This sums it up perfectly. I miss Y1 Trials, elemental primaries, NFs worth doing, feeling overpowered.
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Destiny |OT39| Tainted Love
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This sums it up perfectly. I miss Y1 Trials, elemental primaries, NFs worth doing, feeling overpowered.
Rollo Tomasi
Member
It sure ain't Destiny.
They need better weapons, I still think it's a huge mistake no elemental primaries.
They also need to redo the perks, Some of the perks introduced are great but there are a decent number of lousy perks.
But are we being fair here though? I mean, we will re-raid in hopes of finding a Smite with Firefly. Oh wait let me do Court because I need a 299 weapon because my light's too low.
I'm not saying you're wrong, because you're not, but we will farm for a Grasp or a solar cloak or Int/Dis whatever they are because of that slightly miniscule difference in stats. Trout playing the same pvp matches against red bars for months trying to get the better Party Crasher roll.
Division has multiple weapon mods (a la perks). While I doubt we'll be farming for a Grasp in NYC, how different is getting a slightly better weapon or armor piece than a 289 ghost shell or fusion rifle at the end of a Nightfall?
And I don't mean that one perk isn't better than the other. Ikkarus and vacuum.
But I mean "getting the slightly better" idea is what we do in Destiny once we have the exotics we want and so on.
Misterthirsty
Member
For pve at least this idea that a perk needs a trade off needs to go.
Rollo Tomasi
Member
Or its a bug that they will get around to fixing maybe in Y3.
noomi
Member
Love it
I am completely biased though, I've been hyping the game for myself since the first E3 showing. Even if it sucks, I am blind to it.
Enjoying it very much.
Jinjo
Member
Exotics were more meaningful in Y1 too. For sure in the beginning. Stuff like Suros, Hawkmoon, Icebreaker and dare I say Gjallarhorn. Yeah some were OP, but exotics should be somewhat OP. Exotics were actually better than most legendaries back then, not anymore. In addtion, raid weapons were one of the best legendaries for each of their gun archetype. As it should be. Meaningful rewards for the most difficult challenge in the game. The only weird design choice was giving raid primary legendaries elemental damage, but not exotic weapons.
A difficult balance to strike for sure, but I liked the Y1 exotic balance better.
I need to do CM 3x or however many spots open up. So list me as an alt at least.
Pandora012
Member
Haha. What's the story here? I've raided with Jaf before. What did he do?
Don't worry, you will see.
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mehrmantrout
Member
Me feetie and Darknyss are playing Zone Control if anyone wants to join us
have a defender titan in your fireteam for the defend the warsat part, makes it far easier. Kill the first wave of enemies, wait till you are at 50% or so and then pop the bubble behind the warsat.
The rest is pretty straight forward.
I make fun of her. That's itHaha. What's the story here? I've raided with Jaf before. What did he do?
I don't steal loot. Just borrow it indefinitelyKnowing jafku, he stole all the loot
It's definitely something that makes it seem like no one there plays their own game.
one problem I encountered in the beta is just how ordinary everything seemed.
There was nothing special happening anywhere, ordinary people shooting ordinary guns at other ordinary people.
That and the idea of just being stuck in NYC for the duration of the game's life span is not appealing at all.
It looks stunning though if a bit lacking in art direction
xplicitone
Member
L A G S W I T C H B O Y Z
haha yea I've seen that happen as well, like what the. Makes it worse.
I see your point Colonel, but using Firefly to shoot a thrall triggering a cursed thrall behind it into a beautiful fiery green inferno is freaking awesome.
I guess it all comes down to my core issues and dissatisfaction with the shooting and controls/movement, and the fact that the setting and associated enemies in the Division grounds that to an extent that (thus far, I am admittedly very early) really limits the game. Basically, finding a better SCar that kills yet another bullet sponge enemy in 5 less bullets from behind cover isn't that satisfying to me. Planting a perfect sticky bomb into a group of firefighter enemies just to see them shake it off isn't as satisfying as it should be.
I feel like I'm coming off more negative on the game than I really feel. I like it and think it does some cool stuff. I should probably limit some of my critiques until I unlock more gear and skills - I'm really hoping that stuff opens up a bit late game.
I can't believe they didn't include Central Park, I can already tell some green would have been a nice change of pace.
