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[windz]

Can she be my girlfriend too? :'(

=( awww, no sorry, but if things don't go well.......sure! I wouldn't hold your breath tho!

I plan to play as Wiz first, barb second. Likely demon hunter third, monk 4th, witch doctor last, only because it's the class that interests me the least. I could very well be surprised though .

 

[Hazaro]

I have to wait 49 minutes to log in to Battle Net? What is this shit.

Servers were shutting down at around 2:00 PST for some reason.

 

[ParityBit]

Do they wipe characters every new patch?

 

[Hazaro]

Do they wipe characters every new patch?

No, but usually.

 

[eudaemonic]

*sobs*

I keep getting the 24000 error. I can't even start a new character - whole thing freezes up. Why did this have to happen on my second day in the beta? Would have rather it happened on the first day when I didn't get a taste of it yet.

 

[ToyMachine228]

Downloaded the beta, it was ready to play, but not complete. Had to close it to check a few websites, now when I try to open it again it just seems to be stuck on "Updating setup files" or whatever. Any idea what's going on or why it's taking so long?

 

[Voidguts]

/flex

I seriously love this game. I was afraid playing the beta so much would burn me out before release.. it has actually done the opposite - I want the full game even more than I did before.

 

[MrKnives]

Downloaded the beta, it was ready to play, but not complete. Had to close it to check a few websites, now when I try to open it again it just seems to be stuck on "Updating setup files" or whatever. Any idea what's going on or why it's taking so long?

Thank fucking god I'm not alone. I have it stuck on "updating blizzard launcher" for like 2 days now.

 

[ToyMachine228]

Thank fucking god I'm not alone. I have it stuck on "updating blizzard launcher" for like 2 days now.

I just restarted my computer and it fixed it. Hopefully it works for you too.

 

[Danj]

I wish I knew what the trick was to getting into this thing. I've been checking battle.net and my email every day, I entered the Facebook thing as soon as I knew about it, I updated my computer specs on the beta page on battle.net, is there something I missed doing?

 

[ToyMachine228]

So on Thanksgiving, I installed the D3 beta. Played like half an hour. Today I sat down to play it and it suddenly says my graphics card isn't supported. I go to the list of unsupported graphics cards and mine IS NOT on it. So why isn't it supported? And after I already played it? So I updated my drivers for kicks...Still not supported. Any tips? Frustrated.

 

[Voidguts]

So on Thanksgiving, I installed the D3 beta. Played like half an hour. Today I sat down to play it and it suddenly says my graphics card isn't supported. I go to the list of unsupported graphics cards and mine IS NOT on it. So why isn't it supported? And after I already played it? So I updated my drivers for kicks...Still not supported. Any tips? Frustrated.

try pressing escape at the error message..

 

[Belgorim]

I have been wanting to finish the overachiever-thingy for a while now, but have been locked out of the beta due to the bug when using the auction hall, so have not been able to play for a while.

Waiting for a server reset, and when it comes I am not going to use the AH before finishing up the achievements, only have 2 left I believe... ressurecting people and doing the WD to 13. I might also have the cain-achievement in coop left.

 

[Fularu]

My Barbarian is lvl 12 so far, man I love this game so much, I just can't go back to Torchlight or TQ now

 

[Yoshichan]

A guy one-shots Skeleton King (fuck the Monk).

Also, preview of the Jeweler artisan and a complete list of all the existing gems + their stats!

http://www.diablofans.com/

Amesthyst - Helm

Chipped Amethyst - 5% Life
Flawed Amethyst - 6% Life
Amethyst - 7% Life
Flawless Amethyst - 8% Life
Perfect Amethyst - 9% Life
Radiant Amethyst - 10% Life
Square Amethyst - 11% Life
Flawless Square Amethyst - 12% Life
Perfect Square Amethyst - 13% Life
Radiant Square Amethyst - 14% Life
Star Amethyst - 15% Life
Flawless Star Amethyst - 16% Life
Perfect Star Amethyst - 17% Life
Radiant Star Amethyst - 18% Life


Amethyst - Other

Chipped Amethyst - +6 Vitality
Flawed Amethyst - +10 Vitality
Amethyst - +14 Vitality
Flawless Amethyst - +18 Vitality
Perfect Amethyst - +22 Vitality
Radiant Amethyst - +26 Vitality
Square Amethyst - +30 Vitality
Flawless Square Amethyst - +34 Vitality
Perfect Square Amethyst - +38 Vitality
Radiant Square Amethyst - +42 Vitality
Star Amethyst - +46 Vitality
Flawless Star Amethyst - +50 Vitality
Perfect Star Amethyst - +54 Vitality
Radiant Star Amethyst - +58 Vitality


