MarcoZombieCannon
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Yeah, it's definitely an issue with dialogue. With my XL on max volume I miss out a lot of lines that are spoken even slightly below a regular speaking voice. Headphones are the way to go here.
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Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers |OT| New World Order, Old World Chaos
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ActStriker
Member
Finished the warehouse while on lockdown today. Really digging it
TurnipFritters
Member
kinda. twenty coins (300 D Soul) is how much you need to use for each evolution, but: you can only evolve it once a day and you can only generate ten coins a day on your 3DS.
oh yeah you can get 200 D Soul just from reading the tutorial on the nemechi menu, so do that.
exmachina64
Banned
I saw that message, but the first person mode in Soul Hackers and Strange Journey is disorienting to me, to a degree. I saw them on the map, of course.
So I guess i'm still early on, but...
Should I always be walking around with a full party? It kinda feels like a huge waste of mag to keep them out so i've just been running with one demon so far, unless there's a boss coming up.
Same thing goes for keeping demons. Is it better to keep ones you want to use away and stored or is there some way to prevent them from leaving? Same goes with their affinity in/out of battle when it comes to obeying commands. I've been chewing through demons.
I'm loving the world, setting, and characters so far though. It's so full of life and really gets my imagination going. Not to mention it's just so cooooooooool.
Should I always be walking around with a full party? It kinda feels like a huge waste of mag to keep them out so i've just been running with one demon so far, unless there's a boss coming up.
Same thing goes for keeping demons. Is it better to keep ones you want to use away and stored or is there some way to prevent them from leaving? Same goes with their affinity in/out of battle when it comes to obeying commands. I've been chewing through demons.
I'm loving the world, setting, and characters so far though. It's so full of life and really gets my imagination going. Not to mention it's just so cooooooooool.
Max their loyalty to prevent them from leaving. Buy the sake from the liquor store that temporarily sets demon personality to kind and guard in battle until it's maxed, then you'll have no problems. As for the full party, honestly, MAG is not that big of a deal. Fight every battle you enter, and negotiate sometimes to get MAG. There's usually at least one demon in each dungeon that will give MAG if you follow a specific conversation path (same for yen, actually). That said, if the demon is in the back row and can't do much but cast magic and you want to conserve MP, there's certainly no reason to keep them summoned. No EXP gain means demons who aren't contributing can sit out with no penalties.
Ah that makes sense. I guess I was under the wrong impression with the sake too. Even though the personality change is only temporary, I didn't know it helps build it up in the long term too.
I've been negotiating with similar demons to the ones I have in my party and noticed they are all "Oh hey, my friend is with you. Take some MAG or Money." The one i'm in now is the Mokoi who gives me MAG.
And this may be a dumb question... but am I right in that you can't level demons, only fuse to get them higher-leveled? I checked all the status screens and stuff and see no indication, so I figured I should spend more time on fusion.
TurnipFritters
Member
You are correct. You cannot raise a demon's level. However, you can fuse them with special demons (much later in the game) called Mitama to raise their stats, up to double their base stats. It's... generally not worth for most demons because it because it's expensive and time consuming and the result doesn't make a huge difference.
Oooo, thanks! I think this system is pretty neat too now, especially because it encourages fusion more.
I just entered this building full of low-level demons in packs of 6+ per fight, and you get a battle in like 2-3 steps. Is this a sidequest or something? Im trying to access the bypass area people are talking about, but nothing triggers on my game. Oh well, Im raking in Magnetite anyway right now.
TurnipFritters
Member
I think you're at the Sea Ark. You need to go to Yurashima and check the toll booth at the top of the map.
No, this is not Sea Ark. Its Primate Intelligence Lab. Just entered it randomly since I don't remember it being open before, or what triggered it to open at the first place.
TurnipFritters
Member
Oh yeah, that's a totally different side quest.
bishopcruz
Member
IS it just street passing at all, or with people who have soul hackers?
TurnipFritters
Member
Uuuurgh I can't get Nemechi to add the final demon on the boy path? I've got up to
but
won't show up. Do I just have to keep buying D Souls or what?
Mada
Izanami
I don't think it's actually streetpassing. I haven't met anybody with the game. I think it's most likely that the NA version counts exchanging play coins as street passing, since that's something that wasn't in the JP one.
buddha0991
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ohlawd
TurnipFritters
Member
Nevermind, I got it.
buddha0991
Member
Turnip what does the final Male Nemechi look like? Also,
what does this game's Izanami look like? P2 Izanami, P4 Izanami, that one Nocturne Izanami the scrapped SMT NINE Izanami??
