They're both totally different games.
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Destiny |OT41| Don't Worry, Leave Happy
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xplicitone
Member
Hmm
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I used to feel the same
TheAquaticApe
Member
Yeah, I acknowledged that.
Both games have gunplay so I think there's room for comparison despite them both being two different genres.
I'm not saying UC4 is a bad game by any means.
But, having played so much Destiny, I am taken back when guns and shooting mechanics don't feel the same even in a TPS.
Edit: This post is more about clarification of my original post. By comparison, that one has a rude drive by feeling to it. Please know I am not trying offend. I appreciate you challenging the idea, because, even clarified it's still a bit silly to compare them. Trust me, I know
What has changed since then for you?
mehrmantrout
Member
Just buy TTK retail, you could probably grab it for 30 euros now
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Destiny is Fast, tight, and I'm sure if I played it now I'd get back into it. It's just that the systems surrounding them didn't do it for me. I'd love to play Destiny more, but everything surrounding it doesn't do it for me.
Even now I'm not looking forward to the next expansion or whatever, despite knowing that I would be able to play the game some more without feeling 'guilty' about it. It's weird.
tl;dr:The shooting is great, but at the same time I just don't feel like coming back to it.
TheAquaticApe
Member
I get it. I have felt like that about other games before too. Hopefully, the good will outweigh the bad for you in the next DLC drop. I am always optimistic for the future!
I too want to live in a world where shotguns are awesome in PvE again.
Slammin_Hammon
Member
Just lost a match because I respawned 3 feet from 3 enemies in a match of skirmish and was immediately supered, on Widow's Court no less. Cmon Bungie.
They're pay2win items.
mehrmantrout
Member
The are sunsingers OP argument has moved on with the new argument du jour being Shotgunners v Snipers which takes more skill
Being a shotgunner but having previously sniped, i'd say shotgunning takes more skill. You have to be much more map aware as you're constantly moving around looking for a pick instead of sitting at the back of the map hardscoping a lane/doorway with your aimbot
Being a shotgunner but having previously sniped, i'd say shotgunning takes more skill. You have to be much more map aware as you're constantly moving around looking for a pick instead of sitting at the back of the map hardscoping a lane/doorway with your aimbot
The always-on radar also works against shotgunning but greatly helps sniping. Quickly de-scoping to instantly see if anyone is sneaking up on you, then back to hard-scoping vs. having to close distance and flank individuals/teams all while they can see you the entire time on their radar.
Inferno spoiled me. I wish the radar was always off.
Hey! I didn't write a long time (been reading a lot though), but i have to break my silence to say i totally agree with the above statement.
Destiny, as much as i know its every last flaw, it's still amazing for the time we've put into this game and i am pretty sure, it will be really hard for any other game, to suck me into it as much as Destiny did.
Sure, other games seem better and maybe ARE better... for a few hours/days/weeks. But Destiny felt good for a year and more.... despite the ''oh so many'' flaws we all know.
So ... yesterday was great.
After a short break in PvP I deciced the re-join my party-members. Unfortunatly, I got placed on the other team. Yes, I was playing against 5 other Guardians who work great as a team.
After about 5 minutes in, a guy in the party says : "Nice! A 15 kill-streak! You are almost Unbroken! Stay in the back of the map..." Now, here comes the funny part. I had no fucking idea what Unbroken ment (until today). I was thinking ... "What is Unbroken? O well, lets go hunt and kill the twat".
When the guy said he was in the back of the map I started pushing up. There he was. The poor ol' Hunter. In full Blade-Dancer mode. He takes out two of my team-mates and turns his attention to me. At this point I still had no idea what Unbroken ment to him ... but o boy, I was about to find out.
*INSERT TITAN-SMASH TO THE FACE HERE*
After about 0.0001 seconds he starts cursing at me. Calls me all sorts of names. Insults everyone I know and more. Hell, he even starts insulting my pets. Now, he refuses to even talk to me. Because, apparently, Unbroken means the WORLD to him. He has been trying to get this medal for 2-fucking-years and I robbed him. Again, I didn't know what Unbroken ment. Nor how (or why) you'd get it.