Emerald - Helm

Chipped Emerald - 5% Better Chance of Finding Magical Items
Flawed Emerald - 7% Better Chance of Finding Magical Items
Emerald - 9% Better Chance of Finding Magical Items
Flawless Emerald - 11% Better Chance of Finding Magical Items
Perfect Emerald - 13% Better Chance of Finding Magical Items
Radiant Emerald - 15% Better Chance of Finding Magical Items
Square Emerald - 17% Better Chance of Finding Magical Items
Flawless Square Emerald - 19% Better Chance of Finding Magical Items
Perfect Square Emerald - 21% Better Chance of Finding Magical Items
Radiant Square Emerald - 23% Better Chance of Finding Magical Items
Star Emerald - 25% Better Chance of Finding Magical Items
Flawless Star Emerald - 27% Better Chance of Finding Magical Items
Perfect Star Emerald - 29% Better Chance of Finding Magical Items
Radiant Star Emerald - 31% Better Chance of Finding Magical Items


Emerald - Other

Chipped Emerald - +6 Precision
Flawed Emerald - +10 Precision
Emerald - +14 Precision
Flawless Emerald - +18 Precision
Perfect Emerald - +22 Precision
Radiant Emerald - +26 Precision
Square Emerald - +30 Precision
Flawless Square Emerald - +34 Precision
Perfect Square Emerald - +38 Precision
Radiant Square Emerald - +42 Precision
Star Emerald - +46 Precision
Flawless Star Emerald - +50 Precision
Perfect Star Emerald - +54 Precision
Radiant Star Emerald - +58 Precision


Ruby - Helm

Chipped Ruby - Increases experience reward per kill by 5%
Flawed Ruby - Increases experience reward per kill by 7%
Ruby - Increases experience reward per kill by 9%
Flawless Ruby - Increases experience reward per kill by 11%
Perfect Ruby - Increases experience reward per kill by 13%
Radiant Ruby - Increases experience reward per kill by 15%
Square Ruby - Increases experience reward per kill by 17%
Flawless Square Ruby - Increases experience reward per kill by 19%
Perfect Square Ruby - Increases experience reward per kill by 21%
Radiant Square Ruby - Increases experience reward per kill by 23%
Star Ruby - Increases experience reward per kill by 25%
Flawless Star Ruby - Increases experience reward per kill by 27%
Perfect Star Ruby - Increases experience reward per kill by 29%
Radiant Star Ruby - Increases experience reward per kill by 31%


Ruby - Other

Chipped Ruby - +6 Attack
Flawed Ruby - +10 Attack
Ruby - +14 Attack
Flawless Ruby - +18 Attack
Perfect Ruby - +22 Attack
Radiant Ruby - +26 Attack
Square Ruby - +30 Attack
Flawless Square Ruby - +34 Attack
Perfect Square Ruby - +38 Attack
Radiant Square Ruby - +42 Attack
Star Ruby - +46 Attack
Flawless Star Ruby - +50 Attack
Perfect Star Ruby - +54 Attack
Radiant Star Ruby - +58 Attack


Topaz - Helm

Chipped Topaz - 5% Gold From Monsters
Flawed Topaz - 7% Gold From Monsters
Topaz - 9% Gold From Monsters
Flawless Topaz - 11% Gold From Monsters
Perfect Topaz - 13% Gold From Monsters
Radiant Topaz - 15% Gold From Monsters
Square Topaz - 17% Gold From Monsters
Flawless Square Topaz - 19% Gold From Monsters
Perfect Square Topaz - 21% Gold From Monsters
Radiant Square Topaz - 23% Gold From Monsters
Star Topaz - 25% Gold From Monsters
Flawless Star Topaz - 27% Gold From Monsters
Perfect Star Topaz - 29% Gold From Monsters
Radiant Star Topaz - 31% Gold From Monsters


Topaz - Other

Chipped Topaz - +6 Defense
Flawed Topaz - +10 Defense
Topaz - +14 Defense
Flawless Topaz - +18 Defense
Perfect Topaz - +22 Defense
Radiant Topaz - +26 Defense
Square Topaz - +30 Defense
Flawless Square Topaz - +34 Defense
Perfect Square Topaz - +38 Defense
Radiant Square Topaz - +42 Defense
Star Topaz - +46 Defense
Flawless Star Topaz - +50 Defense
Perfect Star Topaz - +54 Defense
Radiant Star Topaz - +58 Defense

Damn @ experience boost gems... leveling alts will be sooooo fun and quick :lol

 

[Valnen]

Damn @ experience boost gems... leveling alts will be sooooo fun and quick :lol

Depends on if they add level requirements to them or not >.<.

