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Diablo III: Reaper of Souls |OT3| Tyrael Looted: {[El'druin]}
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Here's hoping they will add more characters to the game, as I'm fine with this format going forward.
Orochinagis
Member
I had to put Torment IV because Necro is one shot killing everything at the hardest normal difficulty
One of those guys killed D2 mage
One of those guys killed D2 mage
uncredited male
Member
Looks like it - there's a little rune icon over their head that gains marks as different curses are applied.
There's a small line from Tyreal as he's talking to another NPC in town about a Horadrim going to investigate something in Skovos (where the amazons are from) and never returning, so the plot thread is there if they wanna follow it.
I think he meant from different players?
if he meant different curses than yes, all 3 can stack (unlike D2 necro)
Sanctuary
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I hope Blizzard takes a really hard look at the Necromancer. The class feels like it was shipped with only the end game and having all of the set bonuses in mind. Which I suppose in the short term might not actually take too long, but for Seasonal character it's going to be painful initially. Especially because of how dull the class becomes without the set items.
It's fine while leveling up to Master until Act 5, and then just feels like it hits a wall. The biggest issue prior to sets is that the gameplay revolves around either spamming Mages (which isn't fun in any way at all), or Corpse Lance/Corpse Explosion (Lance feels way more consistent, even if it's somewhat slower on huge swarms. But you can use Nova for that), and against bosses or elites where you cannot generate corpses outside of the golem every 45s or Land of the Dead ever 120s, it's kind of tedious.
All of the classes get game changing effects with set items, but from level 30 up, the Necro seemed to be the most boring to play of the bunch. They can't have a passive army while actively using other skills, Mage spamming sucks, and the overreliance for corpses isn't too hot either. It's generally "fine", but on huge health bosses, or those that have phases that kick you out of Land of the Dead, it's annoying. The class feels like a random mix of Witch Doctor and Sorcererss, not being even half as good as either at their respective playstyles.
It's fine while leveling up to Master until Act 5, and then just feels like it hits a wall. The biggest issue prior to sets is that the gameplay revolves around either spamming Mages (which isn't fun in any way at all), or Corpse Lance/Corpse Explosion (Lance feels way more consistent, even if it's somewhat slower on huge swarms. But you can use Nova for that), and against bosses or elites where you cannot generate corpses outside of the golem every 45s or Land of the Dead ever 120s, it's kind of tedious.
All of the classes get game changing effects with set items, but from level 30 up, the Necro seemed to be the most boring to play of the bunch. They can't have a passive army while actively using other skills, Mage spamming sucks, and the overreliance for corpses isn't too hot either. It's generally "fine", but on huge health bosses, or those that have phases that kick you out of Land of the Dead, it's annoying. The class feels like a random mix of Witch Doctor and Sorcererss, not being even half as good as either at their respective playstyles.
Huh, never even heard that line before. Come to think of it, didn't people say that the Necromancer has some interactions that hint of a Diablo IV?
I think I found something good:
Holy hell that looks sweet. Necromancer is easily becoming my favorite class in this game.
except you DO have to actively use other skills while you have your passive army, that was intended and how he is different from the WD. Hell even the golem and the skellies have a active component in them. And you wouldnt even use Mages pre-set (and pre-ring even), its a awful skill by itself.
Bosses with no corpses is "fixed" with various corpse creating abilities like the golem rune that gives 8 corpses, or the revive run that makes minions turn back into corpses.
Your whole post reads like someone hasnt actually played a Necro, and instead just read about it and has a vague idea, no offense.
Cracklox
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Won't comment on how the class is cos I'm one of those dudes thats only read about it and not played it. But you don't see the bolded as a problem? Shit skill, that you basically HAVE to use as a part of a set if you want to get anywhere
But then, that ties in to the bigger problem of sets in D3 taking away any build diversity once you get to 60. Topic for another day I guess
edit - meant level 70. I'm playing too many arpgs
Freezasaurus
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Honestly, I'd rather they save all this stuff for Diablo IV. Unless they're going to make another RoS-style expansion or two for D3, which they won't.
sure, and also the way the end game is completely set dependant, but thats another issue altogether like you said. And not specific to the Necro.
edit: ooh cleared 68
My luck is strange. On one hand, i've gotten three Primal Ancients over three days (Trang'Oul shoulders, Reaper Wraps, and Nutcracker). On the other hand, i've gotten 3 pieces of three or four different sets but not one piece more. Makes GR progression somewhat difficult.
