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Destiny |OT42| Embrace the Not-Knowing

140.85

Cognitive Dissonance, Distilled
you've taken my thorn away

now you want to take my universal remote

stahp

Would you agree that shot package was kinda bullshit and it's good that it's gone? UR is basically that without the constraints of Special ammo! So you can have a team of shot package + the ability to snipe. It's kind of a problem IMHO and I will be surprised if Bungie doesn't take notice. I highly doubt it was their intention to be able to double up on the benefits of Special so easily and with so few penalties. NLB gets away with it because...well, it's NLB, lol. It's not exactly user friendly.
 

Hzoltan69

Member
I'd be down to help out with Oryx this evening from 7:30 Irish Time, if that suits. Wouldn't mind starting from Warpriest if we have time.

Does anyone else need it?

Sounds good, I can get online around 8pm. I'd be down for a Warpriest start as well.
You are on PS4, right?
 

Zakalwe

Banned
Any advice about how to get 25 crucible kills with the sword for someone who sucks at PvP?

Sit on corners, wait for people to run close, charge and swing and pray.

When you can get HW ammo, grab it. It will make things much easier.

It's not as painful as it seems.
 

Zakalwe

Banned
Is there anything I need to know going into RoI?

Obviously things like getting as many vendors to reward point to take advantage of new items in engrams, saving up legendary marks, etc...

Two questions:

1. Exotics? I have almost every Y1 item, but they're not good for anything now but normalised PvP and exotic shards, right?

2. Should I be spending marks on Y2 Exotics or saving?
 

Shiv47

Member
Any advice about how to get 25 crucible kills with the sword for someone who sucks at PvP?
This week's PvP featured mode in Inferno 6v6, so use the lack of radar to sneak around and hit people with the hilt. Hide whenever necessary as advised.
 
Is there anything I need to know going into RoI?

Obviously things like getting as many vendors to reward point to take advantage of new items in engrams, saving up legendary marks, etc...

Two questions:

1. Exotics? I have almost every Y1 item, but they're not good for anything now but normalised PvP and exotic shards, right?

2. Should I be spending marks on Y2 Exotics or saving?

1. True

2. Save for RoI. Use marks to buy new higher level gear from vendors
 

JJShadow

Member
You can hit the enemy with the handle alone, no need for heavy ammo. Takes two hits to kill but is a lot faster, just need some wits and you are done

Sit on corners, wait for people to run close, charge and swing and pray.

When you can get HW ammo, grab it. It will make things much easier.

It's not as painful as it seems.

Play with a friend who is willing to run to you and get killed with the hilt. Agreeing on a specific location per map is a good start.

This week's PvP featured mode in Inferno 6v6, so use the lack of radar to sneak around and hit people with the hilt. Hide whenever necessary as advised.

Thank you all! I didn't know you can get kills using the hilt, so that should make things much easier taking into account I'm pretty bad at acquiring HW ammo. I'll give it a try this afternoon

And btw, in case someone has to get those 25 sword kills as well, just let me know and we can arrange some non-stop crucible killing to make it faster
 

noomi

Member
Really hope that the scarab emblem is attainable in year3, it's the only trials emblem I'm missing at this point.
 

Number45

Member
Are there any easily obtainable shotguns worth trying out? I feel like I should at least make an attempt to improve with them but the game apparently doesn't want me to.
 

glaurung

Member
Are there any easily obtainable shotguns worth trying out? I feel like I should at least make an attempt to improve with them but the game apparently doesn't want me to.
You get a real good Conspiracy Theory for a TTK quest line.

Other than that? Wait for Rise of Iron and get Dead Orbit's new shotty.
 

Zakalwe

Banned
Are there any easily obtainable shotguns worth trying out? I feel like I should at least make an attempt to improve with them but the game apparently doesn't want me to.

Some of the Vendor shotguns are very good.

Shotguns

Because all Shotgun Times-to-Kill are instant with point blank shots in PvP, the listed Times-to-Kill are with two shots, and assuming Guardian has max armor (not including the effects of The Ram).

Field Choke, Linear Compensator, Accurized Ballistics all increase the damage per pellet by 2.5%. Aggressive Ballistics increases it by 5%. Soft Ballistics decreases it by 2.5%.

Very High-Impact - The Conspiracy Theory-D, available from the Vanguard Quartermaster, or Taken King Quest completion, is still the go to shotty-sniper in PvP, and this update has done little to change that. If you're looking to kill someone from rage-inducing distance, this is your gun, and the vendor perks include Reinforced Barrel, just to help out. Not a great roll, but it is a good weapon, so if you haven't gotten the Quest version yet, why not pick it up?

