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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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DF: Chrono Cross Remaster: PS5/Switch Tested - A Classic Returns... With Worse Performance Than PS1
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
* First time Chrono Cross has received an official release in EU.
* "Not really a remaster .. more like a 'touch up"
* Original team did not work on this, some of them only contributed to this, including Mitsuda for the OST.
* In game OST is 1 : 1 the same as PS1, only the main menu has a new orchestral track and redrawn art.
* Has Classic backgrounds mode and 'remastered' mode. Original is exactly the same as PS1.
* Remastered mode: Backgrounds are AI Upscaled but to mediocre results, the AI upscaler doesn't handle dithering properly.
* Remastered mode adds what looks like artifacting and rippling effects on the sky etc. The AI is not trained well.
* DF notes there are fan community mods for projects like this that have better results. Results could have been better here.
* FFIX Moguri mod is noted as one of the best fan projects.
* Classic mode is just raw 240p images, which appears incredibly pixelated on high resolution displays.
* In classic mode all 3D elements (battle arenas and models) render at 936p and it's a jarring inconsistency with the 240p backgrounds.
* Remastered 3D elements also run the same resolution for 3D stuff with 1080p HUD (tested PS4 and Switch)
* Battle text gets lower resolution in Original mode.
* The Scars of Time opening CG FMV has been improved with a much better AI upscaling than what was used for the game backgrounds. It looks pretty good now.
* The FMVs in the game itself don't have any such upscaling. They are presented in original resolution.
* The audio behind the CG FMV's is also very low quality and compressed.
* In game music is a little bit more clearer than before, possibly running at a higher bitrate
* "WITHOUT A DOUBT, ONE OF THE WORST PERFORMING GAME ON PS4"
* 30 FPS during traversal. 60 FPS menus. 30 FPS battles.
* Traversal drops frame rate frequently and in battle it can drop to 10 FPS on PS4.
* PS4 version running on PS5 runs worse than original PS1 version across almost all tested areas with hard caps to 20 FPS in many areas.
* Changing to "Classic" visuals improves performance and it runs about the same as PS1
* Switch version runs more or less the same as PS4.
* Notable stutter at the end of each battle victory animation
* Switch version running in handheld mode reduces some performance dips and makes the blending/artifacting issues less of an issue.
* "Not really a remaster .. more like a 'touch up"
* Original team did not work on this, some of them only contributed to this, including Mitsuda for the OST.
* In game OST is 1 : 1 the same as PS1, only the main menu has a new orchestral track and redrawn art.
* Has Classic backgrounds mode and 'remastered' mode. Original is exactly the same as PS1.
* Remastered mode: Backgrounds are AI Upscaled but to mediocre results, the AI upscaler doesn't handle dithering properly.
* Remastered mode adds what looks like artifacting and rippling effects on the sky etc. The AI is not trained well.
* DF notes there are fan community mods for projects like this that have better results. Results could have been better here.
* FFIX Moguri mod is noted as one of the best fan projects.
* Classic mode is just raw 240p images, which appears incredibly pixelated on high resolution displays.
* In classic mode all 3D elements (battle arenas and models) render at 936p and it's a jarring inconsistency with the 240p backgrounds.
* Remastered 3D elements also run the same resolution for 3D stuff with 1080p HUD (tested PS4 and Switch)
* Battle text gets lower resolution in Original mode.
* The Scars of Time opening CG FMV has been improved with a much better AI upscaling than what was used for the game backgrounds. It looks pretty good now.
* The FMVs in the game itself don't have any such upscaling. They are presented in original resolution.
* The audio behind the CG FMV's is also very low quality and compressed.
* In game music is a little bit more clearer than before, possibly running at a higher bitrate
* "WITHOUT A DOUBT, ONE OF THE WORST PERFORMING GAME ON PS4"
* 30 FPS during traversal. 60 FPS menus. 30 FPS battles.
* Traversal drops frame rate frequently and in battle it can drop to 10 FPS on PS4.
* PS4 version running on PS5 runs worse than original PS1 version across almost all tested areas with hard caps to 20 FPS in many areas.
* Changing to "Classic" visuals improves performance and it runs about the same as PS1
* Switch version runs more or less the same as PS4.
* Notable stutter at the end of each battle victory animation
* Switch version running in handheld mode reduces some performance dips and makes the blending/artifacting issues less of an issue.
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Werewolf Jones
Member
So are they gonna fix this or...?
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Imru’ al-Qays
Member
Dude Square is fucking hilarious
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
wtf is going on over there in japan tech wise?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
TWELVE FRAMES PER SECOND
ON A PS1 "REMASTER"
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Torrent of Pork
Banned
Oh wow, Square doesn't give a fuck about their Eastern development either.
Patrick S.
Banned
Fucking inept Japanese devs.
ÆMNE22A!C
NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
I didn’t know they had a classic mode. I may get it just for that. On Xbox ..
I don't like upgraded visuals in these poorly done "remasters" either. Never played this on so might bite on Series S.
Kilau
Member
Looks like some lazy AI upscaling on the art there.
Patrick S.
Banned
I really wanted to play this, but I'm not paying one single Euro for this shit. Sadly I sold my US import PS1 copy a few years ago.
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Chukhopops
Member
Well on the bright side, they didn’t fuck up the story this time.
MasterCornholio
Member
Pretty sure the PS5 can do much better than this. No idea how they screwed up the performance so badly.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
I can only imagine the effort they will put into the Xenogears remaster.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The 4-5-6 Pixel remasters are fantastic though.
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stranno
Member
Well, I don't think that compensate things like the previous Final Fantasy VI or Chrono Trigger, which are among the worst remasters ever seen in any company. This Chrono Cross AI disaster looks like a masterpiece compared to the VI Remaster/Mobile design.
The only worse remaster I can think of was Transport Tycoon for Android/iOS. That was another level of crappiness.
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Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
I am glad I waited after all. Reviews had me convinced to buy but performance seems to be a nightmare. I'll be playing through Chrono Trigger instead. Hopefully this gets fixed before then.
Captain Toad
Banned
I don't know. I think a few more terraflops were needed here.
Captain Toad
Banned
Don't hold your breath. I imagine Chrono 3 will release before they fix this.
Honey Bunny
Member
First thing I noticed too. It's very off putting.
fart town usa
Member
SkylineRKR
Member
I think only PS6 can do this game justice.
NoLootBoxDev
Member
Square Enix
Also Square Enix
Also Square Enix
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
Wtf?!
DarkMage619
$MSFT
Is there any information about the performance on Xbox?
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GHG
Member
Gavin Stevens and Louise Kirby.
Airbus Jr
Banned
More like lazziness
Another legendary ip fckd up ( after gta san andreas)
Please just let bluepoint studio handle these
These people are doing such a huge diservice to fans
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lughnasadh123
Member
That's a lotta oooo in that oof.
MasterCornholio
Member
Probably similar to this.
SmokSmog
Member
Wait for PS5 Pro to hit 30FPS