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Did Kerry cheat during the debate?
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Alcibiades
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Yeah, he's "stupid".
What's the charge now?
his daddy and buddies paid off professors at Harvard/Yale?
What's the charge now?
his daddy and buddies paid off professors at Harvard/Yale?
Phoenix said:
Actually, people are saying that he didn't do it stealthily, look at the video it does "look like" he pulls something from his pocket and unfolds it. Note, I don't really think that Kerry cheated, but if you watch the video you can see that it looks like he's pulling something from his coat. Errr, that said, I think this is grasping at straws. What could he possibly have brought to the debate that would have given him a competitive advantage? Weren't the questions predetermined anyway?
shoplifter
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I find it hilarious that we're still arguing over this when Bush clearly does the same thing at the same time on the other side of the frame.
edit: even the (conservative) New York Post didn't say anything about Bush:
second edit: yes the (conservative) is only there to be an ass.
edit: even the (conservative) New York Post didn't say anything about Bush:
second edit: yes the (conservative) is only there to be an ass.
"do you even understand your post?"
Yes, and I stand by it. Just look how I'm being gang attacked by all these liberals.
Somone listed, what a few conservatives? This thread alone has 3x as many liberals.
"Today's word is IRONY."
Well should I call it branding? If people keep saying, "Oh typical..you must be this kind of person. Such and such people do such and such. bitch bitch bitch", that's a hasty generalization.
Yes, and I stand by it. Just look how I'm being gang attacked by all these liberals.
Somone listed, what a few conservatives? This thread alone has 3x as many liberals."Today's word is IRONY."
Well should I call it branding? If people keep saying, "Oh typical..you must be this kind of person. Such and such people do such and such. bitch bitch bitch", that's a hasty generalization.
Cerebral Palsy
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DJ_Tet said:
Lets see how Bush handled our country post-9/11.
1. Airport security is still horrible
2. border security is still horrible
3. Anti-terrorism funding for police forces in major cities is still horrible
4. Bush put spin on horrible intelligence (lied? i think so), and took the majority of our resources off of Afghanastan (the real "war on terror") to go bully Iraq.
5. Bin Laden is still free. Apparently Bush is no longer concerned with this.
6. The Taliban still controls a huge portion of Afghanistan
7. Terrorist have flooded into Iraq since our occupation. Killings many U.S. soldiers and Iraqi citizens in the process.
8. Though Bush claims the world is safer without Saddam, one look at the news says otherwise.
9. The U.S. had the world on our side after 9/11, and Bush has flushed that down the toilet.
10. Iraq is currently in a horrible state, and only looking to get worse, while Bush can't admit any mistakes. He constantly refers to Iraq's current state as being succesful.
11. Both Bush and Cheney have used fear tactics to garner votes. Vote right or we'll get hit with a bigger terrorist attack.
12. Cheney still lies to the American public insisting there were WMDs, when it is obvious there wasn't.
13. Don't get me started on non-war issues.
So, what else has Bush done since 9/11? he surely hasn't made good on 99% of his 2000 campaign promises.
Saint Cornelius said:
***Again, I'm not trying to come off as totally pro-Bush here, just trying to make an honest-to-goodness observation.***
I've seen a lot of the same kind of stuff from Kerry supporters. They'll stand behind anything he says so long as he isn't Bush.
There's big wackos on BOTH sides of the fence. Trasher is a rabid Bush supporter, and he's not the only one, and there's a bunch of people here who are rabid Kerry supporters.
It's just the way life is. Some people believe anything that's dished out to them. It's sad, really.
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I'm also basing this on personal experience. I've got a cousin who is so anti-republican that she'll breathe fire on anyone who utters the word. She goes into a frenzy at the very mention of ideas that are different than hers.
If I could, I'd get a video of her going nuts and post it here. The woman has fire in her eyes. Alas, she lives a few hours away, so I don't see her that often.
Bush DID come off like an idiot.
What I think needs to be seen is if he does again for the next two debates, or if it was somehow the design of the people aound him telling him not to talk too much.
These next two debates will be very interesting. They could very well sway my vote.
What I think needs to be seen is if he does again for the next two debates, or if it was somehow the design of the people aound him telling him not to talk too much.
These next two debates will be very interesting. They could very well sway my vote.
efralope said:
Man, if you honestly believe kids of rich (and powerful) legacy students can actually fail out of college, you've got another thing coming.
Ecrofirt said:
Then you better be prepared to vote for Kerry. The first debate's focus on foreign policy was, by all indicators and predictions, the debate Bush was supposed to own, the topic with which he was supposed to carry the most strength, and the one where he'd expose Kerry for being weak on terrorism.