Conspiracy Theory-D - Available from the Vanguard Quartermaster, or Taken King Quest completion. Recommended Perks for Vanguard Quartermaster version: Smart Drift Control, Life Support, Reinforced Barrel, Performance Bonus. Recommended Perks for Quest version: Accurized Ballistics, Rangefinder, Rifled Barrel, Performance Bonus.

  • [*]Pros - Above average Range. High Mag Size.
    [*]Cons - Average Stability. Low Reload Speed and Aim Assist.
  • Time-to-Kill: 1.33s (two shots)
  • Rate of Fire: 5
  • Impact: 67 (22 damage per pellet, 264 damage total)
  • Range: 16
  • Stability: 30
  • Reload Speed: 23
  • Mag Size: 6
  • Aim Assist: 26

Mid-Impact - The Next Big Thing is available from the Crucible Quartermaster. With the fantastic run-and-gun combo of Full Auto, Crowd Control, and Single Point Sling, I think this shotgun might be an overlooked vendor jewel from this update. Allowing you to rapidly fire shots into one target, before turning on another with even more powerful pellets isn't something to be ignored, and I hope that we soon see a new style of shotgun play revolving around multiple quick shots (think Invective) as opposed to one single shot from a distance. For the specialist of the bunch, we have the ever lovely Patch-A, available from the Dead Orbit Representative. With a tremendous perk set that includes Kneepads, Final Round, and Rifled Barrel, you can (riskily, I might add) actually take people out from ranges you never thought possible. Granted, if you miss, you'll probably die, but when you're killing someone from the other end of the hall way with one shot from a Mid-Impact shotty, who cares?

The Next Big Thing - Available from the Crucible Quartermaster. Recommended Perks: Accurized Ballistics, Crowd Control, Full Auto, Single Point Sling.

  • [*]Pros - Very high Stability. Above average Reload Speed. High Aim Assist.
    [*]Cons - Low Range. Average Mag Size.
  • Time-to-Kill: 0.93s (two shots)
  • Rate of Fire: 23
  • Impact: 52 (19 per pellet, 228 total)
  • Range: 10
  • Stability: 60
  • Reload Speed: 35
  • Mag Size: 5
  • Aim Assist: 59

Patch-A - Available from the Dead Orbit Representative. Recommended Perks: Linear Compensator, Final Round, Kneepads, Rifled Barrel.

  • [*]Pros - High Mag Size. Very high Stability. Above average Reload Speed and Aim Assist.
    [*]Cons - Low Range.
  • Time-to-Kill: 0.93s (two shots)
  • Rate of Fire: 23
  • Impact: 52 (19 per pellet, 228 total)
  • Range: 11
  • Stability: 57
  • Reload Speed: 35
  • Mag Size: 6
  • Aim Assist: 51

Low-Impact - Here we have the Burden of Proof XI, which is available from the New Monarchy Representative. I don't usually recommend Low-Impact Shotguns, but with Field Choke, Rangefinder, Rifled Barrel, and Final Round, you're going to be very nearly pushing the limits of what a shotguns range can do. The exceptionally quick follow up shot can help you finish off anyone who didn't die from the first, in less than half the speed it takes a Conspiracy user to fire again.

Burden of Proof XI - Available from the New Monarchy Representative. Recommended Perks: Field Choke, Rangefinder, Rifled Barrel, Final Round.

  • [*]Pros - High Reload Speed and Aim Assist.
    [*]Cons - Average Range and Mag Size. Below average Stability.
  • Time-to-Kill: 0.66s (two shots)
  • Rate of Fire: 17
  • Impact: 40 (18 per pellet, 216 total)
  • Range: 14
  • Stability: 27
  • Reload Speed: 50
  • Mag Size: 5
  • Aim Assist: 61

Source.
 
Is there a newbie raid coming up? A friend I made during the Destiny Refer-A-Friend is still looking to complete his first raid but I've been so busy with IRL stuff

Really hope that the scarab emblem is attainable in year3, it's the only trials emblem I'm missing at this point.


I have all of the trials emblems but not all of the iron banner ones. Now I wish I would have grinded IB for them
 

noomi

Member
Take your Sun of Osiris and shove it!!!

I'll trade ya for a Scarab! Sun of Osiris is still attainable as a random drop, is it not?

I have all of the trials emblems but not all of the iron banner ones. Now I wish I would have grinded IB for them

Hmm, I thought the only three IB emblems were the ones you can buy pretty early on. I don;t think they are going away in year 3 so you should be able to get them pretty easily still :)

Unless... they are actually going away :/
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Jolly Holiday Quest Update - Had some very productive rounds in Crucible last night. Went from 5 percent to 64% in around 8 matches. The trick is to NOT to use the last word and only equip it when you have supers or at the end of rounds. went on some decent sprees in Mayhem but it was disheartening to get a double kill medal, die and LOSE progress.