Still, now that i switched to poison-based Corpse Explosion build with those Inarius pieces i have (along with Trang'Oul because i need to fill slots somehow), i seem to be making some progress.
Land of the Dead plus Corpse Explosion is kinda hilarious. Shame there's a cap for how fast CE can be used in LotD, though the cap is high enough pressing a key fast enough is tiring, i think.
Wish i could fit the Furnace or Bane of the Stricken into the build though, bosses take forever as it is, even with a lot of explosions.
Still, now that i switched to poison-based Corpse Explosion build with those Inarius pieces i have (along with Trang'Oul because i need to fill slots somehow), i seem to be making some progress.
Land of the Dead plus Corpse Explosion is kinda hilarious. Shame there's a cap for how fast CE can be used in LotD, though the cap is high enough pressing a key fast enough is tiring, i think.
Wish i could fit the Furnace or Bane of the Stricken into the build though, bosses take forever as it is, even with a lot of explosions.
As I mentioned before I was a bit saddened they added the Necro to D3 because I felt like they would've saved it for D4. Because what else would they put there? It's hard to imagine what D4 would be like except a D4 with more story, new maps, better graphics, and possibly a couple of "new" (D2) classes. But we'll see.. some people wanted an open world D4 but lol. There's already WoW. :v to
I wouldn't mind a different D4, but I don't see what they'd even put there.
But honestly whatever they make it to be or not I'm gonna throw my money at them like always.
Sanctuary
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You misread what I said. You don't actually have a passive army in this game at all. You have seven Skeletons, one Golem and that's it for the so called army. Everything else is spammed, or on a large cooldown with a small duration. You're spamming your army, you don't have one up while using other skills. I don't know why you bothered to tell me about how to generate corpses on bosses either, since I already said that myself.
And yeah, my post reads like I haven't played a Necro says the person running around with a Druid hurricane...
Why did you even bother replying when my entire point was about the class before sets anyway?
I dont even know what you mean by running around with a druid hurricane, and I said "it reads like", I was very careful to not say "clearly you havent played the necro" but hey, let's just nip this in the bud right here because I really dont feel like getting into a argument. My bad on before, you do you dude.
Completing Season Journeys? Sure thing!
Getting into GR80+? You bet!
Buying things online? HOW DO I PAID MONEY
For real though, glad you made it. You up for some games early afternoon?
Playing this build right now and necromancer is damn versatile i have already 3 different builds what i tried.
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/91149-army-of-the-storm-gr-90
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/91149-army-of-the-storm-gr-90
He improves drastically with the proper gear!Got all excited about my Necro, got him to 70 and started the grind but I find myself just going back to my WD
Cracklox
Member
I could see them following a similar design to something like marvel heroes. Diablo style gameplay with a few MMO trimmings like hubs and open areas where there's lots of people roaming around, and then instanced dungeons for parties. Unlike that game, I hope they don't run a good idea into the ground though
they're not gonna have a new class catered to beginners 7 years after the game comes out.
yeah inarius is weird because it seems TOO versatile, like I bet you can do a better pet build with it than with rath which is just, well, wrong
I feel horrible for saying this, especially as a WoW veteran, but I honestly think raiding and dungeons would've been awesome. More focuses on bosses, stuff like boss-specific loot and uber/boss challenges would be cool.
I mean, its just very expensive and you only pop one at a time, thats the issue. I used corpse explosion while lvling because its fun as shit.
I liked using Death Nova a lot before I finished a set, especially the one that increases in size.
Rhykker made a good post on Reddit why Skeleton Mages are bad design.
Probably a really stupid question, but I haven't played in a while.
If i equip the Necro with a 4k dmg axe, am I doing 4k dmg everytime I use my left click action? Or does the dmg not matter since i'm not actually swinging the axe, and its entirely based off my intelligence instead?
If i equip the Necro with a 4k dmg axe, am I doing 4k dmg everytime I use my left click action? Or does the dmg not matter since i'm not actually swinging the axe, and its entirely based off my intelligence instead?
Stevey
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It's DPS, so if it's 4K DPS but 1.4 APS, its 5.6K per click, if you're clicking as fast as possible, plus your various damage increases through skills and stats.
Thanks, thats what I figured. Wasn't sure though if it was different for a necro since he's doing range dmg. Only played crusader and monk before.
You mean this one?
