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[Parsnip]

If it's included in the retail release you get it. They buy retail boxes and then gut them and give you all the stuff included

I know.
But they don't list them, so are they buying something other than Day One editions?
Maybe. Maybe there are retail boxes without that stuff in the regions they buy them from.
I don't know.

But again, I'm only pointing it out so people notice and don't blindly buy the cheapest thing they can get their hands on thinking it's the same content everywhere.

 

[Nzyme32]

I am trying to get a key for the original Non-Director's cut version of HR on Steam.

God... it is hard... and DANGEROUS.

Buy the retail copy - it activates on Steam

 

[Dictator93]

Just buy the directors cut

I would have usually, but if I see the warning of "unstoppable stuttering due to old engine version" on the PC gaming wiki... I get a bit nervous. I really need smooth framerates.

Buy the retail copy - it activates on Steam

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002I0HKRQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20

It activates on Steam.

Thx guys!

 

[Simo]

You'd think so, but if that's the edition cdkeys & all are selling, why don't they list all of the digital content that come with it? Like cdkeys for example only mentions the covert agent pack, nothing else. Where did the extra mission or all of the other digital stuff go, like the ost sampler?
I don't know.

They might be included but like I said, if someone happens to care about that stuff, they should make sure they are getting what they think they are getting.

I know.
But they don't list them, so are they buying something other than Day One editions?
Maybe. Maybe there are retail boxes without that stuff in the regions they buy them from.
I don't know.

But again, I'm only pointing it out so people notice and don't blindly buy the cheapest thing they can get their hands on thinking it's the same content everywhere.

No idea. I don't know why CDkeys wouldn't list it or split the Day One stuff when seemingly others aren't. I mean every other legit source I've seen like Amazon, GMG or Steam all list the standard digital edition for PC as coming with the Day One content.

It's the same for consoles too where if you buy the digital standard version you get the Day One content and all physical console copies available on release day are "Day One" versions.

It just seems similar to me like the MGSV "Day One" release where when you bought the game on or close to launch you got a Day One copy but as those sold out or whatever then the cases switched from Day One to saying to nothing and those bonuses were gone.

 

[Morgan Blackhand]

Any info yet if there's an another hub than prague?

 

[Glass]

Any info yet if there's an another hub than prague?

This is a great question, I've not even thought about this.

I know they wanted a third hub in HR outside of Detroit and Hengsha but had to cut due to time constraints.

 

[Mifec]

Any info yet if there's an another hub than prague?

Golem city is the only other location we know of other than the intro mission in Dubai.

 

[JaseC]

I would have usually, but if I see the warning of "unstoppable stuttering due to old engine version" on the PC gaming wiki... I get a bit nervous. I really need smooth framerates.



Thx guys!

You'll also want The Missing Link, a separate mini-campaign set in a small interim that the base game skips over. GMG still has some keys left to sell, it seems.

 

[Nzyme32]

Ah fuck it. In my time waiting for Mankind Divided, I'll once again go through OG Deus Ex. I must go through it once every two years or so since it launched and I still managed to find new ways of doing things / story paths etc.

Hope Mankind Divided can reach and surpass that kind of freedom varaibility

 

[Atilac]

Any word on how well the ps4 version runs?

 

[Novum_Veritas]

Any word on how well the ps4 version runs?

You can watch the first 20 minutes on GameSpot, they're playing the PS4 version.
I watched it today, looks pretty flawless.
https://youtu.be/X7hUzbdRuhs

 

[Nags]

Any videos of the Xbox One version?

 

[Moff]

I really hope we get several city hubs.
I was very disappointed when I read Human Revoution was supposed to have a hub in Montreal but was stripped down to a single Mission because of time/budget.

Having so many diverse and memorable locations was something that made Deus Ex so great in the first place, and something Human Revolution lacked, as much as I loved it. Same with memorable characters, I don't remember anyone besides Sarif and the Bosses from Human Revolution, and the latter only because they were annyoing and a flaw of the game. Deus Ex had so many, Walton Simons, Bob Page, Gunther, Tracer Tong, Icarus and many more.
At least I hope Bob Page will be in this, since he was in the outro of Human Revolution.

