Hey look, Destiny OT3 and its mostly Gaffers talking about playing the game. If a large portion of this cynical crowd is enjoying it, despite the circle jerk of negativity in here, I'm sure the casuals are eating it up. Activision already knows the reviews don't mean shit.
Destiny - Review Thread
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I agree with this. I honestly regret purchasing the game day one. hype made me do it. and what is worse I bought it digitally as well. never again going digital with any game like ever again. unless its 5$ game like the games I buy on steam or a game I know I want to keep forever like a Halo game for example.
I hate the fact I kill some enemy, walk passed them. go back for like 2 minutes and I find them there. if I want to buy/have a gun, I have to go somewhere, If I want a mission, I have to go somewhere else. its really confusing. the only thing I am doing is playing 6 vs 6 team death match.
I know its my mistake for not reading much into the game. and I did play the alpha and the beta. I am the only one here to blame.
when talk about hyping a game to death, Titan fall was /still is a very fun game to me. this.. is not.
Thanks for stopping by the review thread to talk about how pointless reviews are.
it may have flaws, but it doesn't deserve to be taken out back and shot with a 6.
here's another thing: the game's art is exquisitely beautiful. you may call that "hollow with a pretty wrapper", but I get real pleasure out of walking around and enjoying the environments.
if a 6 bothers you so much just ignore it, there are other reviews. Just because someone feels a bit different from a game then you shouldn't mean you should blame them
Thanks for your useless and wrong post.
First time I'm checking this thread after I noticed that "critical flop" thread was locked. Didn't see a single review till now.
...all I ever see is people raving about how great Destiny is so I must say I'm surprised at the middling scores. What are people seeing in this that critics aren't? ZombiU part 2?
...all I ever see is people raving about how great Destiny is so I must say I'm surprised at the middling scores. What are people seeing in this that critics aren't? ZombiU part 2?
Despite middling scores, they got a lot right. Enough to make it a very enjoyable game - just nowhere near as good as it could have been if they didn't make a series of bewildering design decisions. It deserves the scores, but it can also be fixed.
Timmay, it's an opinion , though plenty of you seem to feel you have a monopoly on the truth.
Saltier than the dead sea are we? IIRC Bungie has a $2.5m bonus on the line if it doesn't break 90 on gamerankings so I do think they and ActiBlizz do care. That aside, even if nobody cared about review scores the reviews highlight glaring issues with the game that could very well hamper the performance of future titles, DLC and the longevity of the IP, so yes they do matter.
In any case, good job saying that reviews don't matter in the review thread.
Opinions can be useless and argued to be wrong bruv.
People are fucking loving the game. I have a large crowd of gamers on my Facebook (I'm part of a business that attracts those sorts of call of duty players, etc). There's about 40-50 on my friends list/feed and I haven't heard a single bad thing or complaint from any of them. Not one. People ask how the game is and every single one gushes about it. Not a drop of negativity. It's strange in a way.
Yeah, this. I understand why the game hasn't been released on PC. Console players aren't that used to MMOs but I've played and the game feels really, really void of certain stuff.
I can't understand that there isn't a chat system. They could have used the mobile app for that, I mean, everybody and their grandmas have a smartphone nowadays (with a keyboard option, obviously).
There isn't a proper clan system either for what I've read on GAF. There should be a proper tab for clans, clans chatting, and all that.
For being a connected experience it feels a little bit antisocial.
Is it OT 3 already? I need to get there, I've just bought the game and I'm liking it (I ignored the hype machine so everything is cool).
Right, and the long term sales will prove one way or another, you're simply speculating.
Destiny will have a reasonably large casual gaming following I think.
I'm saying that reviews do in fact reflect elements of the game that have traditionally affected sales. It's been demonstrated that reviews do matter, especially to Bungie and Acti with money on the line.
That's a trend and by definition speculation. Also, The difference between development costs to raise the game to a 10 might exceed added income.
Reasonably large seems like an understatement. I haven't seen the crowd universally adopt a game like this... Ever. Well, maybe COD MW..
Tomeru
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See, this is the difference. You shouldn't have to play a game for many hours just to get a different gun (and yes, a gun that does 1250 and one that does 1500 dmg are two different guns), is a sentence I find very strange. I don't agree because how many hours is subjective, and after playing many many mmos on pc, I can tell you that you don't have an idea what many hours mean.
There's something I trust even less than the gaming press when it comes to judging hyped up AAA-titles: gamers gushing about their latest AAA-title purchase after being hyped up for it for months. If anything, Destiny is a prime example of the power of marketing.
After the smell of the new is gone, the hype has cooled off and people actually have spend more than a couple of days with the game, many of them will likely become more critical of the game.
No it wouldn't. The would have been better off critically doing less and having Bungie focus on their core strengths rather than have chunks of the game be complete amateur hour.
I've had people complete skip out on the game because they said they'd have to be fools to put down $70 for a middling game.