Pro-tip: If you already have a lvl 70 charachter make sure to get Gem of ease(lvl 25 to put into a lvl 70 anchient 2-handed weapon), if you want to level all other non-season charachters fast to lvl 70. Also craft a hellfire ring(45% xp gain) and hellfire amulet, you can put them on your lvl 1 charachter as there are no lvl requirement. Start at torment 6 and you can lvl your charachter from lvl 1 to about lvl 45 in 5 minutes. Go back to town put on a helmet with a socket and put in a royal flawles ruby (41% xp gain). Don´t forget to use the other gems you have and put them into you jewelry. Lower to torment 4 or 3(or lower if you can´t survive) and get masacre bonus(for extra xp) at fields of misery and weeping hollow. I got to lvl 70 in about 40 minutes and I forgot to use my paragon points and kanais cube.
Dreams-Visions
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diablofans.com
uncredited male
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So bone ringer is basically a supercharged BotS for the skeletons possibly putting Necro in the meta as the RG killer.
Sanctuary
Member
That's nice, and not what I asked for in any way. How many of you started the Necro without using all of the previous gear you had from the season as well as your huge surplus of Paragon points? I wanted to see how the class felt essentially starting from scratch, since that's what we'll be doing once the new season starts. Although I don't know how to get around the vendors already being maxed out unless I delete all of my current characters, but I didn't really use them anyway aside from one level.
Anyway, I gave up, because it was so fucking tedious and just started using my previously broken gear to start out in the rifts, and it was pretty smooth sailing until GR30 with only two set items. The Moribund Gauntlets also solve a lot of corpse issues, but you can't use them with any six piece bonus.
Regardless, my opinion hasn't changed at all. The progression feels all over the map, and the skills either feel schizophrenic or not meant to be used in conjunction with one another; if at all at 70 or before set items. The only other time the game felt like this much of a chore to play was in the very beginning at launch.
I want to make this Pestilence build work. Feedback is appreciated.
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/91105-pestilence-set-tx-speed-farm-one-shot-bone-spear
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/91105-pestilence-set-tx-speed-farm-one-shot-bone-spear
level one, get to know it, then take a break until seaso, its what i'm doing tbh.
Caved in and bought the Necro pack.
Gotta say, playing the Necro is pretty fun stuff. Really love how some of the spells/abilities work and all that.
Corpse Explosion is goddamn amazing.
Given the bugs that have cropped up/persisted from PTR, it's better they didn't do it.
Plus, it gives people time to play and experiment with stuff before the Season starts.
That's what I plan on doing probably. Play it for a week or two and then chill until the next Season starts up again.
Gotta say, playing the Necro is pretty fun stuff. Really love how some of the spells/abilities work and all that.
Corpse Explosion is goddamn amazing.
Given the bugs that have cropped up/persisted from PTR, it's better they didn't do it.
Plus, it gives people time to play and experiment with stuff before the Season starts.
That's what I plan on doing probably. Play it for a week or two and then chill until the next Season starts up again.
ToyMachine228
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Where do I find the blacksmithing plans for Necromancer armor?
Freezasaurus
Member
Mine is at 63 right now. I had to start from scratch since I don't have my old PS3 save anymore. I really dig the Necro, but I may end up playing a Crusader for the Season. We'll see.
Human Trashcan
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Not sure what you mean. You can't craft class-specific sets.
ToyMachine228
Member
That's news to me. Thank you. Any suggestions for what I can and should craft for my Necromancer?
I've been progressing as this build recently (as necro)
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/91081-bone-storm-meta-gr-100
It's super stable and 'risk free'.
But tonight i found this
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/91398-rathma-faceroll-summoner-95
Which is stupid fun. It's not stronger than BoneStorm, but it's not a snore either.
He recommends running most on autoattack (numlock thing), But i found it to be hilarious to play without. I call it the "i'm all hopped up on adderall"-build. My recommendation is just press everything. All at once, All the time. As much as you can.
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/91081-bone-storm-meta-gr-100
It's super stable and 'risk free'.
But tonight i found this
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/91398-rathma-faceroll-summoner-95
Which is stupid fun. It's not stronger than BoneStorm, but it's not a snore either.
He recommends running most on autoattack (numlock thing), But i found it to be hilarious to play without. I call it the "i'm all hopped up on adderall"-build. My recommendation is just press everything. All at once, All the time. As much as you can.
It's rare that crafted gear is any helpful. If you're leveling or gearing up from all yellow trash, probably some can be decent. I'd save the materials though and just leech some public GRifts for gear. There are loot sharing communities you can ask for help in.