I feel dirty after this. Really dirty. If I knew what Unbroken was (I'm not a PvP player, hell ... I barely play PvP unless it's with friends) I would not have taken him out.
Well... GAF ... am I forever lost in time? #sadbutfeelsgoodman
After a short break in PvP I deciced the re-join my party-members. Unfortunatly, I got placed on the other team. Yes, I was playing against 5 other Guardians who work great as a team.
After about 5 minutes in, a guy in the party says : "Nice! A 15 kill-streak! You are almost Unbroken! Stay in the back of the map..." Now, here comes the funny part. I had no fucking idea what Unbroken ment (until today). I was thinking ... "What is Unbroken? O well, lets go hunt and kill the twat".
When the guy said he was in the back of the map I started pushing up. There he was. The poor ol' Hunter. In full Blade-Dancer mode. He takes out two of my team-mates and turns his attention to me. At this point I still had no idea what Unbroken ment to him ... but o boy, I was about to find out.
*INSERT TITAN-SMASH TO THE FACE HERE*
After about 0.0001 seconds he starts cursing at me. Calls me all sorts of names. Insults everyone I know and more. Hell, he even starts insulting my pets. Now, he refuses to even talk to me. Because, apparently, Unbroken means the WORLD to him. He has been trying to get this medal for 2-fucking-years and I robbed him. Again, I didn't know what Unbroken ment. Nor how (or why) you'd get it.
I feel dirty after this. Really dirty. If I knew what Unbroken was (I'm not a PvP player, hell ... I barely play PvP unless it's with friends) I would not have taken him out.
Well... GAF ... am I forever lost in time? #sadbutfeelsgoodman
CrudeDiatribe
Member
If you like how they look, infuse a higher defense item into them to make them useful.
They are from the treasure boxes-- everyone gets one a week, and two more can be had for free from doing specific things. You can also buy them using Destiny's fake currency which you buy with real money.
And in just over a month and a half Homey has 3 335's already
Shit is good, they better not make it worse in Fall again lol.
I can't see them reversing these changes, people are finally happey with most of the game. The only negatives that seem to come up now are PVP Lag, boring PVP weapons and PVE Nerfs. (#makeshotgunsgreatagain)
The QoL hasn't been this good since HoW era. Only thing left that I can think of is to reduce cost of Heavy Ammo (Still think it's too much $$) and allow us to buy armor parts.
yeah
Ok cool thanks.
Not looked into infusing yet so that is a new thing for me to try later.
Armor parts has to happen, I don't see why not. No reason to sell weapon parts and not armor.
That's hilarious, you're a true Titan.
Personally hitting max Light quickly doesn't mean anything to me, it's all about getting gear with the perks I want -- and there is A LOT of RNG in armor now.
I so wish Destiny took a page from Diablo 3 where we can select 1 column only to re-roll. For example, gloves that came with your ideal INT DISC STR distribution, increased grenade throw distance, but Sidearm Reloader (boooo).
If that was the armor look you wanted plus had almost all the perks, it's still just as much Junk. If we could re-roll that Reloader column, or the Stat column, I'd be in heaven.
I so wish Destiny took a page from Diablo 3 where we can select 1 column only to re-roll. For example, gloves that came with your ideal INT DISC STR distribution, increased grenade throw distance, but Sidearm Reloader (boooo).
If that was the armor look you wanted plus had almost all the perks, it's still just as much Junk. If we could re-roll that Reloader column, or the Stat column, I'd be in heaven.
I've always felt the Uncharted games were really lacking in the combat department. Is Uncharted 4 the same? I bought it but haven't played it yet.
I'd bet money on it changing. It's way too easy to level up right now, I just can't see them keeping it this way with a brand new expansion. There's also completely different teams working on all the different expansions which is why all of them felt so different.
Plus c'mon, this is Bungie, they'll find a way to mess it up.
irrotational
Member
I'm almost certain they will. The pattern is too clear, introduce new content with a long tail grind...spend a few months making it a little better (dark below andor challenge mode) then towards the end of the year take the brakes off and let people grind for stats and rolls rather than light level.