 

[Window]

I really hope we get several city hubs.
I was very disappointed when I read Human Revoution was supposed to have a hub in Montreal but was stripped down to a single Mission because of time/budget.

Having so many diverse and memorable locations was something that made Deus Ex so great in the first place, and something Human Revolution lacked, as much as I loved it. Same with memorable characters, I don't remember anyone besides Sarif and the Bosses from Human Revolution, and the latter only because they were annyoing and a flaw of the game Deus Ex had so many, Walten Simmons, Bob Page, Gunther, Tracer Tong, Icarus and many more.
At least I hope Bob Page will be in this, since he was in the outro of Human Revolution.

Intro too. I do wonder how much they'll tie this into the original in the main narrative. The connections in HR were largely revealed through e-mails.

 

[Hostile_18]

I think this will be fun and enjoyable but no game with the Deus Ex name has heald a candle to the original. Even the creators never seemed to get that magic back again. Maybe it was just a product of its time.

A HD remake of the original would be amazing.

 

[Gamezone]

Any videos of the Xbox One version?

I expect it runs well on lower resolution.

 

[Moff]

Intro too. I do wonder how much they'll tie this into the original in the main narrative. The connections in HR were largely revealed through e-mails.

I'm certain the illuminati will be behind everything as usual, I can't imagine them doing anything else. but yeah I hope we get to actually meet them this time, I really hope the story delivers.

 

[Simo]

I'm certain the illuminati will be behind everything as usual, I can't imagine them doing anything else. but yeah I hope we get to actually meet them this time, I really hope the story delivers.

Spoiler

You're going to be happy.

 

[Heckler456]

So what's up with the 16 gb ram requirement? What will I be missing out on with my measly 8?

 

[Nielm]

I hope the plot in this game doesn't revolve around Russian guy vs Jensen, and it's more complex than that. I'm confident it will be.

Spoiler

Human Revolution's plot wasn't Namir vs Jensen, Namir was just the leader of an augmented group working for Belltower. There was Bob Page of course, but he was working behind the scenes.

 

[CertifiedFP]

I would have usually, but if I see the warning of "unstoppable stuttering due to old engine version" on the PC gaming wiki... I get a bit nervous. I really need smooth framerates.



Thx guys!

Director's Cut is perfectly fine, I've had no issues with it on PC. I had some issues with a lot of audio being compressed for some reason on PS3, but I've not had that on PC.

Though I think the problem with Director's Cut is that it was never meant to be released on PC or PS3/360. Was supposed to be a WiiU exclusive until megaton backlash caused SE to port DC's content to everything else the base game was on. And even then, DC on WiiU still has some exclusive features that never got put into the other versions.

...Man, the WiiU's biggest bane for 3rd Party support was people bitching every time it got 3rd Party support.

 

[Machina]

So what's up with the 16 gb ram requirement? What will I be missing out on with my measly 8?

Not much probably. It seems like a "safe" requirement rather than a necessary one

 

[EscapeArtist]

I hope this game is good. I played Human Revolution multiple times and I just want more cyberpunk games in my life (I'm hoping Cyberpunk 2077 can jump in to my GOAT list).

 

[spiderferi]

anyone knows who will review this at IGN or gamespot?

 

[texhnolyze]

I've just finished my pacify run on Human Resolution Director's Cut yesterday. No issues whatsoever.

 

[Mifec]

At least I hope Bob Page will be in this, since he was in the outro of Human Revolution.

He

Spoiler

is in the intro scene again and gets ordered to step in

 

[AlexBasch]

Oh man, I adored Human Revolution but haven't seen a single thing about this. Can't fucking wait, gonna go in mostly blind.

Yeah, me too, it's some kind of involuntary blackout because I was somewhat following the release date but forgot it was going to be next week. I'm now even thinking of picking this up on day one.

 

[Remmy2112]

IAt least I hope Bob Page will be in this, since he was in the outro of Human Revolution.

He was also in the intro of Human Revolution, that online meeting with all the voices scrambled. He is the only one seen

Spoiler

where they are talking about Reed's research. Someone PMs him that she is out of their reach and he replies "Is she?"