 

[Yoshichan]

Depends on if they add level requirements to them or not >.<.

Completely true! Forgot about that...

 

[Doomsayer]

Anyone still play d2?

I've been playing on HCL lately because I'm getting hyped for d3.

 

[ToyMachine228]

Finished my first run through the beta today as a Demon Hunter. Finished at Level 10. Really enjoyed it. For my next run I think I'm going to give the Monk a try. Can't wait for the final game. I still need to get a desktop as I just bought a house and don't currently have a computer at my place that will run D3.

Also, as someone who didn't play Diablo or Diablo II extensively, what's the best way to get up on the lore? Are there books that tell the stories of Diablo and Diablo II? I know there are several Diablo books, but which ones should I pick up to best understand the universe and the previous events?

Edit: I also just discovered "The Book of Cain" that's coming out. Maybe that's something along the lines of what I'm looking for?

 

[Valnen]

Edit: I also just discovered "The Book of Cain" that's coming out. Maybe that's something along the lines of what I'm looking for?

Definitely. Diablo didn't exactly have a ton of story to begin with, and the universe hasn't really been fleshed out much. They plan on changing that with the Book of Cain and Diablo 3 itself. Some stuff from the older books is being retconned so you might not want to read too much into those.

I also suggest watching these videos. I thought they were pretty informative. It's in 2 parts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ghu8RzsWvs

Also watch the lore panel at Blizzcon if you're heavily interested and have time. Chris Metzen himself kind of explains some things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-OhWPVt4Pk

 

[Yoshichan]

Also watch the lore panel at Blizzcon if you're heavily interested and have time. Chris Metzen himself kind of explains some things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-OhWPVt4Pk

I wish Metzen would just shut the hell up already.

 

[Hazaro]

Wonder if Blizz will put in extra mf socket items.

 

[Valnen]

I wish Metzen would just shut the hell up already.

I'd rather he didn't. He's kind of important...

 

[ZombieSupaStar]

I'd rather he didn't. He's kind of important...

I dunno, I blame him for all the lore going fucking retarded in Blizzards latests games though.

 

[Yoshichan]

I'd rather he didn't. He's kind of important...

He should never touch anything lore-wise in my opinion. IIRC, he single-handedly managed to ruin the brilliance that was the lore in SC.

 

[Fularu]

One day in the beta and I get the timeout error then the 24000 message QQ

Hope they reset the servers soon

 

[Boken]

He should never touch anything lore-wise in my opinion. IIRC, he single-handedly managed to ruin the brilliance that was the lore in SC.

I will never forgive the SC2 storyline.

Also, for some reason I was under the impression there wouldnt be gear gems. All is well.

 

[Valnen]

I will never forgive the SC2 storyline.

What was wrong with it?

 

[njean777]

quick question will this game have 4 player co-op?

 

[Hazaro]

yes

 

[Raide]

Anyone still play d2?

I've been playing on HCL lately because I'm getting hyped for d3.

Utterly addicted to D2 again. Only just found out that you can start D2 and actually choose a lvl 33 character right away. You still have to do all the early quests but it means you get to try out some high end skills and running to Nightmare mode is really easy.

Tried out a Hurricane Druid. Its like being a monster hoover of death.

 

[Fallout-NL]

Finished my first run through the beta today as a Demon Hunter. Finished at Level 10. Really enjoyed it. For my next run I think I'm going to give the Monk a try. Can't wait for the final game. I still need to get a desktop as I just bought a house and don't currently have a computer at my place that will run D3.

Also, as someone who didn't play Diablo or Diablo II extensively, what's the best way to get up on the lore? Are there books that tell the stories of Diablo and Diablo II? I know there are several Diablo books, but which ones should I pick up to best understand the universe and the previous events?

Edit: I also just discovered "The Book of Cain" that's coming out. Maybe that's something along the lines of what I'm looking for?

You should try to find the Diablo 1 manual online somewhere. There were a lot of awesome bits and pieces of story in there. Hold on, maybe I can find it.


/edit: Here it is: http://diablowiki.net/Diablo_I_Manual

They've transcribed everything I think. Great read.



In other news, I'm still not in this beta, and it's tearing me apart.

 

[ToyMachine228]

Thanks for the lore links guys. Did some reading. You're right, it seems like the Diablo universe is surprisingly, not that fleshed out. Definitely keeping an eye on the Book of Cain and picking it up when it releases.

 

[MrKnives]

I find it amusing that I can summon a small shaman to turn all the big evil monsters into chickens while I spam frogs everywhere.