Sorry, no it wouldn't isn't a reason . Maybe the amateur hour parts of the games will keep players engaged long term.
Did you forget to read the rest of the post in your exuberance to hit the post button?
Diablohead
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A lot of these big places have bonuses tied to metacritic ranks and scores which is dumb as shit, but it happens, the leaked document about activision having the rights to bail if the score is below 80 is an example.
Birgitte2004
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Sorry, but this is wrong. Review history has been set up such that 6/10 is bad. 5/10 and below are generally reserved for unplayable.
You can say it shouldn't be true that 6/10 is bad (and I'd agree), but you can't just arbitrarily change things for one game, where 6/10 represents a bad game on 99% of games but not this one.
Perhaps, but this same crowd was hyped on COD Ghost and the critiques came faaaast on that.
And usually I notice some actual nuanced discussion on things. There's literally nothing bad been said by any of them, and they've all spent all of their free time since release playing it.
I wasted some time going through FFXIII's OT. It took a while for the negativity to set in. Somewhat ironically, all that negativity set my expectations so low that when I actually did play the game, I liked it.
Birgitte2004
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I think the opposite of this, after a few days hating on Destiny will no longer be the popular thing, and those that hate the game will stop harping on it.
The rest will just be in game, having fun playing it.
Yes, some people who love it now will get bored over time, but that always happens.
SEGAvangelist
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I wonder if that still exists in the current contract.
Holyshit, really? The reviews must really be causing some upset at Bungie.
I know there's a bonus contingent on a score in the 90s, not sure about the rights though.
Gucci Messiah
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Just because something sells well doesn't mean it isn't flawed. You seem very defensive.
TheLostBigBoss
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I will eat my left foot if the consensus of Destiny goes from "meh" to "it's great".
.hacked
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Happend with Diablo III...
HiredN00bs
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I hope you enjoy pungent flavors.
Absolutely. I have a feeling many people are going to revise their opinion of Destiny as it's updated.
The game is fantastic.
SEGAvangelist
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If Activision can bail at any time now, that sounds scary for Bungie. If it were above an 80, Activision would likely give them all the funding they need for continued development to make sure the game is the best it can possibly be. Hopefully the game sell-in ratio is high for that $500 million shipped. I actually like this game and want it to succeed.
Messofanego
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Love them :3Publishers ain't got no shame.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
So as someone who hasn't played it...hearing all the talk about it having too little content makes me wonder, what were Bungie putting their effort (and hundreds of millions) into for all those years? What aspect of the game shows the most amount of labor?
Netherscourge
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This.
$60 is a lot of money and sometimes people will bite the bullet to feel like they didn't waste their money on something. They'll MAKE themselves think it's a great game.
This isn't Zombii U almost everyone praised that game for delivering on its premise. The people who disliked it hated what was included in the last few sections of the game so they were enjoying up until the ending.
This game though is split among buyers. Even worse is that half the people who like the game perfectly understand the flaws of the game and see some of the arguments as valid reasons to dislike the game even if they are enjoying completely different aspects of it.
This game isn't misunderstood like Zombii U. It was overhyped and under delivered.
SEGAvangelist
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Blizzard had an established brand they had to salvage into something excellent, kind of like SE with Final Fantasy XIV. If that below 80 metacritic escape clause for Activision is true, what gives them the same motivation with Destiny compared to Diablo 3 and FFXIV.
TatteredHat
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Anything can happen with sufficient funds and time, it's basically a completely different game now.
We'll have to see how Bungie handles the criticism.
SJRB
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I'm a few missions into Venus, and unless a miracle happens on Mars I seriously don't see how this could warrant a revision of any review.
CitizenCope
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Bungie should have had missions like trying to push a giant golf ball down a hole instead of the same mission types over and over.
The art and presentation.
SEGAvangelist
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The world design. Every planet has SOOOOOO much detail. The artwork and level design is absolutely stunning. The problem is just how empty it all feels.
If by "updated" you mean "once the countless number of DLC are sold", then really it won't change anything. Games should be reviewed based on the state they are in at launch, and that's what has been done.
No doubt, the game may end up being much better once all the content is on the table, but currently things are different. There's no reason to revise these reviews at a future date.
The incredible artistic direction
It doesn't have too little content. It has lots of content, it just doesn't have enough content to satisfy the expectations of people who thought this was going to be some fully fledged MMO type adventure with environments dense with interactive parts.
It's Halo in a shared world and light rpg elements, which to me is wonderful. For a game of this type the content is great and will only improve over time. And as Bungie are adding free updates as well as paid dlc this game is going to be huge in 6 months to a year.
I've been playing a lot, level 23, not even close to bored yet.
I didn't mention the reviews, I said that people will revise their /opinions/ in future.
if a 6 bothers you so much just ignore it, there are other reviews. Just because someone feels a bit different from a game then you shouldn't mean you should blame them
it's not about blame or bother. we're discussing the game and its scores.
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