Kalamari
Member
I'm really enjoying The Division so far. I think my favorite parts are the side missions, especially the ones that require you to navigate the rooftops, scratches that spacial knowledge itch I have.
Also, Erotic Sushi wrecks face at this game, even when he is a level below me.
Oh, and I really enjoy the Dark Zone, it scratches that other itch I have, world pvp.
Also, Erotic Sushi wrecks face at this game, even when he is a level below me.
Oh, and I really enjoy the Dark Zone, it scratches that other itch I have, world pvp.
Pick me up when you can. I'm up early, FARK!
I'm with ya. I get it. Nothing feels like the shooting in Destiny. I'm there too. But our talk of bullet sponges makes me think about Valus, or Archon Priest, or annoying captains with overshields. The games are just different.
I am not Division defense force, I just see the fun that each game can be. We grind, we level up, we mod our guns, who knows what the exotic variants will look like, and we shoot each other or npcs. But with GAF, that equals fun.
SUSHI!
TheAquaticApe
Member
Yup. Can confirm. That's Sushi.
House of Wolves was my personal favorite time when it comes to Destiny's loot system. You still had guns that really felt special and you could bring up old faves with etheric light. I could wear whatever I wanted thanks to etheric light as well. Shells and class items were cosmetic. What a time.
Agent_Tiro
Member
If only we had an etheric light substitute for TTK. If each week you could get an item that is guaranteed to improve an items light level +1 then everyone would have that sense of control over their progress and able to level up what they want
IMO, it's just generally more fun to play the actual game in Destiny than The Division. Ignoring all of the other shit that's hooked onto either game, Destiny is just more fun.
Even if you're engaging in some sort of miserable grind to the get the perfect weapon roll, you can always go back to something fun. Everything I did in The Division beta felt bland, because the core game, to me, is bland.
Bungie listened to the people crying about Gjallarhorn and took it up 100 notches lol.
Raven117
Gold Member
I mean, I dig it. It doesn't feel as fluid as Destiny does in the run, jump, shoot context, but the missions are challenging (especially on hard), and you do have to think about abilities, flanking, strategies far more than in a run of the mill destiny mission. Its def more of the RPG side of this Shooter/RPG/MMO type genre. Destiny is more SHOOTER that the RPG or MMO side of it.
The two really have very VERY different feels when its all said and done.
For me, a solid coop to shoot bad guys is all I need to enjoy a game like this and get my money's worth.
Xeno agree on the fun or the feel (see my 2nd post)
I felt the DZ was really tense and fun though
Agent_Tiro
Member
I've always thought of destiny as a shooter with rpg elements
I get the impression that the division is an rpg with shooter elements
I get the impression that the division is an rpg with shooter elements
Raven117
Gold Member
This.
I have to read TWO posts? You ask too much!
xplicitone
Member
Well these days, you don't have to really scroll that much to read them hahaha.
Destiny is for casual gamers looking for an mmo-type shooter. A few RPG elements here and there but nothing crazy.
Division is a tactical cover-based shooter with a lot more depth in terms of RPG elements and customization options.
Both play really different and I know I'll be pumping in a ton of hours into the division as well.
Division is a tactical cover-based shooter with a lot more depth in terms of RPG elements and customization options.
Both play really different and I know I'll be pumping in a ton of hours into the division as well.
Filthy Casuals
xplicitone
Member
Yea, I still like to play the Daily PvP (2x) just to get to keep my skills somewhat there. And definitely will be in full force when the Spring update arrives. And if there's a good trials map.
They're fairly different indeed. I don't really see the replayability to go anywhere near Destiny, as some people in the Div OT suggests. Personally, I enjoy PvP, especially when there's tiny to no lag, and I can do that anytime I want, for as long as I want. I don't see that being the case for Division. Once the content runs out then it'll be pretty much done until the DLC, which I'm perfectly fine with.
In terms of casuals, I disagree with that. There are a TON of hardcore, which is basically everyone that's still here today.
Here's mine for example:
1232h - 262h deleted (RIP MY MAIN WARLOCK, SUPER SAD FACE)
Makes up 7 weeks 2 days 8 hours 47 minutes 32 seconds.
6 active and 1 deleted characters.