 

[Twinduct]

I get 178ms from au

Hmm .. I assume there's just an American server atm? I'm trying to figure out if I get 650-700ms latency with WoW, connecting to a European server, which was the closest at the time, will I suffer the same latency with the D3 server?

 

[FrontalMonk]

What was wrong with it?

I think the general consensus of WoL's story is that it was somewhat hamfisted in its delivery and had some of the main characters (predominantly Raynor) do an about face compared to their personalities and motivations in SC and BW. Raynor is the most egregious offender here, as he goes from "I'm going to kill you one way or another Kerrigan" in BW (after getting backstabbed for what must be the fifteenth time) to "I'm going to sacrifice everything to try and get my Sarah back" in SC2. The funny thing to me about the story is that the crew basically flat out tells Raynor that they think they're just fodder for his personal crusade to save Kerrigan, and then he manages to basically say that this isn't his goal, but it is, and everyone's like "ok, go team!" The lead up to the final missions just doesn't make much sense.

There's also the small matter of Zeratul's missions.

Spoiler

lol Tassadar and Overmind aren't really dead but are some sort of hybrid to warn Zeratul?

 

[raphier]

I think the general consensus of WoL's story is that it was somewhat hamfisted in its delivery and had some of the main characters (predominantly Raynor) do an about face compared to their personalities and motivations in SC and BW. Raynor is the most egregious offender here, as he goes from "I'm going to kill you one way or another Kerrigan" in BW (after getting backstabbed for what must be the fifteenth time) to "I'm going to sacrifice everything to try and get my Sarah back" in SC2. The funny thing to me about the story is that the crew basically flat out tells Raynor that they think they're just fodder for his personal crusade to save Kerrigan, and then he manages to basically say that this isn't his goal, but it is, and everyone's like "ok, go team!" The lead up to the final missions just doesn't make much sense.

There's also the small matter of Zeratul's missions.

Spoiler

lol Tassadar and Overmind aren't really dead but are some sort of hybrid to warn Zeratul?

It's like George Lucas was in charge of the script.

 

[Boken]

Snip

Well said. All the retcons, from raynor, to the overmind made me want to stab myself with the SC2 disc. The final outcome felt like another massive retcon as well. Here is the queen of blades. The menace of the universe, and somehow they've made her into a human. What? Why?

The scope of the missions was also very lacking. The Zerg are at their peak and raynor is helpin out some refugees.

 

[FrontalMonk]

It's like George Lucas was in charge of the script.

Aw, now that's just mean...don't bring Metzen down to _that_ level.

 

[raphier]

Aw, now that's just mean...don't bring Metzen down to _that_ level.

http://www.briankindregan.com/ this guy is the Lead Writer. He also worked on Mass Effect 2. Way too character oriented writer. Big scope needs different writers.

 

[Valnen]

Well said. All the retcons, from raynor, to the overmind made me want to stab myself with the SC2 disc. The final outcome felt like another massive retcon as well. Here is the queen of blades. The menace of the universe, and somehow they've made her into a human. What? Why?

The scope of the missions was also very lacking. The Zerg are at their peak and raynor is helpin out some refugees.

Story progression is not the same as retcons. I understand you don't like the direction the story went but I found nothing wrong with it and enjoyed it even.

 

[Yoshichan]

The original SC and Brood War had political engagements, amazing plot twists and characters that could've been in Oscar-worthy-movies (yes, I just said that).

SC2 had a guy that might as well have been the story of Arthas and his path to the Frozen Throne. It's a huge, cringe-worthy cliché (did Raynor really carry Kerrigan and walk towards the sunset at the end of the game?!) and it's such a downgrade when it comes to story-telling.

 

[Boken]

Story progression is not the same as retcons. I understand you don't like the direction the story went but I found nothing wrong with it and enjoyed it even.

I don't understand your point. I said "was also", indicating this is a seperate point. The development of the story was slow, and many missions were pointless to the overall story. Then suddenly everything came rushing to the fore and kerrigan was captured. The pacing was much worse compared to SC and SC:BW.

Anyway, this is offtopic.

Playing SWTOR today just made me wish Diablo3 was coming out sooner.

 

[Kalnos]

Story progression is not the same as retcons. I understand you don't like the direction the story went but I found nothing wrong with it and enjoyed it even.

It isn't even as simple as not liking the 'direction of the story', it was so much more than that. Forgotten characters (Fenix, etc), hilariously bad writing, retcons, the 'twist' with Tychus was revealed in the opening cinematic, a new 'common' enemy that everyone must band together to fight e.g. Warcraft, Kerrigan being reduced to a near damsel in distress, the only interesting new character dies.

