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[MandrakeUK]

That makes 6 then.

Let's go.

Thats including Kitaj right?

 

[Vincent Alexander]

calling it at oryx

good games everyone - sentinal, btk, ipity, kudouz and liam

unless you're 311 the dps penalty is way too high

it's forever #29 all over again, get lucky with drops till oryx and rely on rng to push you beyond 310

so very disappointed.

My fear is that it will be a damn near requirement to have Touch of Malice on most of team to stagger him.

 

[Homeboyd]

calling it at oryx

good games everyone - sentinal, btk, ipity, kudouz and liam

unless you're 311 the dps penalty is way too high

it's forever #29 all over again, get lucky with drops till oryx and rely on rng to push you beyond 310

so very disappointed.

Oh well that sucks. Guess I'll be running 3x to Daughters for about 13 weeks until I hit 311! 308 now.

 

[MrAnderson]

My fear is that it will be a damn near requirement to have Touch of Malice on most of team to stagger him.

To be fair, getting ToM isn't really that hard...just boring and time consuming.

 

[gotstrangepowers]

My fear is that it will be a damn near requirement to have Touch of Malice on most of team to stagger him.

Drizz's team staggered him with 4 players

 

[brianjones]

This is unconfirmed. Bungie has said nothing about whether power in the 310-320 range will affect PvP.



Not really.

In year 1 if you had a super high attack power weapon then it would do massively more damage to year 1 enemies, this is still the case with year 1 enemies. Everyone can easily one cycle Atheon now for example.

In year 2, it appears that if you are 10 light levels over your enemy and you have weapons which are 10 attack over your enemies level then you do "maximum damage" to that enemy... so having a 320 attack primary in a 280 NF does no more damage than having the same weapon at 290 attack...

...at least that's the way I have understood light level damage calculations from reading people who tested these things on Reddit.

i don't remember that being the case.. i thought the damage was capped as long as you were equal light to the enemy

thats why people were frustrated about being under leveled in hard crota and skolas.. it wasn't the attack value of the weapons

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

My fear is that it will be a damn near requirement to have Touch of Malice on most of team to stagger him.

we had 6 with 310 ToM's and with iWoL we could barely stagger him, plus there is so little time to kill the light eater knights after ogres

 

[Jafku]

hoo boy.

 

[TheAquaticApe]

Oryx down <3

Yes!

What level did you start? What level did you beat Oryx at?

Sounds like 308+ is good for everything and Oryx requires 311+?

 

[MrS]

Okay, here's the full pic:

What light level were you all at? Congrats on the kill. We come undone at Oryx

 

[JohnOfMars]

Anyone up for a NORMAL King's Fall tonight (PSN)? I'm thinking around 9-10pm? I'm experienced, but I have one player who's never done Daughters/Oryx.

1. JohnOfMars
2. John's friend
3.
4.
5.
6.

 

[2real4tv]

Need one for HM at pre warpriest

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

Talk about underwhelming. Whew.

 

[Future PhaZe]

we had 6 with 310 ToM's and with iWoL we could barely stagger him, plus there is so little time to kill the light eater knights after ogres

light levels?

 

[babyghost853]

Need one for HM at pre warpriest

I'll go, psn babyghost853

 

[Jblanks]

What's the best area to kill majors with a shotgun for the Chaperone quest ?

 

[DrDrizzay101]

Spoiler

The only new mechanic are the Knights pm Oryx.

Spoiler

That's not a new mechanic, that's a new add spawn. The "Light Eater" mechanic was already with the Ogres in NM.

Differences in HM

Tomb Ships:

Spoiler

Removed the middle "checkpoint" platform so if you die you start all the way over. Fun.

Totems:

Spoiler

Some Knights are Majors. Didn't notice anything else. This is an add change, not a mechanic

Warpriest:

Spoiler

Boss does the Taken Hobgoblin "Retaliation Swarm" attack. Not a mechanic, not even a new attack, just transferring an existing attack to a boss.

Golgoroth:

Spoiler

Only legit new mechanic- One person gets "Unstable Light" debuff when standing in the Radiant Light pool and has to jump out or else it will blow everyone up. Using one orb strat is 100% viable.

Daughters:

Spoiler

The next "Hymn of Unweaving" song starts immediately after the previous one ends, there's no downtime anymore to clear adds or prep. Didn't notice anything else. That's pacing, not a mechanic.