 

[Moff]

He was also in the intro of Human Revolution, that online meeting with all the voices scrambled. He is the only one seen

Spoiler

where they are talking about Reed's research. Someone PMs him that she is out of their reach and he replies "Is she?"

True, but it was revealed in the outro that is was him if I remember correctly

reading up to remember HR's story I just realized that the story was actually pretty good. Don't know why it was so unmemorable.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

reading up to remember HR's story I just realized that the story was actually pretty good. Don't know why it was so unmemorable.

It's not told very well, most likely. A bit of a shit ending too.

 

[JaseC]

Director's Cut is perfectly fine, I've had no issues with it on PC. I had some issues with a lot of audio being compressed for some reason on PS3, but I've not had that on PC.

Though I think the problem with Director's Cut is that it was never meant to be released on PC or PS3/360. Was supposed to be a WiiU exclusive until megaton backlash caused SE to port DC's content to everything else the base game was on. And even then, DC on WiiU still has some exclusive features that never got put into the other versions.

...Man, the WiiU's biggest bane for 3rd Party support was people bitching every time it got 3rd Party support.

Not that it changes anything, but I think a PC version was always planned as judging from the game's app id on Steam, it was uploaded around the time the Wii U version was announced whereas Squeenix didn't announce the move to a multiplatform release until June.

 

[BaraSailey]

I'm so excited for this game!!! Can't wait to read reviews on Friday and then finally get my hands on a copy on Tuesday. I almost can't believe this is finally coming out; I feel like I've been waiting for this forever, haha

 

[CertifiedFP]

Honestly, the thing about Human Revolution is that it's pretty much just average all around, but coming off of Invisible War, "Average" is a fucking godsend, especially with rumors that were swirling around that DXHR spent a lot of its development as a linear cover-shooter with lite-RPG elements until Square Enix bought Eidos and wanted to get the most out of the IPs they bought. Forgot who exactly it was, but there was someone at Eidos Montreal who so much as said that most of the levels had to be redesigned from scratch to allow gameplay more similar to the original DX, which resulted in the Montreal hub not being completed on time in turn.

I mean, jesus, this was a game that was predicted to be the Biggest Disaster of 7th Gen (Or at least an attempt at dethroning Sonic '06) until a press-demo got leaked and people were able to see it wasn't garbage.

But beyond that, I've got high-hopes for MD considering it would have started development on the right track instead of having to be reengineered mid-development to be a proper Deus Ex game.

 

[Moff]

Honestly, the thing about Human Revolution is that it's pretty much just average all around.

I don't agree at all, not even compared to the original I'd call HR "average". It was one the best games of it's generation.

 

[Deadbeat]

I mean, jesus, this was a game that was predicted to be the Biggest Disaster of 7th Gen (Or at least an attempt at dethroning Sonic '06) until a press-demo got leaked and people were able to see it wasn't garbage.

They should have leaked another press demo to drum up hype again. All those youtube videos of jensen running around choke slamming hookers really got the juices flowing.

 

[CertifiedFP]

I don't agree at all, not even compared to the original I'd call HR "average". It was one the best games of it's generation.

Don't get me wrong, it's a good game, but it's got a lot of rough edges and missed potential. And that's before how the bosses drag things down, even with the DC improvements.

How would I put it? Analogy-wise I'd call it a Prime 2 next to Invisible War's Other M/Fusion and the original's Super Metroid. It's a respectable entry that is a proper component of its series, but it's not quite the high point it could have been.

Also to be among the best games of 7th gen isn't much of an achievement IMO. 7th Gen was largely a pile of garbage with a decent handful of diamonds that people were able to remember.

For EM's first crack at DX it's pretty good though.

 

[Error]

SE getting ready to shower on all those GOTY mentions.

 

[SuperAndroid17]

When is the soundtrack coming out?

 

[sirap]

I would rather they do their own thing rather than try to recapture the magic of the original. Invisible War tried that and suffered for it.

 

[Shock_Wave]

Any info yet if there's an another hub than prague?