Tomorrow is Arms day so today i have to get to 100%, then donate 15k glimmer which sucks because i spent 20k on weapon parts a couple of days ago, then kill 16 majors which shouldnt be too hard and finally do the shield brothers quest. All in one day. Hopefully there are some trains going on early this evening.

Deadlines. When Destiny stops feeling like work and actually becomes work.
 

Deku Tree

Member
Get your KF MoT done before the Thursday 9/8 patch. You never know when they will change which CM is active. Patches have pushed it forward in the past.
 
Would you guys consider Hidden Hand + Rifled Barrel + Life Support a god roll for a fusion rifle? It's a Split Shifter Pro so it's already got what I think is the fastest charge time and very high impact.
 
It took 350 days for my first Eyasluna to drop with either Rifled/Reinforced

Today I got this

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Then 4 games later this

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Still got the worlds most annoying set of shaxxfall to do for a shot at 3 for the day as well
 
Any advice about how to get 25 crucible kills with the sword for someone who sucks at PvP?
Mayhem playlists provide a ton of heavy ammo. Rumble playlists provide a ton of targets.

Ideally you'd complete this in a Mayhem Rumble game, although it's not available every week.
 
Would you guys consider Hidden Hand + Rifled Barrel + Life Support a god roll for a fusion rifle? It's a Split Shifter Pro so it's already got what I think is the fastest charge time and very high impact.
Not really but it's an ok roll. Split shifter is the weakest fusion in Y2 but it has the highest charge time of all fusions available right now. It's weak because you need to hit 6 out of 7 bolts to kill due to low impact. Accelerated coils would be ideal. If you want a fast charging fusion get the panta rhei from the crucible quartermaster.
 

Requiem

Member
Is there a GAF clan/community on PS4 for Destiny that I can join? Getting my Titan up to par on PS4 and now ready to take on some more team based stuff...
 

XenoRaven

Member
It took 350 days for my first Eyasluna to drop with either Rifled/Reinforced

Today I got this

PS_Messages_20160906_144052.jpg


Then 4 games later this

PS_Messages_20160906_144059.jpg


Still got the worlds most annoying set of shaxxfall to do for a shot at 3 for the day as well
I don't know what it is about this game but you go through crazy gear droughts and then one decent drop heralds a torrential downpour of stuff.

I did not have a single Y2 rocket launcher with G&H for months, got a crappy one to drop, got a SUROS from the Quartermaster, and then got a nice Vertigo from a FWC rank up package all in one week.
 
You guys want to give it a run? Ruthless want to come too? Or at least mind jumping in game to give out the checkpoint?

Pretty sure I have mocolos and Japanman on friends already. You're mocolos_usa right? My PSN is KC_Darkness.

Just now seeing this. I can hop back on.
 

noomi

Member
Was literally just talking about the Eyasluna in party chat last night, then in discord this morning.

I've had one sitting in my vault for a few months, and wasn't sure if it was worth keeping due to the perks. Mine rolled with Truesight IS, Outlaw, Rifled Barrel & Icarus. I don't normal jump around and shoot at people, but I'll give it a shot due to the perk now. I've been out of the game way too long to know what's good and what isn't anymore.

Going to level it up and try it when I get home to see how it is.

That being said, pvp loot drops are so few and far between for me, seems like 95% of the time it's some rare low LL gear or strange coins.

Hoping for any party crasher and a decent ash factory to drop still.
 
They way they've talked so far SBMM is staying and if you want to relax go play in private matches
I must be confused about something - doesn't SBMM mean skill-based matchmaking? Because after playing dozens of hours in Trials all weekend (112+ games for all the gold packages), I can say without a doubt there is zero matchmaking as I was often going up against top-tier players whereas I am at the bottom-tier because I only just recently started playing Trials for the first time.

I would love it if Trials matchmaking was actually based on skill and not completely random...
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Had a great weekend at DragonCon in Atlanta. Feels odd and a bit unpleasant to be back in reality.

edit: Go LT go! You can do it!
 

Trakan

Member
I must be confused about something - doesn't SBMM mean skill-based matchmaking? Because after playing dozens of hours in Trials all weekend (112+ games for all the gold packages), I can say without a doubt there is zero matchmaking as I was often going up against top-tier players whereas I would be at the bottom-tier because I only just recently started playing Trials for the first time.

I would love it if Trials matchmaking was actually based on skill and not completely random...

Trials is based on wins. It's the only gametype that doesn't have SBMM. If you have 5 wins, you'll get matched up with a team with 5 wins. It gets progressively harder as you get closer to a full card. It also gets laggier as the game will literally match you with people from around the world.
 
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