Some choice dialog samples:

"Lets kick this revolution into overdrive!"

"That's a commander I can get behind"... because Raynor didn't have enough personality to make you understand that, you had to be told by some fodder Terran guy.

I really hope they have a better writer working on Diablo 3 because SC2 was pretty bad in all honesty. I'm not trying to say that SC1 had great and non-cheesy dialog/plot but it looks like Shakespeare next to SC2.

 

[FrontalMonk]

Story progression is not the same as retcons. I understand you don't like the direction the story went but I found nothing wrong with it and enjoyed it even.

I actually agree, but understand the negative consensus Re: WoL's story. I don't personally have a problem with the current story, but that's in large part because I didn't have huge expectations going into it. People don't stay with SC for the campaign, they stay for the multiplayer. All I hope for is a satisfying conclusion after Legacy of the Void.

dovetailing off Boken's post, I think it best to say "question asked, question answered" and keep SC2 plot discussion to its own thread. I've been distracting myself with other games to keep away from D3 news, but so far relatively unsuccessful. I still find myself looking for all kinds of datamined info, lol. Hopefully I get back down into skyrim and whatnot.

 

[Fallout-NL]

It isn't even as simple as not liking the 'direction of the story', it was so much more than that. Forgotten characters (Fenix, etc), hilariously bad writing, retcons, the 'twist' with Tychus was revealed in the opening cinematic, a new 'common' enemy that everyone must band together to fight e.g. Warcraft, Kerrigan being reduced to a near damsel in distress, the only interesting new character dies.

Some choice dialog samples:

"Lets kick this revolution into overdrive!"

"That's a commander I can get behind"... because Raynor didn't have enough personality to make you understand that, you had to be told by some fodder Terran guy.

I really hope they have a better writer working on Diablo 3 because SC2 was pretty bad in all honesty. I'm not trying to say that SC1 had great and non-cheesy dialog/plot but it looks like Shakespeare next to SC2.

Yes, SC2 was pretty bad in terms of writing.

 

[mik83kuu]

Sorry, wrong thread. Can someone link me to the Diablo 3 Beta thread?

 

[FrontalMonk]

Sorry, wrong thread. Can someone link me to the Diablo 3 Beta thread?

aye, sorry for the derail. Witch Doctor is awesome, Barb smashes things something awful, the rest are for later playthroughs.

 

[Yoshichan]

Sorry, wrong thread. Can someone link me to the Diablo 3 Beta thread?

Me and Hazaro started over with a monk + witch doctor combo. Went straight for skeleton king at level 1 :lol Was fun as heck.

 

[windz]

Played through as Wizard twice, and Demon Hunter, Barb, and Witch Doctor once. Will be doing Monk tonight.

I was really surprised with how fun witch doctor was. It was one of my lower "interest" classes going in but I think it's going to be my first alt when the game's released. Haunt + Grasp of the Dead = absolutely awesome. Zombie dogs are nice for keeping things in place/taking damage. Toads seemed a bit underwhelming and poison dart while nice, just doesn't look/feel as awesome as some of the other skills. Firebats works, but my playstyle (as WD anyway) suited Haunt + Grasp of the dead moreso.

Barbarian is great if you like smashing people in the face as bodies fly across the screen. Quite powerful with a nice 2 hander + Cleave. Frenzy is a lot of fun too, absolutely tore up the Skelly King. Feels like a really powerful class. (then again, every class seemed quite powerful).

As for the Wizard, I was quite surprised with how awesome spectral blade was once I had a nice damage weapon. Arcane orb is powerful but eats mana fast. Electrocute is also just sick in terms of damage/clearing groups. Played with magic missile a bit but it seemed underwhelming, but it's still decent. Shock Pulse pales in comparison to Electrocute. Will be playing this char first.

Demon Hunter is pretty entertaining to play when incorporating Evasive Fire/Vault and backflipping all over the screen. Bola shot is quite good once you get a good hand crossbow, as is chakram. Bola shot is nice cause you can fire multiple at a time and have it chain explode off the same or multiple mobs. I didn't think chakram would be as good as it was, but you can easily clear a room full of mobs by spamming it a little. The hatred cost of chakram seems low, but I approve . Rapid fire (shooting at 6times normal speed) feels like you're firing an automatic gun at the enemy - lol. It's pretty good though in terms of the "feel" and effectiveness of the skill but burns hatred quick.

Overall, it seems every class can hold their own/wreck face and I know I'll have every class to 60 at some point. Looking forward to trying Monk tonight. I watched my buddy beat the beta as Monk and he seemed to enjoy it quite a bit.