Instead, he got his ass handed to him. The next two debates are going to be on domestic policy, issues that Bush is expected to do poorly with because, well, what record of success can he possibly defend?
efralope said:
He doesn't know what Tribal Sovereignty is.
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/sovereignty.mov
Oh and that laughter in the background at his answer is people laughing AT HIM not with him.
xsarien said:
I expect to laugh hilariously at certain parts during these domestic policy debates... and though I initially wasn't going to watch it I may actually check out the VP debate now...
Based on experience Cheney should win the debate... the thing is... who will care? VP debate.... and?
For some reason I can see Cheney sitting in a darkened room, with a single spotlight illuminating his face from above, his hands gripped in front of him as he evily twitches his fingers and he slowly, and disturbingly, utters the words . . . It is over for you, waaarm fleshbags . . .
OMG, I think I just frightened myself!
Banjo Tango
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Dood, Flip-Flop! Alex Keaton was a card-carrying member of the GOP!DarienA said:
Banjo Tango
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Don't think so.DarienA said:
holy fuck is that freerepublic link someone posted way back scary as shit.
'cheater!'
'OMG notes! cheater! he should be removed from the ballot!'
'____ is reporting it was a pen but NO WAY i see notes!'
'it might be a pen but that's still cheating and kerry should be disqualified!'
'no no no, it's definitely notes.. only Dems in the media think it's a pen'
'this is MUCH worse than watergate!'
'kerry will lose so much support because of this... i knew he had to be cheating to make it look like he won the debate even though we all said Bush won the debate until we found something else to fixate on'
Reading that thread made me feel dirty.
'cheater!'
'OMG notes! cheater! he should be removed from the ballot!'
'____ is reporting it was a pen but NO WAY i see notes!'
'it might be a pen but that's still cheating and kerry should be disqualified!'
'no no no, it's definitely notes.. only Dems in the media think it's a pen'
'this is MUCH worse than watergate!'
'kerry will lose so much support because of this... i knew he had to be cheating to make it look like he won the debate even though we all said Bush won the debate until we found something else to fixate on'
Reading that thread made me feel dirty.
I don't understand why people have a problem with stem cell research, I mean, it seems like it could be a source to cure a lot of diseases.
Plus, who would want to see poor MJF die of parkinsons?
What is funny about it is in the 80's MJF stared as Alex P. Keaton in the sitcom series Family Ties. The character he portrayed was a major conservative. Keaton would be a Bush supporter. MJF seems to be a Kerry supporter. I don't know where the hell I'm trying to go with this.
Then again, I'm just a washed up Back To The Future fan.
Plus, who would want to see poor MJF die of parkinsons?
What is funny about it is in the 80's MJF stared as Alex P. Keaton in the sitcom series Family Ties. The character he portrayed was a major conservative. Keaton would be a Bush supporter. MJF seems to be a Kerry supporter. I don't know where the hell I'm trying to go with this.
Then again, I'm just a washed up Back To The Future fan.
WHOAguitarninja
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Nerevar said:
Pretty much, I have yet to encounter someone who actually understands it that is opposed to it.
brooklyngooner
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calder said:Heh, if science could just create cells they'd be working on curing death, never mind avoiding the stem cell issue.
This just made me think of Kentucky Fried Movie, "Death is the leading killer..."
And the show often played on the differences between Carter ("gay black guy") and Mayor Winston and Mike. I think the administration in that show definitely leaned right, but was often shown caving in or accepting/understanding the wishes of the left.maharg said:
Note: I watched an episode of this show every weeknight for the entire summer. That's what happens when you get off work at midnight. Not that I minded, the show's hilarious.
JoshuaJSlone
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According to Lehrer, noone else had seen them.KingV said:
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teh_pwn said:"do you even understand your post?"
Yes, and I stand by it. Just look how I'm being gang attacked by all these liberals.
"Today's word is IRONY."
Well should I call it branding? If people keep saying, "Oh typical..you must be this kind of person. Such and such people do such and such. bitch bitch bitch", that's a hasty generalization.
Attacked? At least not me, all I am is examining your arguments.
I was merely trying to show how there are conservatives here on the forum, but apparently you want more evidence. OK, I'll add to the list of conservaties and maybe it will even out: gorgie, xenon, kobun heat, efralope, fusebox, haohmaru, zilch, snapty00, glennzilla69.
If your argument really stands, then the liberals would have a much harder time fighting the argument. On the other hand, don't say that Philipinos were interned with the Japanese... unless you have good evidence to back it up.
Ecrofirt said:
How much science education do you have?!?
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