or before we get to 320.

It's already on farm.

 

[LiK]

Disagree. HM will be on farm piss fast.

Up for another run tonight?

 

[Namikaze1]

My Titan with the weapons and ghost on her is 312.

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

congrats guys, good job

 

[realcZk]

Hard mode ain't shit. It's just a light level difference that makes it hard.

harrowed mode*

 

[NarcissisticJay]

305 work for HM?

 

[brianjones]

has anyone above 310 decrypted exotic egrams yet

 

[SeanR1221]

Hard mode ain't shit. It's just a light level difference that makes it hard.

This is what I figured would Happen. People were making the goofiest predictions that would straight up break the game.

 

[ich00]

The all newbie King's Fall raid is almost in dire straights, Destiny GAF. Does anyone else want to come around 930PM est? No experience required! Totally need 290 light thought.
We had two drop.

I'm not a newbie but can help out if you need a body.

 

[DrDrizzay101]

Just finished first Heroic KF, my impressions:

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It sucks. Not a single meaningful new mechanic, feels almost identical to NM except for being strongly under-leveled. It's the exact opposite of what they said in the Weekly Update yesterday. And the loot drops are just as bad as NM or worse.

 

[gotstrangepowers]

Has anyone here at 310+ used exotic engrams to see if they'll go over 310?

 

[commish]

Just finished first Heroic KF, my impressions:

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It sucks. Not a single meaningful new mechanic, feels almost identical to NM except for being strongly under-leveled. It's the exact opposite of what they said in the Weekly Update yesterday. And the loot drops are just as bad as NM or worse.

Color me shocked

Oh well.

 

[purg3]

Just finished first Heroic KF, my impressions:

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It sucks. Not a single meaningful new mechanic, feels almost identical to NM except for being strongly under-leveled. It's the exact opposite of what they said in the Weekly Update yesterday. And the loot drops are just as bad as NM or worse.

sounds about right

 

[inthrall]

Just finished first Heroic KF, my impressions:

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It sucks. Not a single meaningful new mechanic, feels almost identical to NM except for being strongly under-leveled. It's the exact opposite of what they said in the Weekly Update yesterday. And the loot drops are just as bad as NM or worse.

Agreed, I didn't find many differences, and the last boss is only hard because most of my group is at 309 (meaning orange enemies)

 

[xplicitone]

Has anyone here at 310+ used exotic engrams to see if they'll go over 310?

has anyone above 310 decrypted exotic egrams yet

Someone on unstable's stream said they do not.

 

[LiK]

Just finished first Heroic KF, my impressions:

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It sucks. Not a single meaningful new mechanic, feels almost identical to NM except for being strongly under-leveled. It's the exact opposite of what they said in the Weekly Update yesterday. And the loot drops are just as bad as NM or worse.

I'm glad. Easy trophy.

 

[Night Angel]

Has anyone here at 310+ used exotic engrams to see if they'll go over 310?

A reddit thread where people tested this ended with no 320 exotics, but no 290s either.

 

[Lnkn52]

Color me shocked

Oh well.

Just finished first Heroic KF, my impressions:

Spoiler

It sucks. Not a single meaningful new mechanic, feels almost identical to NM except for being strongly under-leveled. It's the exact opposite of what they said in the Weekly Update yesterday. And the loot drops are just as bad as NM or worse.

But they took off the checkpoint from the ship jumping puzzle.

 

[spyder_ur]

Just finished first Heroic KF, my impressions:

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It sucks. Not a single meaningful new mechanic, feels almost identical to NM except for being strongly under-leveled. It's the exact opposite of what they said in the Weekly Update yesterday. And the loot drops are just as bad as NM or worse.

Ha, you know I couldn't tell from the stream how you felt...

 

[gotstrangepowers]

Just finished first Heroic KF, my impressions:

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It sucks. Not a single meaningful new mechanic, feels almost identical to NM except for being strongly under-leveled. It's the exact opposite of what they said in the Weekly Update yesterday. And the loot drops are just as bad as NM or worse.

There are 3 changes and they're pretty minor lol

 

[EL CUCO]

But they took off the checkpoint from the ship jumping puzzle.

Hard mode confirmed

 

[Namikaze1]

Congrats to your team! Post results Image please.

here you go

 

[SheHateMe]

The all newbie King's Fall raid is almost in dire straights, Destiny GAF. Does anyone else want to come around 930PM est? No experience required! Totally need 290 light thought.
We had two drop.

I'm not new, but if you need a body, I'll fill in a spot.

 

[Hoffelcopter]

Just finished first Heroic KF, my impressions:

Spoiler

It sucks. Not a single meaningful new mechanic, feels almost identical to NM except for being strongly under-leveled. It's the exact opposite of what they said in the Weekly Update yesterday. And the loot drops are just as bad as NM or worse.