I've always felt the Uncharted games were really lacking in the combat department. Is Uncharted 4 the same? I bought it but haven't played it yet.
I'd bet money on it changing. It's way too easy to level up right now, I just can't see them keeping it this way with a brand new expansion. There's also completely different teams working on all the different expansions which is why all of them felt so different.
Plus c'mon, this is Bungie, they'll find a way to mess it up.
So the loot will remain this generous and always be within 6 light levels the way it currently is?
Do you think you'll be able to bring all armor/weapons forward if they keep the infusion system? There was a hard reset for TTK leaving a bunch of items in Y1, but with infusion around and it staying, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to level up all your existing gear then.
I just can't see them not introducing a new system with a new expansion logo on new items and leaving a bunch of stuff behind for Y3. That way they can drip feed exotics and pretend like they're new again.
Do you think you'll be able to bring all armor/weapons forward if they keep the infusion system? There was a hard reset for TTK leaving a bunch of items in Y1, but with infusion around and it staying, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to level up all your existing gear then.
I just can't see them not introducing a new system with a new expansion logo on new items and leaving a bunch of stuff behind for Y3. That way they can drip feed exotics and pretend like they're new again.
Darknyss09
Member
I only played about 3 hours so far but it feels improved. I could be swayed by how great it looks though. Hardest thing to get used to is reload being triangle. I may look into remapping the controls.
But god damn if ND doesn't nail the story and keep surprising you at every corner. So far it feels like UC2/TLoU level for me... Which is fucking great.
I was being sarcastic, I don't have a problem with them leaving stuff behind as long as they leave the system as is. I would like them to get rid of LL on Ghosts, artifacts and class items however.
Armor materials have been the struggle for me. I must have thought I had an unlimited supply at the launch of the April update cause I was infusing like a mad person. It was when I had to transfer some from other characters that I noticed a very low stock of these things. Wish I could buy them like weapon parts.
Court of Oryx is your source for this stuff, good way to burn off reciprocal runes. Run that for a bit and you will be swimming in them
Yeah, I checked reddit for some tips on getting them and a lot of people suggest that too. Little time to farm for stuff atm though.
xplicitone
Member
Damn, Homey has 3x 335 LOL beats me already. I only have 3x 334 at best.
Well I do have 2 titans so I cheated. Also my scrublock is one of those "could be 335 but not with gear I want to use" type of things so I usually run him at around 333-334. I actually prefer running everything at 334 instead of 335 for the drops. Much better luck getting 335 drops while at 334 than at 335 total LL (for me anyways).
xplicitone
Member
Ahh that's right, well still, 2x!
Yea, I hear that for most people too. I hate getting 334 drops even @ 334.
Untrue and unfounded, I ran 2 x 335 last night and almost every drop except 2 were 335. It's pure RNG.
Read the last 3 words of my post breh
They're almost certainly going to use expansions/years to age out old gear and guns. It's standard MMO design and Bungie has been using it since the Dark Below. HoW just retroactively undid it because HoW was the point they switched from being DLC-crunch-release base to Year X based. It's been a while but everyone has forgotten that Dark Below retired all vanilla gear the day it came out, besides the exotics Xur had upgrades for.
The reason the expansions felt different is because they were direct reactions to the previous releases. Bungie knew fairly quickly the DB Xur exotic upgrade mechanic went over like a lead balloon, so they ripped it out and replaced it with ascension. They knew people felt like they had to burn a bunch of mats until they got god rolls which homogenized the player base too much, so they removed universal re-rolling on guns. They figured out people felt forced to hold onto stepping-stone guns and armor for infusion, so they made it 1:1. They're quite reactive and are willing to throw something out if it doesn't pan out.
(edited) ?
Nope. You just completely skipped over it lol
Not to mention.. it's IN the post you quoted
Nope. You just completely skipped over it lol
Not to mention.. it's IN the post you quoted