Nothing is confirmed and it's probably nothing but one of the new comics (Children's Crusade) has some kind of poster mentioning London. And the Augaware website a couple of months ago had an article about Tehran, Iran.

 

[Thorwaldsson]

Finally, on my fourth playtrough I got this bloody thing. Still need to do some side quest mission but that can wait until next weekend.

 

[Hostile_18]

I would rather they do their own thing rather than try to recapture the magic of the original. Invisible War tried that and suffered for it.

I'm not sure that was the reason it failed. If they had stuck to the blue print of the original alot more and also not compromised it for consoles it would have done a lot better.

 

[Iceternal]

So in the end ... Are HR and MD supposed to be actual prequels to the original ? Or can they be considered as reboots ?

 

[Hostile_18]

This may sound totally out there but for fans of the original I feel Alpha Protocol is the game that has come closest to capturing that magic, perhaps Dishonoured a distant second.

 

[Moff]

This may sound totally out there but for fans of the original I feel Alpha Protocol is the game that has come closest to capturing that magic, perhaps Dishonoured a distant second.

closer than HR? no way
I love dishonored but it has a completely different feel, but it's definitely a Deus Ex similar game. AP has completely different priorities imo.

So in the end ... Are HR and MD supposed to be actual prequels to the original ? Or can they be considered as reboots ?

they are actual prequels.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

So in the end ... Are HR and MD supposed to be actual prequels to the original ? Or can they be considered as reboots ?

They are intended as prequels, but you won't lose anything by assuming it's a reboot that will eventually cover the original game's time period.

 

[TheYanger]

Eh...I love Alpha Protocol, but it has far more emphasis on discreet dialogue mechanics and things like that than a skill based setup for progressing through the game. Deus Ex actually didn't give you a ton of choice in terms of altering the story, some things but mostly minor, but it gave you so much choice in going about missions. AP and even HR were pretty good about that, certainly more than most games, but not remotely at the level of DE. I would liken the flexibility afforded the player in DE to being close to something like Fallout 2, where every situation feels like you can organically approach it in virtually any way, where these other games tend to have a more clear 'stealth' 'loud' 'hacking' 'shooting' type dynamic.

I guess what I mean is, DE tended to have lots of moving parts in a level, and you could overcome any individual obstacle any number of ways and be rewarded for it with items, secrets, progress, better vantage, whatever. Typically in other games you're really forced to go all in quiet/loud and it kind of railroads you down that path once you're going that way. The original involved a lot more exploration if you wanted to make the most of your abilities. The main things holding other games back tend to be level design (Primarily this, designing levels that feel so open ended that they don't make everything obvious is tough - DE pulled it off), and also the skill systems. Deus Ex wasn't afraid to make you specialize and be legitimately bad at things that you didn't level up. This made it so even what was POSSIBLE would change from game to game and really put an emphasis on creativity. People tend to dump on Mass Effect 1 for having a Deus Ex style shooting system, but I think that it was a virtue to Deus Ex, since it put all of your various combat skill squarely as a choice vs your others, you had to consciously decide to be worth a damn with a sniper rifle, and if you did you made damn sure you went paths that let you utilize it, all the newer games make it too easy to be 'good enough' at literally everything, and often an expert at everything by the end. This is the single worst part of HR imo.

 

[Hostile_18]

closer than HR? no way
I love dishonored but it has a completely different feel, but it's definitely a Deus Ex similar game. AP has completely different priorities imo.



they are actual prequels.

I don't know the things I loved about the original Deus Ex, Alpha Protocol has. Great characters, amazing choices (that seriously effect the story), varied locations, sandbox levels, great twisting story, ability to build up and stick with any weapon in the game. As well as some extra things such as the great conversation system which has yet to be beaten in any game IMO.

Human Revolution to me felt like a small slice of what Deus Ex was all about. The filter and only having two hubs and lack of a memorable story with little in the way of tough choices made it only an average game in my mind.

 

[smashism]

should i try to hammer out a hr playthrough before release? would a good youtube recap scoot me by with the story?

 

[Mifec]

should i try to hammer out a hr playthrough before release? would a good youtube recap scoot me by with the story?

The game has a VERY long recap if you don't feel like playing.