Oryx:

Spoiler

Light Eater Knights spawn in addition to the Light Eater Ogres. We're super under-leveled. Add spawn change, not mechanical.

Might have missed some other small differences but that's all I can think of now.

 

[DarKshodaN]

Don't know if today is someone interested in it, but i give it a try before i go sleep.

So i need a Team who can quickly Kill Oryx in the normal raid with me, i have a Oryx Checkpoint and know the mechanics, my other Team was to weak to beat Oryx.

Would be nice to get it done today.

1. DarKshodaN84 (LvL 305)
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.

 

[bitsurugi]

Yes!

What level did you start? What level did you beat Oryx at?

Sounds like 308+ is good for everything and Oryx requires 311+?

Ty, gratz to you and your group as well from my part <3

Our group was 308-309. 310 weapons.

We literally one shot all up to Orys, we started 30 mins after release and lost 30 mins to random DC error of one of our members.

Only hard part was Oryx, but not due to dps, but mostly due to surviving shit& stuff. Definitelly gona be a hard part for most of the groups, since you can ''feel''' the light penalty.

 

[Namikaze1]

What light level were you all at? Congrats on the kill. We come undone at Oryx

I was 311

The rest but unstable were 310 while unstable was 309.

 

[xplicitone]

I totally want to raid right now. Too bad I have to go to an event.

I can't believe 310 is the low range of hard mode haha.

Also... It's impossible to be 320 since there seems to be no artifact.

 

[brianjones]

Tomb Ships:

Spoiler

Removed the middle "checkpoint" platform so if you die you start all the way over. Fun.

yeesh

is it even worth the risk for that chest anymore? idk

oh wait does HM even drop smouldering shards?

disappointing that the 1 gazer scrub strategy for Golgoroth is viable

 

[silver.tongue]

Stuck at work all day. Missed hard mode hype completelly. Whats new about hard mode?

 

[Kor of Memory]

What are the odds there is an exotic weapon that can drop from Oryx at a very small chance, and is probably time gated until next week?

 

[E92 M3]

calling it at oryx

good games everyone - sentinal, btk, ipity, kudouz and liam

unless you're 311 the dps penalty is way too high

it's forever #29 all over again, get lucky with drops till oryx and rely on rng to push you beyond 310

so very disappointed.

Well we discussed the RNG penalties before, but I think it's feasible with lower light.

 

[Zocano]

1spot for HM at Daughters of Oryx

PSN is Zocano

What are the odds there is an exotic weapon that can drop from Oryx at a very small chance, and is probably time gated until next week?

I imagine we get something neat with all calcified fragments.

 

[loki 16]

Anyone up for a NORMAL King's Fall tonight (PSN)? I'm thinking around 9-10pm? I'm experienced, but I have one player who's never done Daughters/Oryx.

1. JohnOfMars
2. John's friend
3.
4.
5.
6.

I can do it my PSN is futbol_dude77

 

[brianjones]

I'm doubtful about another new exotic since the kiosk seems to be full at this point

wasn't there always space for the "hidden" exotics?

i guess theres no space for the twilight garrison either though.. or the other Y2 gear shown on bungie armory

 

[xplicitone]

I imagine we get something neat with all calcified fragments.

Yea, a +10 light upgrade material for Touch of Malice &#128514;

Spoiler

after beating fears embrace on heroic 280

 

[mehrmantrout]

yeesh

is it even worth the risk for that chest anymore? idk

oh wait does HM even drop smouldering shards?

disappointing that the 1 gazer scrub strategy for Golgoroth is viable

You still spawn at the far end if you die after making it across, only 2 Shards is still a thing (even if you haven't done NM)

 

[Zocano]

I'm doubtful about another new exotic since the kiosk seems to be full at this point

wasn't there always space for the "hidden" exotics?

The kiosk slots seem to come and go it looks like so using that as your barometer seems pointless?

 

[Kor of Memory]

I'm doubtful about another new exotic since the kiosk seems to be full at this point

wasn't there always space for the "hidden" exotics?

i guess theres no space for the twilight garrison either though.. or the other Y2 gear shown on bungie armory

Well, my heavy weapons used to only have 5 slots. Truth, Thunderlord, and the swords.

Sleeper Simulant added a 6th after I got the weapon.

 

[BahamutPT]

What the fuck Bungie?