Also Destiny has Classes, meaning more chars. Division, only 1 char and I don't see the need for more chars. Which means for Destiny, if you do PvE, some things are done 3x haha.
mehrmantrout
Member
The GAF zone control train continues undefeated, 9/9 today. According to Destinytracker I'm top 200. Come at me bros
GGs, Feetie, Darknyss, Id and Victim
GGs, Feetie, Darknyss, Id and Victim
Puts arm around Xeno - it'll be ok!
lolSee the X man cometh to the rescue
We will. I still like playing Destiny a lot!
Scrubby Filthy Casuals
Word yo.
Darknyss09
Member
GGs as usual Trout.
Guardian.gg has me at #299 which is pretty funny. Most of the Leaderboard has under 100 games played -- Maybe they should have it more often?!
Zone Control would be the only thing that would get me to play the next IB.
TheAquaticApe
Member
How are the connections today? Less lag then yesterday?
xplicitone
Member
Also, way too many thorns in "Casual" PvP.
I was watching Gen-e-us do sweaties yesterday. They kept barely losing and he inevitably took out a Thorn to even the playing field.
I thought they banned that gun from sweaties?
I was watching Gen-e-us do sweaties yesterday. They kept barely losing and he inevitably took out a Thorn to even the playing field.
I thought they banned that gun from sweaties?
Destiny GAF community is clearly not causal- which is why we hold bungie to such high standards around communication and content. We're also quick to identify BS when we hear it.
I've clocked in disgusting amounts of hours in destiny and will continue to do so once bungie returns from lunch. Divison is more in line with Diablo 3 in terms of loot/ skill trees/ etc. Ubi seems like they absorbed more from Blizzard than Bungie when it comes to this department.
Again-- love destiny, but I'm glad the division will (hopefully) force bungie to do things better.
I've clocked in disgusting amounts of hours in destiny and will continue to do so once bungie returns from lunch. Divison is more in line with Diablo 3 in terms of loot/ skill trees/ etc. Ubi seems like they absorbed more from Blizzard than Bungie when it comes to this department.
Again-- love destiny, but I'm glad the division will (hopefully) force bungie to do things better.
mehrmantrout
Member
Looking at my game history (42 total) its only been up 4/5 times which is stupid as its by far the best 6v6 mode
Much better we still had the occasional lagger but I don't think they'll ever be able to eradicate that. The other teams may have hated us though as our team was UK, US, Singapore and Australia :d
DrDrizzay101
Member
The Thorn sweaty ban lasted for like 12 seconds. FeelsBadMan
EsotericManiac
Banned
maybe his specific circle but they definitely did not ban thorn from sweaties
TheAquaticApe
Member
Good to hear. I am excited to check out Trials this weekend and see how the connections fair.
xplicitone
Member
I said it last night and I'll say it again:
I got booted out of a "strike" on Division during the Boss Fight with an error, and when I logged back into I automatically got put back in.
Destiny NEEDS to add that. Destiny also needs to hold your spot in PvP, whether it's Trials or any matchmade playlist.
--Trials, that spot should be yours for the duration of that match. You should be able to rejoin so long as it's the same character (even if you pick a different character, you're missing at least 1 or 2 crucial rounds, so this part can even be debateable).
--Matchmade, that spot should be yours for maybe a minute so it can't get scooped by a random so quickly.
Or, they can differentiate between leaving manually and getting kicked out, so if you left manually, your spot wouldn't be held for a minute or whatever number seems to be the best to hold it.
I got booted out of a "strike" on Division during the Boss Fight with an error, and when I logged back into I automatically got put back in.
Destiny NEEDS to add that. Destiny also needs to hold your spot in PvP, whether it's Trials or any matchmade playlist.
--Trials, that spot should be yours for the duration of that match. You should be able to rejoin so long as it's the same character (even if you pick a different character, you're missing at least 1 or 2 crucial rounds, so this part can even be debateable).
--Matchmade, that spot should be yours for maybe a minute so it can't get scooped by a random so quickly.
Or, they can differentiate between leaving manually and getting kicked out, so if you left manually, your spot wouldn't be held for a minute or whatever number seems to be the best to hold it.
Krugerrandman
Banned
That can and will be so easily manipulated.