TurnipFritters
Member
It's the one that evolves from the Octopus. It has spikey hair and angel wings. Izanami is the NINE version, the one with all the ropes
Crazypanda_85
Member
I really want to buy this game but I'm not a fan of first person dungeon crawlers. The story seems cool (even for a 15 yr old game) and I'm a fan of Atlus and Persona 4. Thoughts? Am I working myself too much over the first person portion?
almostheathen
Member
My copy came today and I already put two and a half hours in, enjoying it quite a bit.
You definitely are.
Not like 1st person dungeon crawlers were ever popular to begin with so iunno why some peeps are averse to them.
Crazypanda_85
Member
I didn't mean to say it as if they were. I just prefer third person views, that's all.
I'm glad that it seems that I am overthinking it.
IMO, here's what you should do. Download the Etrian Odyssey 4 demo. Ignore that game's music/story/setting (OK, don't ignore the music lol) and just focus on the gameplay. Play it for a bit and see if you warm up to first person exploration and combat.
I avoided Strange Journey for a while because it was first person but I ended up getting it and the first person gameplay ended up not bothering me (and I enjoyed it). YMMV but these types of games you have to try yourself first before judging.
cj_iwakura
Member
Finished the art museum while at the airport. Phew.
Juggler's voice is amazing.
Boy did they make the
a joke with all that automap.
Well, could also be because I understood the NPC dialogue this time too.
I went through it blind originally.
Shidoshi, were you talking about the
as the stereotypical example? Yeah, that was the guy I was talking about in the podcast. Maybe the voice carries across the stereotype.
Also, this is really the most core SMT localized game we've ever gotten. Kuzunohas, occult societies, Key of Solomon all up ins, male/female protagonist, it's pure bliss.
How much does Soul Hackers tie into vanilla DS?
Juggler's voice is amazing.
Boy did they make the
Strange Area Portrait
Well, could also be because I understood the NPC dialogue this time too.
I went through it blind originally.
Shidoshi, were you talking about the
EL-115 DJs
Also, this is really the most core SMT localized game we've ever gotten. Kuzunohas, occult societies, Key of Solomon all up ins, male/female protagonist, it's pure bliss.
Kyouji's voice is... interesting. Like the character already.
How much does Soul Hackers tie into vanilla DS?
you know, I played w/o voices and I don't regret it. at least for the first playthrough, the voices ruined the OST
i'll prob switch em on for the 2nd playthrough
and why the fuck isn't the new OP song on the arrange OST? damn corps!
SatelliteOfLove
Member
OH GOD. There is such a strong sense of time in this game. It really is a mid-90s touchstone. "Netiquette", VR interfaces, the works. So good.
Battles are damn fast. I actually set it to Slow so I could read what the demons thought of my orders plus keep up with the results.
Turned off VA.
Battles are damn fast. I actually set it to Slow so I could read what the demons thought of my orders plus keep up with the results.
Turned off VA.
Now I realize why Paradigm X's music sounds so familiar...it sounds exactly like Wii Sports music. Seriously.
Also I think the VA is great. Yuri Lowenthal as that one (incredibly minor) security guard sounded so off though. Laura Bailey sounds so different in her Hitomi voice. I'm so much more used to her Nemissa voice.
Also I think the VA is great. Yuri Lowenthal as that one (incredibly minor) security guard sounded so off though. Laura Bailey sounds so different in her Hitomi voice. I'm so much more used to her Nemissa voice.
onlyindreams
Banned
Nemissa is just Rise pretty much. I love it.
I just go to an easy area and kill demons for Magnetite and sell it to that one guy.
Hitomi's voice is actually Cassandra Morris, I'm pretty sure. She voices Kyubey in the Madoka dub and uses the same exact tone.
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
I think Laura Bailey voices both. In the earlier parts of the game especially, her Kid Trunks voice comes through a lot. (Less raspy of course.)
Hmm, maybe. I actually haven't seen the new dub of DBZ, so I can't really tell. Either way the voice is good, though. I'm pleased with how the dubbing went for this.
If you beat the 2nd or 3rd dungeon (not including Vision Quests), you can talk to this guy in the Bathhouse Forum.
Then you go to the area he tells you to and just keep exiting after the 1st area.
Sell your Mag for big bucks.
It's not hard as long as you keep on top of fusing new demons as you level up. Since demons don't gain exp in this, they will become irrelevant pretty quickly. There's also a variety of "hacks" you can use, like adjusting difficulty on the fly, auto-map, and the ability to see enemy weaknesses.