 

[blackflag]

calling it at oryx

good games everyone - sentinal, btk, ipity, kudouz and liam

unless you're 311 the dps penalty is way too high

it's forever #29 all over again, get lucky with drops till oryx and rely on rng to push you beyond 310

so very disappointed.

This happened to us. I just don't think we have the dps most were at 209 and me and another got to 310.

 

[brianjones]

Well, my heavy weapons used to only have 5 slots. Truth, Thunderlord, and the swords.

Sleeper Simulant added a 6th after I got the weapon.

that went into the special tier

there was always a space for it

 

[Strangelove77]

So you guys can get your Touch of Malice up to 320 now. Worth it.

 

[Kor of Memory]

that went into the special tier

there was always a space for it

I'm telling you right now, my sleeper simulant blueprint is under the heavy section.

 

[Liquidsnake]

I put a HM raid for Xbros on "the 100"

Im only 306, so if my light is too low; then let me know. Ill scrap it and put a NM up.

 

[Collateral22]

Spoiler

That's not a new mechanic, that's a new add spawn. The "Light Eater" mechanic was already with the Ogres in NM.

Differences in HM

Tomb Ships:

Spoiler

Removed the middle "checkpoint" platform so if you die you start all the way over. Fun.

Totems:

Spoiler

Some Knights are Majors. Didn't notice anything else. This is an add change, not a mechanic

Warpriest:

Spoiler

Boss does the Taken Hobgoblin "Retaliation Swarm" attack. Not a mechanic, not even a new attack, just transferring an existing attack to a boss.

Golgoroth:

Spoiler

Only legit new mechanic- One person gets "Unstable Light" debuff when standing in the Radiant Light pool and has to jump out or else it will blow everyone up. Using one orb strat is 100% viable.

Daughters:

Spoiler

The next "Hymn of Unweaving" song starts immediately after the previous one ends, there's no downtime anymore to clear adds or prep. Didn't notice anything else. That's pacing, not a mechanic.

Oryx:

Spoiler

Light Eater Knights spawn in addition to the Light Eater Ogres. We're super under-leveled. Add spawn change, not mechanical.

Might have missed some other small differences but that's all I can think of now.

That's very disappointing. Everything in gaming is letting me down today. First Halo 5, now this. Literally thought they would really spice things up since that's how they talked about it.

 

[BananasWithGuns]

Hey, sorry if this is another dumb question since I'm still wrapping my head around all this.

I'm sitting on three exotic shards from old duplicate year 1 exotics I had lying around and I was wondering, would it be worth spending these to infuse a 280 Truth or should I save them for other stuff later on down the line?

 

[xplicitone]

That's very disappointing. Everything in gaming is letting me down today. First Halo 5, now this. Literally thought they would really spice things up since that's how they talked about it.

Why is halo 5 letting you down today?

 

[brianjones]

I'm telling you right now, my sleeper simulant blueprint is under the heavy section.

did they change it? i could have sworn it was under special at one point maybe I'm wrong

 

[Strangelove77]

What the fuck Bungie?

That's the worst thing I've ever seen.

 

[Lee]

That's very disappointing. Everything in gaming is letting me down today. First Halo 5, now this. Literally thought they would really spice things up since that's how they talked about it.

What Halo 5 let down did I miss!?

 

[MrAnderson]

That's very disappointing. Everything in gaming is letting me down today. First Halo 5, now this. Literally thought they would really spice things up since that's how they talked about it.

How did Halo 5 let you down? I'm contemplating getting an Xbone for it.

 

[Kyne]

What the fuck Bungie?

sir

sir your head

 

[FStop7]

What the fuck Bungie?

I'M A FIRESTARTER
TWISTED FIRESTARTER
YEAH

 

[Kor of Memory]

did they change it? i could have sworn it was under special at one point maybe I'm wrong

They showed it under the special slot before launch. It was one of the images I dissected trying to determine what exotics made the jump to year 2, and what weapon types were left.

Basically this image: http://i.imgur.com/qWLo7RE.jpg

But you can tell by the year 1 primaries this isn't the final build.

 

[Zocano]

Hard Mode is disappointing.

They really need to not be restricted by the geometry of a fight. But given how the news about how restrictive their tools are, I doubt that will ever change (unless they just have a completely reworked raid for hard mode).

 

[E92 M3]

What the fuck Bungie?

ROFL

We all know Titans are the kings of shaders, though.