Spoiler

The only new mechanic are the Knights pm Oryx.

 

[Lnkn52]

here you go

Thanks Nami, I meant the one with the deaths and your group light level, if you have it of course.

 

[xplicitone]

Well, I missed out on a blind raid at release. I was busy fighting 343's crappy coop system for Halo 2 via MCC. We finally got a mission to work and since mission after mission kept working, we had to keep it going.

But hard mode sounds pretty frustrating for most people.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

But they took off the checkpoint from the ship jumping puzzle.

They literally added a timegate to people that die during the ship part. That is the literal new mechanic. The people who make it, have to wait for the person who died. A literal time gate mechanic.

Luke, explain yourself.

 

[KanameYuuki]

Agreed, I didn't find many differences, and the last boss is only hard because most of my group is at 309 (meaning orange enemies)

Yep, we are having the same problem. I am sitting at 311 and it feels just like normal but with extra knights.

 

[plantedunicorn]

The all newbie King's Fall raid is almost in dire straights, Destiny GAF. Does anyone else want to come around 930PM est? No experience required! Totally need 290 light thought.
We had two drop.

Hey I've never done the raid before and I'd be down to try it. I'm on PS4, psn is voa127. I'm willing to try it out if it's tonight. I'm at 293 light. Can probably move things around to get to 296/

 

[BokehKing]

The all newbie King's Fall raid is almost in dire straights, Destiny GAF. Does anyone else want to come around 930PM est? No experience required! Totally need 290 light thought.
We had two drop.

I need to go to this but I'll have company over unfortunately

 

[gotstrangepowers]

Spoiler

The only new mechanic are the Knights pm Oryx.

Spoiler

and Golg unstable light bomb thing

 

[StoneHeart]

Just finished first Heroic KF, my impressions:

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It sucks. Not a single meaningful new mechanic, feels almost identical to NM except for being strongly under-leveled. It's the exact opposite of what they said in the Weekly Update yesterday. And the loot drops are just as bad as NM or worse.

Welcome to Destiny

 

[VE3TRO]

Anyone wanna Nightfall on Xbox? Looking for 1 more.

 

[LiK]

They literally added a timegate to people that die during the ship part. That is the literal new mechanic. The people who make it, have to wait for the person who died. A literal time gate mechanic.

Luke, explain yourself.

No time...

Anyway, that sounds annoying.

 

[Kyoufu]

Just finished first Heroic KF, my impressions:

Spoiler

It sucks. Not a single meaningful new mechanic, feels almost identical to NM except for being strongly under-leveled. It's the exact opposite of what they said in the Weekly Update yesterday. And the loot drops are just as bad as NM or worse.

This is how I feel too.

Totally underwhelming.

 

[inthrall]

They literally added a timegate to people that die during the ship part. That is the literal new mechanic. The people who make it, have to wait for the person who died. A literal time gate mechanic.

Luke, explain yourself.

Its not timegated if nobody dies

 

[BokehKing]

They literally added a timegate to people that die during the ship part. That is the literal new mechanic. The people who make it, have to wait for the person who died. A literal time gate mechanic.

Luke, explain yourself.

It was never added, it was simply always there
But removed for normal mode


#raidlogic

 

[SenatorBot]

Anyone running a fresh KF HM?

I want to get loot on my alt.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Its not timegated if nobody dies

Yeah. It's complete shit. All the bosses, are the same damn thing. Oryx is the only one with a meaningful difference. It's a complete joke they said 'OH WE MADE HARD MODE FIRST AND TONED IT DOWN'. It's bullshit, it's a goddamn joke.

 

[VE3TRO]

here you go

You are the 0.1%. ;p

 

[TheAquaticApe]

Just finished first Heroic KF, my impressions:

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It sucks. Not a single meaningful new mechanic, feels almost identical to NM except for being strongly under-leveled. It's the exact opposite of what they said in the Weekly Update yesterday. And the loot drops are just as bad as NM or worse.

Love. LOVE. LOVE! Everything you guys' are saying on stream post Oryx kill.

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

Just finished first Heroic KF, my impressions:

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It sucks. Not a single meaningful new mechanic, feels almost identical to NM except for being strongly under-leveled. It's the exact opposite of what they said in the Weekly Update yesterday. And the loot drops are just as bad as NM or worse.

feel your pain.. drops have been ridiculously bad and the oryx mechanic is just a dick move

 

[JohnOfMars]

Just finished first Heroic KF, my impressions:

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It sucks. Not a single meaningful new mechanic, feels almost identical to NM except for being strongly under-leveled. It's the exact opposite of what they said in the Weekly Update yesterday. And the loot drops are just as bad as NM or worse.

Thanks for your impressions. Was waiting on yours since we see eye to eye on Normal mode. Bummer.